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Post by 24in93 on Sept 3, 2014 14:13:02 GMT -5
I'm already looking into the best streaming options.
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Post by franko on Sept 3, 2014 16:00:19 GMT -5
from what I understand, if you have SN you can download their app and stream the games.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 3, 2014 16:07:04 GMT -5
It's not 9h30 in the morning yet and I have a headache trying to figure out all this..... But it doesn't look good for us Habs fans in the GTA I hear you, man ... unbelievable ... every day is a new combination ... I cancelled RDS for the summer ... do you have a good internet package? ... the major ISPs will compete to get your business ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 3, 2014 16:12:08 GMT -5
I'm already looking into the best streaming options. I've been with Bell Satellite for quite a while now and they have a promotion going on for unlimited bandwidth ... I was talking with them yesterday and they lowered my bill because of the longevity we have with them ... then she tells me that I can call back next year and expect whatever promotions they have ... bear in mind that satellite communications depend a lot on ionospheric conditions ... I've also had to use my golf ball retriever to scrape off ice and slush that builds up on the dish ... Cheers.
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Post by 24in93 on Sept 3, 2014 20:24:41 GMT -5
I have Bell Fibe now. It's very good. No satellite interruptions anymore. I'm not very tech savvy though so streaming will be a learning curve as I'd want it to play on my TV.
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Post by franko on Sept 3, 2014 21:18:00 GMT -5
I'm not very tech savvy though so streaming will be a learning curve as I'd want it to play on my TV. not a problem as long as your laptop has an HDMI out.
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Post by franko on Sept 3, 2014 21:30:12 GMT -5
snippets . . . Rogers announced NHL GameCentre Live — think of it as an online buffet for hockey (mobile phones, tablets or computers) — will carry 50% more content this season. More than 1,000 regular season games will be available, as well as the playoffs and the Stanley Cup final.
For anyone who already subscribes to Rogers for wireless data or Internet, it will be free until Dec. 31. For those who subscribe elsewhere, it will cost $199.99 for the full season, but Rogers Media president Keith Pelley said an early-bird discount of $20 would be available until the middle of next month.
The data used to stream those games will count toward your normal data limits.
Rogers is promising fewer blackouts, with a few catches . . . if (a) fan already subscribes to Rogers Sportsnet, they would be able to stream local games online . . . except Rogers does not own exclusive regional rights to every Canadian team, so the same would not apply to, say, fans in Toronto, where TSN still holds regional rights to the Maple Leafs. (Rogers would be able to lift the local regional blackouts for its 16 games.). TSN owns the regional rights in Winnipeg and Ottawa, meaning GameCentre blackouts would not be lifted for those in-market games.
murkier and murkier
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 4, 2014 0:17:17 GMT -5
So if one gets RDS out west do they still cover all the games?
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 6:01:08 GMT -5
So if one gets RDS out west do they still cover all the games? RDS is not broadcasting all of the games this year: here is the calendarand this is from an older articleThere aren’t too many Canadiens fans who are happy with the television schedule for the 2014-15 season.
Fans in Quebec and points east will be well-served with all 82 regular-season games available, but the days of one-stop viewing are over. There will be 22 national games, mostly on Saturday nights, on TVA Sports, while the remaining 60 games will be offered in a regional package on RDS.
But anglophones and francophones living west of Ottawa are not happy with the new order because they will not have access to the RDS package.
“We have a large number of subscribers in southern Ontario and in Western Canada and they won’t have access to our signal because we’re designated as a regional package,” said Domenic Vanelli, the vice-president of production for RDS. “For many French-Canadians, this will be the first time they won’t have access to Canadiens games in their own language because we offered the games, and before that they were available on Radio-Canada.”
Vanelli said disgruntled fans might create enough pressure on politicians and the rightsholders to effect a change in RDS’s availability, but he didn’t hold out much hope.
“There’s nothing we can do, it’s business and it will be like that for another 12 years,” he said.
Some francophone fans outside Quebec will have access to TVA Sports as an add-on to their cable or satellite packages. Rogers, which controls the national NHL rights, offers TVA Sports on its cable service, but it’s not currently available on Canada’s other major cable provider, Shaw.
RDS also played a role in promoting bilingualism in the country because many anglophones outside Quebec subscribed to the channel to fill in the gaps between the team’s appearances on Hockey Night in Canada and on the TSN main network.
There will also be fewer English-language telecasts available for anglophones in Quebec and Eastern Canada. There will be 18 Saturday night games available nationally under the Hockey Night in Canada banner and another 13 games on City TV or Sportsnet. That’s about the same number of national games as in the past and there will be greater access to those games in Ontario and in the West.
But there will be no English regional package as there has been in recent years. TSN and Rogers both passed on the regional package because it didn’t make sense from a financial point of view.
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 6:05:02 GMT -5
For fans outside the Montreal Canadiens region, they will be severely impacted by the new TV deal as only 32 of the Habs games will be available on television. That is quite the decrease from the 82 that has been available for the last couple of seasons via RDS. As RDS’ new contract is to broadcast games regionally only, their 60 games in 2014-15 will not be available outside of the Canadiens viewing region. To watch the rest of the games, fans will have to spend around $200 to order NHL Centre Ice or NHL Gamecenter Live.
Rogers has nothing to do with the blackouts. The blame should be directed towards the NHL for their method of distributing TV broadcast rights.full article, allhabs.net
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Post by HabSolute on Sept 4, 2014 7:36:26 GMT -5
It's not 9h30 in the morning yet and I have a headache trying to figure out all this..... But it doesn't look good for us Habs fans in the GTA I hear you, man ... unbelievable ... every day is a new combination ... I cancelled RDS for the summer ... do you have a good internet package? ... the major ISPs will compete to get your business ... Cheers. I am with Bell Satellite also. I don't want to switch for Fibe because I would have to replace all the receivers in the house (I have 4). They rent for 7/mth of sell for 200$ a pop. My internet is good but quite frankly, streaming a game on my computer isn't really appealing. And I usually watch with my son. I will buy the Centre Ice package. The way I see it, one night at the Bell Centre would cost me at least $200 after ticket, "beverages", dinner etc....., so for the same price, I get the 42 games missing from the Rogers option and I can watch on any TV in the house. Still a good deal. (RDS was 15$/month anyway with Bell and I kept it all year). hey, I might also enjoyed watching other teams play on NHL CI
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Post by HabSolute on Sept 4, 2014 7:40:13 GMT -5
It's weird that Bell seems to be sitting on the side line in all this mess.
Maybe its time they also do something for Hockey fans with Bell as a provider
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 4, 2014 8:03:33 GMT -5
Bell (like Rogers) also owns 37.5% of MLSE.
There's no way they'll step on Rogers' toes by offering RDS outside the "regional" area.
Was nice while it lasted.
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 8:16:45 GMT -5
The French regional games (RDS) will be available in the west through a mini package SN has created to help address this specific issue. Games will be offered within both NHL Centre Ice and Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE. Rogers Internet and Wireless Data customers will get free access to Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE until the end of this year.
Someone who's NOT a Rogers customer can buy either / both of these packages (Centre Ice give you access via Cable to all out-of-market games - unless there is no feed produced, which might be the case for the odd small market US vs. US matchup - and Rogers NHL GCL gives access to nearly every game through internet, smartphone, tablet, game console, etc...the only games that won't be available in RGCL are the games that are broadcast in-market by TSN or RDS. Folks out West will get pretty much all 1,230 NHL games through RGCL (if they're in the Jets territory, there will be the 60 regional TSN Jets games that SN is not allowed to include).
For a French Habs fan anywhere West of Kingston/Belleville (ie. outside of the Habs territory) who really only want access to the RDS games that they used to have through their RDS subscription, SN also just announced a French Habs/Sens package will will give access to those 111 games (60 Habs, 54 Sens - 3 of those are against each other, so that's where you get to 111). This package will be available for $59.99 for the entire season (just over $0.50 per game), either as a Centre Ice type Cable package, or as a Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE package for internet/mobile device viewing.
People can start registering for the main RGCL package or purchasing at the early bird price in the next few days at Rogers.com/NHL/ - registration for the Sens/Habs French package will be available closer to puck-drop.
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 4, 2014 8:26:15 GMT -5
Thanks franko. It appears that Bell satellite subscribers across Canada will have affordable access to all Habs' games.
I'll wait for more info before signing up for the best package(s).
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Post by HabSolute on Sept 4, 2014 9:09:50 GMT -5
The French regional games (RDS) will be available in the west through a mini package SN has created to help address this specific issue. Games will be offered within both NHL Centre Ice and Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE. Rogers Internet and Wireless Data customers will get free access to Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE until the end of this year. Someone who's NOT a Rogers customer can buy either / both of these packages (Centre Ice give you access via Cable to all out-of-market games - unless there is no feed produced, which might be the case for the odd small market US vs. US matchup - and Rogers NHL GCL gives access to nearly every game through internet, smartphone, tablet, game console, etc...the only games that won't be available in RGCL are the games that are broadcast in-market by TSN or RDS. Folks out West will get pretty much all 1,230 NHL games through RGCL (if they're in the Jets territory, there will be the 60 regional TSN Jets games that SN is not allowed to include). For a French Habs fan anywhere West of Kingston/Belleville (ie. outside of the Habs territory) who really only want access to the RDS games that they used to have through their RDS subscription, SN also just announced a French Habs/Sens package will will give access to those 111 games (60 Habs, 54 Sens - 3 of those are against each other, so that's where you get to 111). This package will be available for $59.99 for the entire season (just over $0.50 per game), either as a Centre Ice type Cable package, or as a Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE package for internet/mobile device viewing. People can start registering for the main RGCL package or purchasing at the early bird price in the next few days at Rogers.com/NHL/ - registration for the Sens/Habs French package will be available closer to puck-drop. Will this $59.99 package be available also on Bell satellite or only those who have Rogers ?
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 9:41:58 GMT -5
Will this $59.99 package be available also on Bell satellite or only those who have Rogers ? my guess is that Rogers GCL will be available to everyone -- download the app, but you are still responsible for bandwidth. my other guess is that Bell will grit their teeth and make arrangements with Rogers.
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Post by Tankdriver on Sept 4, 2014 10:05:19 GMT -5
More info from the gazette: www.montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/montreal-canadiens/package+aimed+Habs+fans/10172356/story.htmlCanadiens fans in Ontario and points West have reason to celebrate after Rogers on Wednesday announced a package that will allow fans to watch all 82 regular-season games on television. “Canadiens fans have more access to their team’s games than any fan base in Canada,” said Scott Moore, who oversees the media giant’s National Hockey League offerings on Sportsnet and other platforms. “They can see more games, for example, than a Leafs fan in Vancouver. We’ve put together a French-language package which will allow fans to see 60 Canadiens games and 54 Ottawa Senators.” Both packages will originate with RDS. In past years, fans across Canada were able to subscribe to RDS, which held the national French-language TV rights. When Rogers outbid TSN for the national rights last November, it sold the French rights to TVA and RDS had to make do with regional packages involving the Canadiens and Senators. Fans living west of Belleville didn’t have access to the regional coverage and many feared they would have to fork out $200 for NHL Centre Ice to supplement the 32 Canadiens games on Rogers’s various national telecasts. The French-language games will now be available for $60, which is more than what most fans were paying for RDS, but still relatively inexpensive. Moore, a self-professed Canadiens fan, was on hand Wednesday as TVA launched its inaugural NHL season with a splashy affair at the Cage aux Sports in Boucherville. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, NHL chief operating officer John Collins, former prime minister Brian Mulroney, Canadiens owner Geoff Molson, TVA Sports president Pierre Dion and NHL stars past and present were on hand to mark the occasion. Former Canadiens captain Yvan Cournoyer renewed acquaintances with the Stanley Cup — which he won 10 times — when it was carried to his table by former Habs Patrice Brisebois and Vincent Lecavalier. TVA Sports is paying more than $1.3 billion for the national French TV rights over 12 years and Dion said the network would be offering more than 330 NHL games this season, beginning with the Montreal-Toronto opener on Oct. 8. The lineup includes NHL regular-season games, the playoffs, the All-Star Game and all the outdoor games. Dion promised a game every night of the week and added there will be theme nights based on traditional and geographical rivalries, matchups between star players, and fan nights that will allow viewers to decide which games get the featured treatment. The one drawback for TVA is that the schedule doesn’t include that many Canadiens games. While TVA has most of the Saturday night games, it has only 22 Canadiens games. The other 60 regular-season games are in that RDS regional package. While Rogers relied heavily on the Hockey Night in Canada talent pool, TVA will offer some fresh faces and voices. Félix Seguin will be the main play-by-play voice and former NHL goaltender Patrick Lalime will be alongside him in the booth. The major steal from RDS is veteran insider Renaud Lavoie, who was plugged in enough to make the jump before TVA secured the NHL rights. Louis Jean, who handled the emcee chores Wednesday, will host the telecasts. Brisebois, who recently left his job as a development coach with the Canadiens, will offer his expertise for TVA. Former coach Michel Bergeron is also on board, as are former players Mathieu Dandenault, Éric Fichaud, Dave Morrisette and José Theodore. The lone woman in front of the camera will be Elizabeth Rancourt, a relative newcomer who has established herself as a credible reporter. TVA will give the NHL package a plug with a hockey-themed episode of Le Banquier on Oct. 5. The French version of Deal or No Deal will lose some of its eye appeal with former players replacing the models, and hostess Julie Snyder will get a helping hand from the Canadiens’ P.K. Subban.
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Post by HabSolute on Sept 4, 2014 10:19:58 GMT -5
More info from the gazette: www.montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/montreal-canadiens/package+aimed+Habs+fans/10172356/story.htmlCanadiens fans in Ontario and points West have reason to celebrate after Rogers on Wednesday announced a package that will allow fans to watch all 82 regular-season games on television. “Canadiens fans have more access to their team’s games than any fan base in Canada,” said Scott Moore, who oversees the media giant’s National Hockey League offerings on Sportsnet and other platforms. “They can see more games, for example, than a Leafs fan in Vancouver. We’ve put together a French-language package which will allow fans to see 60 Canadiens games and 54 Ottawa Senators.” Both packages will originate with RDS. In past years, fans across Canada were able to subscribe to RDS, which held the national French-language TV rights. When Rogers outbid TSN for the national rights last November, it sold the French rights to TVA and RDS had to make do with regional packages involving the Canadiens and Senators. Fans living west of Belleville didn’t have access to the regional coverage and many feared they would have to fork out $200 for NHL Centre Ice to supplement the 32 Canadiens games on Rogers’s various national telecasts. The French-language games will now be available for $60, which is more than what most fans were paying for RDS, but still relatively inexpensive. This is starting to slowly take shape.... A few questions I would still have: - will this 60$ RDS package also be available for those of us with Bell Satellite TV ? - Do I have to be subscribing to RDS in the first place, THEN buy the 60$ package ? Or do I just pay 60$ and will have RDS ONLY when there is a game ? Because for Bell customer, RDS is 15$/month (you can't have only RDS, you need the whole French package). Will I pay 15$/month AND 60$ to remove the black out ? I would call Bell for answers but I am afraid I will spend half a day on the phone and get no answers....
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Post by FREEHAB on Sept 4, 2014 10:28:54 GMT -5
OK - now I'm REALLY confused.
I am an English speaking Habs fan who lives in the heart of South Western Ontario. West of Toronto in fact.
I am with Rogers and I currently get all 5 TSN channels. I currently get all 4 Sportsnet channels. I currently have the Rogers french channel package which includes RDS at $6.00 per month. While I don't speak french (high school equivalent, which is now 25 years old and fading fast) - the $6.00 per month option of watching all games on RDS was perfect for me and much less than NHL Center Ice.
What does this all mean for me, now that the brain trust has revamped it all?
It would seem we are in a bit of a "No Man's Land" and will have to cobble together various options to get to see every game?
Maybe someone needs to explain this to me like I'm a 5 year old.
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Post by FREEHAB on Sept 4, 2014 10:34:06 GMT -5
More info from the gazette: www.montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/montreal-canadiens/package+aimed+Habs+fans/10172356/story.htmlCanadiens fans in Ontario and points West have reason to celebrate after Rogers on Wednesday announced a package that will allow fans to watch all 82 regular-season games on television. “Canadiens fans have more access to their team’s games than any fan base in Canada,” said Scott Moore, who oversees the media giant’s National Hockey League offerings on Sportsnet and other platforms. “They can see more games, for example, than a Leafs fan in Vancouver. We’ve put together a French-language package which will allow fans to see 60 Canadiens games and 54 Ottawa Senators.” Both packages will originate with RDS. In past years, fans across Canada were able to subscribe to RDS, which held the national French-language TV rights. When Rogers outbid TSN for the national rights last November, it sold the French rights to TVA and RDS had to make do with regional packages involving the Canadiens and Senators. Fans living west of Belleville didn’t have access to the regional coverage and many feared they would have to fork out $200 for NHL Centre Ice to supplement the 32 Canadiens games on Rogers’s various national telecasts. The French-language games will now be available for $60, which is more than what most fans were paying for RDS, but still relatively inexpensive. This is starting to slowly take shape.... A few questions I would still have: - will this 60$ RDS package also be available for those of us with Bell Satellite TV ? - Do I have to be subscribing to RDS in the first place, THEN buy the 60$ package ? Or do I just pay 60$ and will have RDS ONLY when there is a game ? Because for Bell customer, RDS is 15$/month (you can't have only RDS, you need the whole French package). Will I pay 15$/month AND 60$ to remove the black out ? I would call Bell for answers but I am afraid I will spend half a day on the phone and get no answers.... I agree Habsolute. The customer service folks at Rogers don't seem to have a clue, and trying to explain the where, why and how of it all will likely fall on def ears. A simple 1 stop solution for both providers would be ideal - but when has common sense every come into play.
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 10:58:50 GMT -5
I agree Habsolute. The customer service folks at Rogers don't seem to have a clue, and trying to explain the where, why and how of it all will likely fall on def ears. A simple 1 stop solution for both providers would be ideal - but when has common sense every come into play. the reason that the customer service folks at Rogers don't have a clue is that SN continues to negotiate. we wind up getting snippets of what is happening as it happens . . . sometimes before the CSreps find out. they haven't been told anything yet, really . . . pricing will be finalized shortly; on line orders taken in a couple of days [not much on the Rogers NHL page but that's where to find things out. it's year 1. they'll figure it out.
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 11:20:40 GMT -5
OK - now I'm REALLY confused. I am an English speaking Habs fan who lives in the heart of South Western Ontario. West of Toronto in fact. I am with Rogers and I currently get all 5 TSN channels. I currently get all 4 Sportsnet channels. I currently have the Rogers french channel package which includes RDS at $6.00 per month. While I don't speak french (high school equivalent, which is now 25 years old and fading fast) - the $6.00 per month option of watching all games on RDS was perfect for me and much less than NHL Center Ice. What does this all mean for me, now that the brain trust has revamped it all? It would seem we are in a bit of a "No Man's Land" and will have to cobble together various options to get to see every game? Maybe someone needs to explain this to me like I'm a 5 year old. heck, you need some sort of high sounding degree to figure it all out because it hasn't been cobbled together in one spot yet. as I see it: if you live east of the magic line (Belleville/Pembrooke) you get the full Habs feed: 40 national games and 42 regional games (English) on SN East. if you live west of the magic line, blackouts apply for the regional games. if you live west of the magic line and want to watch the blacked out games you will have to pay: either NHL Centre Ice or Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE (English), or a special/specific Habs/Sens Centre Ice/GCL package for $60 for the RDS games (French). TSN isn't going to do you any good. I was told that people can start registering for the main RGCL package or purchasing at the early bird price in the next few days at Rogers.com/NHL/ - registration for the Sens/Habs French package will be available closer to puck-drop. ____ at least, that's how I see it
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 11:25:18 GMT -5
A few questions I would still have don't we all? I'm guessing that Bell will offer it just as they offer Centre Ice. my guess is door number 2. not sure if it will be RDS or rebranded as NHL Centre Ice East (Habs, Sens) or something like that. yup. until negotiations are finalized no one knows anything for sure.
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Post by HabSolute on Sept 4, 2014 11:34:36 GMT -5
A few questions I would still have don't we all? I'm guessing that Bell will offer it just as they offer Centre Ice. my guess is door number 2. not sure if it will be RDS or rebranded as NHL Centre Ice East (Habs, Sens) or something like that. yup. until negotiations are finalized no one knows anything for sure.
I emailed Pat Hickey from The Gazette with the same questions above, here is his answer:
It will be available through Bell and you don't have to subscribe to RDS. Pat Hickey
Sports Columnist | Chroniqueur
The Gazette - a division of Postmedia Network Inc
1010 Sainte-Catherine Street West, Suite 200, Montreal QC, H3B 5L1
T: 514.987.2499 | C: 514.713.1743 | E: phickey@montrealgazette.com
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Post by UberCranky on Sept 4, 2014 12:43:38 GMT -5
Given that I deleted almost half the games last year and given that I can only watch half the games this year.....I'm only missing a quarter of them! LOL!
I don't know about you guys, but I'm certainly not paying $200 for seasonal package, nor $37.50 a month. If the $7 RDS or equivalent package is not there, I'm pretty sure my life will go on.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 4, 2014 13:33:38 GMT -5
Me too. Since most Raptors games are on Sportsnet for nothing extra, basketball is looking good.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 4, 2014 14:37:26 GMT -5
OK - now I'm REALLY confused. I am an English speaking Habs fan who lives in the heart of South Western Ontario. West of Toronto in fact. I am with Rogers and I currently get all 5 TSN channels. I currently get all 4 Sportsnet channels. I currently have the Rogers french channel package which includes RDS at $6.00 per month. While I don't speak french (high school equivalent, which is now 25 years old and fading fast) - the $6.00 per month option of watching all games on RDS was perfect for me and much less than NHL Center Ice. What does this all mean for me, now that the brain trust has revamped it all? It would seem we are in a bit of a "No Man's Land" and will have to cobble together various options to get to see every game? Maybe someone needs to explain this to me like I'm a 5 year old. I use Bell Satellite and I pay $7 bucks a month for the French package that includes RDS ... I'll be holding onto this bundle of channels until I see what the final product is ... Rogers is listening to feedback, though ... that's a positive, I guess ... once Rogers starts losing subscribers I suspect we'll see a solid 82-game package available to everyone ... just keep complaining enough ... Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Sept 4, 2014 14:45:50 GMT -5
The French regional games (RDS) will be available in the west through a mini package SN has created to help address this specific issue. Games will be offered within both NHL Centre Ice and Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE. Rogers Internet and Wireless Data customers will get free access to Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE until the end of this year. Someone who's NOT a Rogers customer can buy either / both of these packages (Centre Ice give you access via Cable to all out-of-market games - unless there is no feed produced, which might be the case for the odd small market US vs. US matchup - and Rogers NHL GCL gives access to nearly every game through internet, smartphone, tablet, game console, etc...the only games that won't be available in RGCL are the games that are broadcast in-market by TSN or RDS. Folks out West will get pretty much all 1,230 NHL games through RGCL (if they're in the Jets territory, there will be the 60 regional TSN Jets games that SN is not allowed to include). For a French Habs fan anywhere West of Kingston/Belleville (ie. outside of the Habs territory) who really only want access to the RDS games that they used to have through their RDS subscription, SN also just announced a French Habs/Sens package will will give access to those 111 games (60 Habs, 54 Sens - 3 of those are against each other, so that's where you get to 111). This package will be available for $59.99 for the entire season (just over $0.50 per game), either as a Centre Ice type Cable package, or as a Rogers NHL GameCentre LIVE package for internet/mobile device viewing. People can start registering for the main RGCL package or purchasing at the early bird price in the next few days at Rogers.com/NHL/ - registration for the Sens/Habs French package will be available closer to puck-drop. That $60.00 package seems OK, cheaper than I thought it would be, but they should be paying us to watch Sens games. And if I can cancel the channel package I use to get RDS that saves me $7.00 monthly.
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Post by franko on Sept 4, 2014 14:47:30 GMT -5
once Rogers starts losing subscribers I suspect we'll see a solid 82-game package available to everyone ... just keep complaining enough ... the problem is not Rogers, it is the NHL policy about blackouts.
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