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Post by CentreHice on Sept 23, 2014 20:04:39 GMT -5
Thomas bats in his own rebound at the end of a very terrible looking power-play.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 23, 2014 20:05:43 GMT -5
Got in for the start of the second period ... like the transition game ... on a few shifts the Habs look structured coming out of their own end ... then they give up an odd-man rush while SH ... oh ... et le buuuuuuut ... Thomas knows what to do around the net ... did I read earlier that Pateryn was playing is way into the AHL after only one period ... nice hit by Tinordi ... no response from the Bruins ... must be a pre-season game ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disp on Sept 23, 2014 20:06:32 GMT -5
McCarron, I like that. Big kid.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 23, 2014 20:07:51 GMT -5
On a turnover, Scherbak fed Bourque on a 2 on 1 and Bourque hit the goalie. My mind's made up You know what ... yeah, I saw the same thing ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 23, 2014 20:08:20 GMT -5
Tinordi with a big hit on Fraser. Then McCarron drives to the net, loses the puck, but throws the Bruin dman into Svedberg.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 23, 2014 20:08:21 GMT -5
Am I clairvoyant, or what? McCarron just showed exactly what I talked about above. He took the puck wide, around the Bruin defender, fanned on his shot on goal, but right then the Bruin defenseman threw himself at McCarron, bounced off and took out the goalie. It was like a Fiat 500 hitting a Mack Truck. The announcers are still chuckling at the play. Now if we could just improve his shot.
An odd observation. We look much bigger than the Bruins. Isn't that weird? Yeah, we have our smurfs still. Thomas, Andrighetto and Hudon are all smallish, but they are more than made up for with Tinordi, Finley, McCarron, Delarose, etc. etc. That's big team out there and we're making the Bruins look small. Yikes.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 23, 2014 20:11:54 GMT -5
McCarron, I like that. Big kid. Wonder what's up with that injury ... favouring his wrist or arm (whatever part hit the pipe) ... Cheers.
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Post by Disp on Sept 23, 2014 20:20:12 GMT -5
McCarron, I like that. Big kid. Wonder what's up with that injury ... favouring his wrist or arm (whatever part hit the pipe) ... Cheers. Yeah, could be his shoulder, too bad.
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Post by Disp on Sept 23, 2014 20:44:26 GMT -5
Sorkin kid has been really good too.
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Post by franko on Sept 23, 2014 20:46:49 GMT -5
Any stream available guys? My package doesn't have RDS. i have RDS ... pregame is on; guess I'll know in 3 minutes if I get the game. fingers crossed Nope ... right at 16:30 (BC time) ... 'not available in my viewing area' ... well, I guess a call to bell will be tomorrow's plan. gotta flood the NHL and Habs offices with this -- their decision about protected areas. from the NHL web site:Blackout restrictions exist to protect the local television telecasters of each NHL game in the local markets of the teams. Keep in mind that blackout policies and restrictions are different for every sports package that your system may carry. (NHL CENTRE ICE is designed for the NHL fan who wants to see NHL games from across the entire NHL).
If you are located in a team's television territory, you have access to all locally televised games through your local television provider. You will not be able to see these games in NHL CENTRE ICE.
Blackouts are not based on arena sell-outs.$200 for the Rogers stream, don't know about Centre Ice.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 23, 2014 21:04:23 GMT -5
i have RDS ... pregame is on; guess I'll know in 3 minutes if I get the game. fingers crossed Nope ... right at 16:30 (BC time) ... 'not available in my viewing area' ... well, I guess a call to bell will be tomorrow's plan. gotta flood the NHL and Habs offices with this -- their decision about protected areas. from the NHL web site:Blackout restrictions exist to protect the local television telecasters of each NHL game in the local markets of the teams. Keep in mind that blackout policies and restrictions are different for every sports package that your system may carry. (NHL CENTRE ICE is designed for the NHL fan who wants to see NHL games from across the entire NHL).
If you are located in a team's television territory, you have access to all locally televised games through your local television provider. You will not be able to see these games in NHL CENTRE ICE.
Blackouts are not based on arena sell-outs.$200 for the Rogers stream, don't know about Centre Ice. Good advise ... have to let them know about this ... they'll find a solution pretty quick once they realize they're losing money ... money they need to make up for the deal they signed ... Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 23, 2014 21:07:36 GMT -5
Habs win in dying seconds. Welcome to life as a Bruin Malcolm. Get use to the heart break.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 23, 2014 21:15:27 GMT -5
Habs win in dying seconds. Welcome to life as a Bruin Malcolm. Get use to the heart break. Lmao.. poor Malcolm got drafted by a team on the decline.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 23, 2014 21:22:40 GMT -5
Don't know if we're having pre-season, post-game threads, but I'll leave my comments here ... good game by Tokarski ... great game-saving stop literally in the dying seconds of the game ... wonder if he's going to be showcased in this pre-season (might explain Fucale's quick exit) ... Drayson Bowman is already a proven NHLer and he had a pretty good game tonight ... thought he looked a bigger 6'1", or he played bigger than is size, one of the two ... Christian Thomas was the opportunist tonight; good game by both veterans, I thought ... Sekac looked comfortable in a game dominated by prospects ... take that Malcolm Subban!!
Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 23, 2014 21:27:51 GMT -5
Don't know if we're having pre-season, post-game threads, but I'll leave my comments here ... good game by Tokarski ... great game-saving stop literally in the dying seconds of the game ... wonder if he's going to be showcased in this pre-season (might explain Fucale's quick exit) ... Drayson Bowman is already a proven NHLer and he had a pretty good game tonight ... thought he looked a bigger 6'1", or he played bigger than is size, one of the two ... Christian Thomas was the opportunist tonight; good game by both veterans, I thought ... Sekac looked comfortable in a game dominated by prospects ... take that Malcolm Subban!! Cheers. Pretty sure it was MacDonald in net for the last half of the game and he played well. Toker didn't look all that sharp. Liked Thomas and his speed (but there's the size thing again). As for prospects i thought the Habs had much more speed than Bs and have much more size than the past. Don't know how many of these prospects will crack this line-up but i like our depth going forward.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 23, 2014 21:50:29 GMT -5
Don't know if we're having pre-season, post-game threads, but I'll leave my comments here ... good game by Tokarski ... great game-saving stop literally in the dying seconds of the game ... wonder if he's going to be showcased in this pre-season (might explain Fucale's quick exit) ... Drayson Bowman is already a proven NHLer and he had a pretty good game tonight ... thought he looked a bigger 6'1", or he played bigger than is size, one of the two ... Christian Thomas was the opportunist tonight; good game by both veterans, I thought ... Sekac looked comfortable in a game dominated by prospects ... take that Malcolm Subban!! Cheers. Pretty sure it was MacDonald in net for the last half of the game and he played well. Toker didn't look all that sharp. Liked Thomas and his speed (but there's the size thing again). As for prospects i thought the Habs had much more speed than Bs and have much more size than the past. Don't know how many of these prospects will crack this line-up but i like our depth going forward. Man, I didn't even notice the goaltending change ... Joey MacDonald is just another veteran NHL goaltender who bounced around the league for a while ... however, he did play briefly for the Bruins (looked that up) so it gave a small twist to game, I guess ... I was in Calgary last year for the Flames/Habs and he shut the door on the us ... kind of a Peter Budaj type of goaltender, me thinks ... Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 23, 2014 22:00:04 GMT -5
MacDonald's a good pick up. Will be good for the kids on the farm and can certainly play a string of games with the big club if injuries kick in.
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Post by BadCompany on Sept 24, 2014 7:10:48 GMT -5
I only saw the third period, but Christian Thomas to me was the best player on the ice. Head and shoulders above the other players ( ). Not just on the goal, but I thought I saw him use his speed to negate an icing as well. Drayson Bowman was also noticeable, and as a guy who played 70 NHL games last year he might be a darkhorse to steal somebody's job. A toi, M. Bournival. Hopefully these two can keep it up and make things difficult for Bergevin. Like, would Thomas be a better winger than Desharnais? ( oh no you dinnit!) I liked Sekac, but I guess I was hoping for a little bit more given all the hype that has been around him. He's definitely got NHL size, which is good, but I didn't see him "flying" out there, like I thought I would, or heck, like Thomas was. Still think he's going to make the team though. I was hoping to see something from Scherbak, but honestly I didn't see too much. Though again I only watched the 3rd period. What I did notice was that he is very tall, but suffers from Pierre Dagenitis, in that his legs seem to be very skinny. Beef them up, boy! Eat more steak! If he fills out he's going to have Eller-like size, if you ask me. Was not impressed with any of the defense. Markov I give a pass too, because he's Markov. Gilbert I would give the veteran pass too, if not for the fact that he was bought out by the Minnesota Wild a couple of seasons ago. He had a good "advanced stats" year last season, but we'll see who we are getting. Hopefully this doesn't become a problem because I was not impressed with either of Paetryn or Tinordi, though again it was only one period. But they both seemed to get a lot of ice time in that period, and neither one of them looked NHL caliber to me. Ruh-roh, as Scooby would say. First preseason game, and I only saw one period. But that doesn't mean I haven't got the season figured out, right?
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 24, 2014 7:18:43 GMT -5
I thought Pateryn had a real bad game and made Tinordi look bad, but on TSN690 they said Pateryn played solid.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 24, 2014 7:19:26 GMT -5
I saw this on Hockey I/O
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Post by Doc Holliday on Sept 24, 2014 8:25:45 GMT -5
...Sorkin and Thomas were, IMO, our most steady performers, which doesn’t say much… None of the “hyped kids” DLR, Hudon, Scherback, Andrighetto made an impression on me. On the other hand McCarron who everybody keep saying is not that good, a long term project, etc… looked closer to being an NHL player to me… good skating, good balance, massive frame, plays simple just goes to the net… this kid will be a major headache for opposing dmen. Sekac, looked ok but considering he’s been playing pro hockey for many years, I expected more…
Tinordi… men has this player changed or what… zero confidence with the puck, zero poise… …sure he can use his body but right now he’s sliding into a O’Byrne type of player… Pateryn I never liked anyway, he’s not better or worst than he ever was IMO. Didn’t notice Nygren bad or good…
...not impressed in general.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 24, 2014 8:35:29 GMT -5
...Sorkin and Thomas were, IMO, our most steady performers, which doesn’t say much… None of the “hyped kids” DLR, Hudon, Scherback, Andrighetto made an impression on me. On the other hand McCarron who everybody keep saying is not that good, a long term project, etc… looked closer to being an NHL player to me… good skating, good balance, massive frame, plays simple just goes to the net… this kid will be a major headache for opposing dmen. Sekac, looked ok but considering he’s been playing pro hockey for many years, I expected more… Tinordi… men has this player changed or what… zero confidence with the puck, zero poise… …sure he can use his body but right now he’s sliding into a O’Byrne type of player… Pateryn I never liked anyway, he’s not better or worst than he ever was IMO. Didn’t notice Nygren bad or good… ...not impressed in general. McCarron on the PP would be interesting... love to see him and Chara battle it out. Regarding Tinordi, MT does not instill confidence in this guy, I am not sure if he gets any sort of confidence boost from Lefebvre and to me Pateryn looked just as shaky as Tinordi. I am hoping they get the jitters out of their system and play better next game.
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Post by Skilly on Sept 24, 2014 8:53:39 GMT -5
Well, we iced our "D" team and they managed to win ... that's a good sign.
I thought Sekac and Plekanec knew where the other was on the ice at all times. They had a few good possession drills in the offensive zone, where it looked like they were playing "keep-away". That got me thinking; having two Plekanec's on the same line is not a good thing. Someone has to shoot. Sekac played over 19 minutes, PLekanec played over 17 minutes. They each registered one shot, and IMO at least, seemingly always had the puck ... not good, not good at all. Whoever plays with those two, better like to shoot, and I mean shoot as often as Ovechkin or Ryder.
Pateryn was awful ... it was only one pre-season game, but I think his chances were next to nothing, and now they are zilch.
One thing is for certain. We have to find a second option for our PP ... it isn't Gilbert, it isn't even Markov. I hope it is Beaulieu. Personally, I think picking up Gilbert was one of the worse moves made by Bergevin. Depth is good, sure, but Gilbert/Weaver is the depth, not the starter. I dont see the sense in giving Gilbert/Weaver the ice-time that should be going to Beaulieu/Tinordi. If I am picking this defensive core the seventh defenseman comes down between Gilbert and Weaver.
Emelin/Subban Markov/Tinordi Beaulieu/ who ever complements him best out of Gilbert/Weaver
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Post by Doc Holliday on Sept 24, 2014 9:33:50 GMT -5
Gilbert reminded me of Spacek and not in a good way... I know it's only pre-season but still...
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 24, 2014 10:00:49 GMT -5
I also thought the best player on the ice last night was Christian Thomas. If he shows that intensity on a consistent basis in Hamilton, they may have to find him a spot on the big team sooner than we think. The kid is a chip off the old block. He looked like a natural goal scorer out there. I no longer regret Danny Kristo.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 24, 2014 10:03:26 GMT -5
I always liked Spacek. I'm not going to put too much emphasis on last night's game in evaluating a player. For some, it was their first game in front of 18,0000 people and they may have simply been tighter than they normally would be.
Regarding individual assessments. Thomas has good hands, but I fear he's one of those small guys who isn't quite fast enough. Neither Markov nor Gilbert looked especially good and I blame the low level of competition and the fact they've got spots in hand and just want to avoid injury.
Was I watching a different guy called Pateryn? I thought he had pretty good poise with the puck and more patience than Tinordi. I think Tinordi's puck handling deficiency is all due to that stupidly long stick of his. If he cut 6 inches off, I think he'd have more control. Yes it would hurt him a bit defensively, but the rest of his stick game would be better. It just looks really awkward to me.
I don't see any management minds being changed by yesterday's game. Bournival will not be displaced by anyone. Beaulieu will be Weaver's partner and either Tinordi or Pateryn will be #7 depending on whether they need a rightie or leftie. Everyone else will be sent to juniour or Hamilton. Sekac has made the Habs. He showed a good move to get the puck to a scoring position and then firing a hard shot which ended up in the net and he is solid positionally. He goes to the right places. Delarose will benefit from time in Hamilton, Thomas may be trade bait, etc. etc.
My overwhelming impression is that we have a lot of depth and a lot of guys on the cusp of being solid NHL'rs.
And oh yeah, Bourque was singularly unimpressive last night. He has no incentive to play hard, I kmow, but he should have roofed that excellent pass of Scherbak's. Instead he put it in the spot where the goalie had a chance to stop it, and did. Sigh.
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Post by franko on Sept 24, 2014 10:25:12 GMT -5
And oh yeah, Bourque was singularly unimpressive last night. He has no incentive to play hard, I kmow, but he should have roofed that excellent pass of Scherbak's. Instead he put it in the spot where the goalie had a chance to stop it, and did. Sigh. if nothing else, Bourque has been consistent over the years. echoing your "sigh".
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 24, 2014 10:49:30 GMT -5
I hope Bergevin won't fool around too long with Rene Bourque. Just buy him out if he doesn't want to be a team player.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 24, 2014 12:01:35 GMT -5
I don't think being a team player has much to do with his performance. I suspect he's ok as a team guy. You'd like a player who is tagged as a scorer, though, to score, when there is a good opportunity, or at least make it difficult for the goalie. There were other instances yesterday, where the plays bogged down after the puck went to Bourque, something that drove me crazy last year. My cross to bear, I guess.
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