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Post by CentreHice on Apr 4, 2014 20:58:13 GMT -5
Two games in row we overcome a 3-goal deficit....only at different times.
Dominant performance from our #1 line....
But our defense needs work.
I'm going to start to call Bouillon "Adventure Boy".
Wow.
Daigneault has work to do if we're to have any success in the show.
Slaw-P....
Good game from Budaj after the 0-3 start.
Love beating the Sens....any way, any time.
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Post by folatre on Apr 4, 2014 21:13:29 GMT -5
A fine, opportunistic recovery from a horrible start. Nice to see Big Max and his line full of confidence.
Bouillon needs to cheer for the team from the stands.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2014 21:45:30 GMT -5
A fine, opportunistic recovery from a horrible start. Nice to see Big Max and his line full of confidence. Bouillon needs to cheer for the team from the stands. 10 points for that line. They were dangerous all night. Nice to see smith become a church mouse after parros whispered in his ear.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 4, 2014 22:16:41 GMT -5
Boy Vanek changes everything. Funny how DD in his interview talked about Max's shot but Vanek's shot and playmaking. now if only we can get one of the other lines going. Pleks with the Gals doesn't seem to be working. But Pleks seems in a daze. Give them another r2 games but we need find another rscoring line before the playoffs.
so funny to see Smith be so tough with our small guys but wants no part of Parros. And then slashes Emelin. Meanwhile true to form Neil goes after our smaller skilled players, Pleks and BGal. What's with the refs stepping in before Parros annihilate Neil.
We're winning ugly. Have had a lot of bad calls go our way the last few weeks. That was a legit goal for Ott.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 4, 2014 22:18:23 GMT -5
I'll take the seven goals but I was actually hoping for nine. After the Sens disgraceful performance in last year's playoffs, they deserve a dose of humility ... like giving up two 3-goal leads to Montreal and missing the playoffs ...
Would like to see the Leafs out, too. I'm hoping Reimer helps that cause.
Like seeing young Tinordi take out Gryba the way he did. It's too bad we didn't have that capability to respond last year. We're going to need more of that in the Second Season.
Still hoping we can get that fourth line back for the playoffs.
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Apr 4, 2014 22:23:24 GMT -5
I wasn't able to see the game, but just watched the extended highlights on nhl.com. Two break away goals for Max. Nice moves on both. He's at what, 39 goals? Remarkable season of scoring. Vanek's play making has impressed me as much as anything. His size and skill both creates space for line mates and allows him to get the puck to them in space.
Good on Eller. No coincidence that some of his improvement of late is a result of playing center. Decisions need to be made there. This summer.
Getting Gorges back will help a lot.
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Post by blny on Apr 4, 2014 22:46:48 GMT -5
Watching some more highlights, loved that Tinordi stepped up and won a decision over Gryba. Gryba with a borderline hit on Briere and no hesitation from JT.
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Post by 24in93 on Apr 4, 2014 22:47:41 GMT -5
Before the game the RDS crew with Crete, Damphousse and Brunet were talking about how Pacioretty has 5 goals to score in the last 5 games to equal Damphousse's 40+ in 93-94. It seemed a little bit of a stretch but now he's easily within striking distance. What a performance. I hope he can pot those last two.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 4, 2014 23:09:46 GMT -5
I know the FINAL score is all that matters....but I'm sure BH will point out that the Corsi/Fenwick scores were vastly in Ottawa's favour.
I've read that this was the 4th most lopsided game so far this year, Corsi-wise (in the Sens' favour).
We can't count on a string of magic nights when most pucks go in the net for us.
In other words, the boys cannot expect this result vs. Bishop and the Bolts.
Sure...take the two points...but those metrics in the playoffs will have us shining up the golf clubs early.
Maybe the boys knew the game was in hand after it was 5-3....and eased up...inflating those figures....but that's not something a focussed team does.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2014 23:14:19 GMT -5
I know the FINAL score is all that matters....but I'm sure BH will point out that the Corsi/Fenwick scores were vastly in Ottawa's favour. I've read that this was the 4th most lopsided game so far this year, Corsi-wise (in the Sens' favour). We can't count on a string of magic nights when most pucks go in the net for us. In other words, the boys cannot expect this result vs. Bishop and the Bolts. Sure...take the two points...but those metrics in the playoffs will have us shining up the golf clubs early. Maybe the boys knew the game was in hand after it was 5-3....and eased up...inflating those figures....but that's not something a focussed team does. I agree ch but they just came back from vacation. The game against the wings will be a better indication of what they will be able to do imo
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 4, 2014 23:22:54 GMT -5
Not trying to rain on your "In Your Face Ottawa!" parade, WD... . But BH has been posting these metrics for a while now....and I think they're troubling. Budaj settled down tonight...and it's a good thing he did. Listening to the go-with-the-flow Tony Marinaro post-game for a bit...and he pulled out the gem: "The Canadiens are showing that they can play any type of game and win....and that's what good teams do."You watch....should these metrics catch up with us in the playoffs, he'll be the first one to forget/erase what he said tonight and start pointing fingers and looking at Corsi scores....with an "I knew it" tone running underneath.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2014 23:27:33 GMT -5
Listening to the go-with-the-flow Tony Marinaro post-game for a bit...and he pulled out the gem: "The Canadiens are showing that they can play any type of game and win....and that's what good teams do." You watch....should these metrics catch up with us in the playoffs, he'll be the first one to forget/erase what he said tonight and start pointing fingers and looking at Corsi scores....with an "I knew it" tone running underneath. I dont listen to him. I prefer habs breakfast and melnyk in the afternoon
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2014 23:33:34 GMT -5
Not trying to rain on your "In Your Face Ottawa!" parade, WD... . But BH has been posting these metrics for a while now....and I think they're troubling. Budaj settled down tonight...and it's a good thing he did. Listening to the go-with-the-flow Tony Marinaro post-game for a bit...and he pulled out the gem: "The Canadiens are showing that they can play any type of game and win....and that's what good teams do."You watch....should these metrics catch up with us in the playoffs, he'll be the first one to forget/erase what he said tonight and start pointing fingers and looking at Corsi scores....with an "I knew it" tone running underneath. No probs bud. I live in ottawa so I will have a very good sleep tonight. Franko and I had to put up with sens fans smugness last year. It was great to see the habs put 2 nails in their playoff coffin within a couple of weeks. I agree about the metrics. The number of opportunities the gave up are unacceptable and they'll lose to the bolts if they play the loosey goosey style of defense the did tonight. Way too many good chances given up. Budds played great after the 3rd goal.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 5, 2014 0:51:43 GMT -5
I know the FINAL score is all that matters....but I'm sure BH will point out that the Corsi/Fenwick scores were vastly in Ottawa's favour. I've read that this was the 4th most lopsided game so far this year, Corsi-wise (in the Sens' favour). We can't count on a string of magic nights when most pucks go in the net for us. In other words, the boys cannot expect this result vs. Bishop and the Bolts. Sure...take the two points...but those metrics in the playoffs will have us shining up the golf clubs early. Maybe the boys knew the game was in hand after it was 5-3....and eased up...inflating those figures....but that's not something a focussed team does. Hate to say it but the sens domination took place from the outset and was well in hand by the time we scored our 5th. No structure whatsoever! relied on goaltending and luck again. So MT is a good coach? And so was the Bug Eyed Fat Walrus last year. Tinordi played BIG!. In fact I'd say we would have been chased out of the rink had murray been dressed for this one. The guy brings it! will MT ever see it. Although he almost did an identical give away that cost us a few weeks ago. So how much coaching is he getting if they're not correcting his errors. I guess MT just benches them and lets them figure it out for themselves. And how about PK. Not feeling a lot of love. Gets benched for the first by the coach and then booed everytime he touches the puck the last 2 periods. Gotta give the guy credit for keeping his sprits. Most would crumble.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 5, 2014 8:04:13 GMT -5
Not trying to rain on your "In Your Face Ottawa!" parade, WD... . But BH has been posting these metrics for a while now....and I think they're troubling. Budaj settled down tonight...and it's a good thing he did. Listening to the go-with-the-flow Tony Marinaro post-game for a bit...and he pulled out the gem: "The Canadiens are showing that they can play any type of game and win....and that's what good teams do."You watch....should these metrics catch up with us in the playoffs, he'll be the first one to forget/erase what he said tonight and start pointing fingers and looking at Corsi scores....with an "I knew it" tone running underneath. No probs bud. I live in ottawa so I will have a very good sleep tonight. Franko and I had to put up with sens fans smugness last year. It was great to see the habs put 2 nails in their playoff coffin within a couple of weeks. I agree about the metrics. The number of opportunities the gave up are unacceptable and they'll lose to the bolts if they play the loosey goosey style of defense the did tonight. Way too many good chances given up. Budds played great after the 3rd goal. I know you and franko live in Ottawa....that's why I made the In Your Face Ottawa comment! These last two games against them must feel extra great!
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Post by Douper on Apr 5, 2014 8:32:58 GMT -5
Patches has 38 goals in 69 games...He's 3 goals shy of Perry who has played 77 for 2nd in the league. What a season by Max!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 8:33:55 GMT -5
I'll take the seven goals but I was actually hoping for nine. After the Sens disgraceful performance in last year's playoffs, they deserve a dose of humility ... like giving up two 3-goal leads to Montreal and missing the playoffs ... Would like to see the Leafs out, too. I'm hoping Reimer helps that cause. Like seeing young Tinordi take out Gryba the way he did. It's too bad we didn't have that capability to respond last year. We're going to need more of that in the Second Season. Still hoping we can get that fourth line back for the playoffs. Cheers. Recalling their liberties and other mind game tactics from last year's playoffs, seeing them have multiple meltdowns this year gives me a bit of schadenfreude. Not a good win by any means, but in recent weeks we've seen this team score their way out of trouble. That likely won't continue against a very tight and disciplined Tampa team, but you need to find some way to force offense against them.
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Post by franko on Apr 5, 2014 9:35:31 GMT -5
I know you and franko live in Ottawa....that's why I made the In Your Face Ottawa comment! These last two games against them must feel extra great! doesn't even start to describe the good feeling. almost as good as beating the Leafs.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 5, 2014 9:40:04 GMT -5
Also looks good on the Sens that they appear to have traded the wrong goalie....even though at the time, Anderson was on fire...and Lehner appeared to be next in line.
Just never know with goalies.
Bishop for Conacher and a 4th (don't know who that was). Now Conacher has been waived. So Bishop for basically nobody.
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Post by jkr on Apr 5, 2014 10:24:21 GMT -5
Listening to the CBC crew was like listening to a Sens broadcast. About the only thing I agreed on was when Galley ripped Therrien for Benching Subban.
After a while I just went back to RDS.
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Post by blny on Apr 5, 2014 10:32:00 GMT -5
Listening to the CBC crew was like listening to a Sens broadcast. About the only thing I agreed on was when Galley ripped Therrien for Benching Subban. After a while I just went back to RDS. It was Dean Brown doing the play call, he's a pretty big homer.
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Post by franko on Apr 5, 2014 11:04:47 GMT -5
Listening to the CBC crew was like listening to a Sens broadcast. About the only thing I agreed on was when Galley ripped Therrien for Benching Subban. After a while I just went back to RDS. It was Dean Brown doing the play call, he's a pretty big homer. yup. the radio boys were ripping the team [heard the last five minutes]. it was actually funny. I think it was after the Sens 4th goal Schreiber/Wilson were basically saying big deal. intimated may as well change the station, then backtracked. must have been an interesting post game show. interesting day on the call-ins. everyone has an opinion [gee, really?] -- no consensus. dump the coach, dump the GM, trade the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines, goalies, Spezza [of course -- he's always the problem here] . . . gotta keep Karlsson though -- but even he took some heat. life is good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 11:27:23 GMT -5
It was Dean Brown doing the play call, he's a pretty big homer. yup. the radio boys were ripping the team [heard the last five minutes]. it was actually funny. I think it was after the Sens 4th goal Schreiber/Wilson were basically saying big deal. intimated may as well change the station, then backtracked. must have been an interesting post game show. interesting day on the call-ins. everyone has an opinion [gee, really?] -- no consensus. dump the coach, dump the GM, trade the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines, goalies, Spezza [of course -- he's always the problem here] . . . gotta keep Karlsson though -- but even he took some heat. life is good. I wouldn't mind Spezza...
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 5, 2014 11:29:01 GMT -5
Listening to the CBC crew was like listening to a Sens broadcast. About the only thing I agreed on was when Galley ripped Therrien for Benching Subban. After a while I just went back to RDS. It was Dean Brown doing the play call, he's a pretty big homer. Dean "Winds and Fires" Brown.....'nuff said. CBC is more like ABC...Anybody But Canadiens.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 11:33:33 GMT -5
It was Dean Brown doing the play call, he's a pretty big homer. Dean "Winds and Fires" Brown.....'nuff said. CBC is more like ABC...Anybody But Canadiens. Man, I hope we get Jim Hughson. He at least can call a fairly good game, though we'll likely get Cole who can still make a great call if there's enough energy in the game.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 5, 2014 11:39:15 GMT -5
Dean "Winds and Fires" Brown.....'nuff said. CBC is more like ABC...Anybody But Canadiens. Man, I hope we get Jim Hughson. He at least can call a fairly good game, though we'll likely get Cole who can still make a great call if there's enough energy in the game. If the Leafs are out of it, Hughson should be good. He was excellent and unbiased back when he was calling the Canucks games, but after he went to TO, it seems the same afflication hit him as affects everyone who works out of there. If I was offered the job, I'd demand to commute...from some other city. Peterborough maybe.
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Post by franko on Apr 5, 2014 11:47:47 GMT -5
yup. the radio boys were ripping the team [heard the last five minutes]. it was actually funny. I think it was after the Sens 4th goal Schreiber/Wilson were basically saying big deal. intimated may as well change the station, then backtracked. must have been an interesting post game show. interesting day on the call-ins. everyone has an opinion [gee, really?] -- no consensus. dump the coach, dump the GM, trade the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines, goalies, Spezza [of course -- he's always the problem here] . . . gotta keep Karlsson though -- but even he took some heat. life is good. I wouldn't mind Spezza... he's been playing hurt. back and groin. and the term "defensive responsibility" isn't in his vocabulary. but give him the right linemates and he can score.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 5, 2014 11:48:14 GMT -5
I know you and franko live in Ottawa....that's why I made the In Your Face Ottawa comment! These last two games against them must feel extra great! doesn't even start to describe the good feeling. almost as good as beating the Leafs. I thought the Sens were toast before the season started. First, they lose Alfredsson. The Sens fans I've talked to really think just having Alfie around would have made a difference. Couldn't tell you one way or the other but now I'm hearing from the same guys that they want Spezza out. I don't know what they're basing it on ... maybe they just miss Alfredsson. Secondly, the hockey pundits had Ottawa as the number-2 seed just before the season started. Can't remember where the Habs were; out of the playoffs was it? Ottawa's main reason for a successful season last year was Anderson ... and wouldn't you know it ... Anderson comes down to earth, Lehner turns out to be a sivv and all of a sudden, they're behind the 8-ball playing catch-up for the whole season. "What goes around, comes around" = karma. And it couldn't have happened to a more deserving team. Cheers. PS I'm still really impressed with Tinordi. If he can keep that up ... also very happy for Weaver as well ... very fitting he potted one last night.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 5, 2014 12:03:03 GMT -5
Dean "Winds and Fires" Brown.....'nuff said. CBC is more like ABC...Anybody But Canadiens. Man, I hope we get Jim Hughson. He at least can call a fairly good game, though we'll likely get Cole who can still make a great call if there's enough energy in the game. I'll pass on Hughson. I just can't get used to his call. Can't stand Greg Millen. I remember him as the young, aspiring protege to Don Chevrier when the Sens first came back into the league. To this day I find he doesn't match up with his peers. Pierre McGuire has toned down quite a bit. I thought he was coming around at one point, but he seems to revert back into being a bit boorish and condescending. Dean Brown ... he's a good Ottawa Senators broadcaster. I'm going to take some flack for this but the most non-biased team I've heard on CBC this year has been Bob Cole and Garry Galley. I don't know how many Leaf games he calls, but Cole always seems to be handling the Montreal games. (wouldn't surprise me if he asked for that assignment based just on his seniority) These guys call a very good game. If Galley points out mistakes with Montreal I don't find him all that biased. He's actually on the mark the majority of the time. I also found that Cole has been calling a pretty good game over the last while; maybe this season and some of last season, too. Cheers.
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Post by franko on Apr 5, 2014 12:18:12 GMT -5
I thought the Sens were toast before the season started. First, they lose Alfredsson. The Sens fans I've talked to really think just having Alfie around would have made a difference. Couldn't tell you one way or the other but now I'm hearing from the same guys that they want Spezza out. I don't know what they're basing it on ... maybe they just miss Alfredsson. nah, there has been a hate-on for Spezza forever. well, maybe not forever, just since JM left. while he was coaching it was "he stifles Spezza's creativity". now its "Spezza can't do anything right". he's their forever whipping boy. I think the general consensus [iirc] was Boston, Detroit, Ottawa in, with Toronto, Montreal, and one of the Florida teams [TBay, probably] fighting for the 2 wild card spots, with the Habs definitely looking in from the outside. a little search shows . . . The Hockey News put the Habs in fourth place in the Atlantic Division in its preseason predictions, behind the first-place Bruins, followed by the Red Wings and Ottawa Senators. A fourth-place finish would mean the Habs would need to secure a wild card spot to make the playoffs.
USA Today hockey columnist Kevin Allen put the Habs in the No. 4 spot, behind the Bruins, Red Wings and Toronto Maple Leafs. But Allen also predicted the Senators at No. 5 “will be looking at the wild-card race all season” and project to be “third to fifth.”
A fifth-place finish for the Habs in the Atlantic Division was the consensus projection on TSN’s season preview show. Their consensus was that the Leafs, projected to finish in fourth place, would nab a wild card spot, with the Habs missing the playoffs.
The Gazette’s Pat Hickey predicted the Canadiens and Leafs will be in the hunt for the wild-card spots. I/O
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