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Post by NWTHabsFan on Sept 26, 2014 21:05:38 GMT -5
Wow, did not think that lineup would win this one against a much stronger Avs lineup.
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Post by Disp on Sept 26, 2014 21:11:57 GMT -5
Fun game to watch. Toker was great. Some pretty good young talent out there.
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Post by UberCranky on Sept 27, 2014 2:45:44 GMT -5
Planning committee on the Cup route now taking volunteers..........  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 27, 2014 8:24:23 GMT -5
Thought DD looked a bit lost without Pacioretty ... Sekac was our best player last night ... kind of surprised at the result last night ... Andrighetto with a good game, too ... Tokarski looked surprised on one of the goals, but he had a strong game just the same ...
Cheers.
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 27, 2014 11:25:33 GMT -5
I thought Tinordi played a decent game. Now if he could only display a mean streak if he has one.
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Post by jkr on Sept 27, 2014 11:58:02 GMT -5
I don't understand. Boullion was offered a contract, refused it yet he's still in the lineup? Makes no sense to me. Time to move on.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 27, 2014 12:02:17 GMT -5
I thought Tinordi played a decent game. Now if he could only display a mean streak if he has one. I didn't see a lot of opportunity last night, but I suspect he will be tested similarly the way they tested Ryan O'Byrne a few years back ... Cheers. |
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 27, 2014 13:39:51 GMT -5
Bou-Bou was wearing an A on his jersey last night. I don't think he's on his way out soon. As far as I'm concerned, they can give him a one-way contract if it doesn't affect our cap when he's not in the line-up. Don't even demote him to Hamilton. Keep him in the press box as a #8 dman just in case we should need him. Play him every now and then against physically tough teams in order to use his hitting and fighting abilities. That way he'll keep the shape. Scratch him against teams loaded with talent and speed.
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Post by HABSINFL on Sept 27, 2014 14:00:08 GMT -5
Sounds like a good idea flowerpower, but at the expense of Tinordi and Beaulieu going to the Dogs.
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Post by franko on Sept 27, 2014 14:52:18 GMT -5
Bou-Bou was wearing an A on his jersey last night. I don't think he's on his way out soon. As far as I'm concerned, they can give him a one-way contract if it doesn't affect our cap when he's not in the line-up. Don't even demote him to Hamilton. Keep him in the press box as a #8 dman just in case we should need him. Play him every now and then against physically tough teams in order to use his hitting and fighting abilities. That way he'll keep the shape. I'd just rather |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Sept 27, 2014 16:39:10 GMT -5
Sounds like a good idea flowerpower, but at the expense of Tinordi and Beaulieu going to the Dogs. Not exactly sold on Beaulieau just yet.....last season he's was very inconsistent defensively playing for the dogs.... That inconsistent play lasted the whole year. He had a great start to the preseason but we still need options as Tinordi nor pateryn are not ready yet imo. Frankie might be a useful spare part down the stretch or in the playoffs....it's a long season?  |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 27, 2014 19:57:37 GMT -5
I still see keeping Bouillon as lack of confidence in the kids. If none of the 4 are going to work out (a near certainty, he says sarcastically), then address it. Trade for someone else with a Corsi above 35, or is it too hard to find those type of guys? Don't keep someone who you can't trust to have more than one decent game in a row.
It's such a loser move to me. I really hate it.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 27, 2014 20:08:21 GMT -5
Sounds like a good idea flowerpower, but at the expense of Tinordi and Beaulieu going to the Dogs. Not exactly sold on Beaulieau just yet.....last season he's was very inconsistent defensively playing for the dogs.... That inconsistent play lasted the whole year. He had a great start to the preseason but we still need options as Tinordi nor pateryn are not ready yet imo. Frankie might be a useful spare part down the stretch or in the playoffs....it's a long season? I think of the three, Beaulieu, Tinordi and Pateryn, Beaulieu has made the best of his chances in the show ... Tinordi show more potential than, say, Mike Komisarek ... but at the same time Greg Pateryn had an excellent year scoring 15 goals in the AHL ... I don't know if they're ready yet, or not but all three of them give Bergevin options ... IMHO, all three are ready for the show, Beaulieu having the lead ... Tschuss! |
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Post by stoat on Sept 28, 2014 0:43:48 GMT -5
The Habs have depth. Bergevin didn't acquire an all-star but he didn't lose anyone of value besides Vanek, who probably wasn't going to re-sign. Sekac looks solid and others look promising. The Habs finally have at least 3 RH Dmen.
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Post by christrpn on Sept 28, 2014 7:29:16 GMT -5
Pateryn, IMHO, is not ready. I have watched two live games and the other on my TV. Not only is he slightly noticeable, when I did notice him, it was for a mistake. When Tinordi satyed last year, It's because he left a mark. He was mean and nasty. Everything we wanted in our young defensman. Beaulieu got his chance mid-season, showed us what he could do. There,s no question what their roles are on this team. What type of defensman we want them to be. I have NO idea what Pateryn is able to do. He has the size to be physical yet the offensive punch, in the AHL, to be effective offensively. He need to define himself or he'll never make the NHL. I have seen nothing from him that says "WOW, this guy is what we need"
What do I know, I'm but a lonely Habs fans. I watched Darren Dietz in Quebec against the AVS. Nothing spectacular offensively or defensively. Which means, he mad no costly mistakes. Yet what I did notice, was him wanting to send a message to Jonston for running over DD. He does have a mean streak, saw it in Juniors with the blades. Played alongside Thrower. To bad guys like crisp and Thrower have been injured, would have loved to see them play.
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Post by Disp on Sept 28, 2014 8:21:56 GMT -5
Pateryn, IMHO, is not ready. I have watched two live games and the other on my TV. Not only is he slightly noticeable, when I did notice him, it was for a mistake. When Tinordi satyed last year, It's because he left a mark. He was mean and nasty. Everything we wanted in our young defensman. Beaulieu got his chance mid-season, showed us what he could do. There,s no question what their roles are on this team. What type of defensman we want them to be. I have NO idea what Pateryn is able to do. He has the size to be physical yet the offensive punch, in the AHL, to be effective offensively. He need to define himself or he'll never make the NHL. I have seen nothing from him that says "WOW, this guy is what we need" What do I know, I'm but a lonely Habs fans. I watched Darren Dietz in Quebec against the AVS. Nothing spectacular offensively or defensively. Which means, he mad no costly mistakes. Yet what I did notice, was him wanting to send a message to Jonston for running over DD. He does have a mean streak, saw it in Juniors with the blades. Played alongside Thrower. To bad guys like crisp and Thrower have been injured, would have loved to see them play. Dietz impressed me too. One play in particular caught my eye. An av chipped the puck by him on the rush. A quick turn, with no loss of speed, corralled the bouncing puck, and a nice crisp backhand cross ice pass to his partner for an easy out. Simple play, but it was under pressure, and some of our other dmen don't do it nearly as quickly. The forechecker is on them before they can make the same play, so they ring it around the backboards, it's a half second later so their partner has less time for a clean out and we spend the rest of the shift in our end. I think some of our young d just need time at the nhl level. Tinordi is the perfect example. He's struggled with every jump. He needs time to settle in and figure things out. Short term pain for long term gain. Need the organization to bite the bullet and be patient. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 28, 2014 11:01:05 GMT -5
It was a fun game to watch. Sekac has nice moves it'll be fun watching him all season long. I have not been impressed by Gilbert. ... he has struggled in the games I've watched
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 28, 2014 11:19:29 GMT -5
The Habs have depth. Bergevin didn't acquire an all-star but he didn't lose anyone of value besides Vanek, who probably wasn't going to re-sign. Sekac looks solid and others look promising. The Habs finally have at least 3 RH Dmen. I remember Bergevin saying at the end of last season that Vanek was brought in to make the playoffs and they had no intention of re-signing him ... I was kind of surprised to hear of that, but at the same time I look at what Bergevin has been doing in Montreal and it's like he had another plan all along ... Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 28, 2014 11:54:57 GMT -5
Pateryn, IMHO, is not ready. I have watched two live games and the other on my TV. Not only is he slightly noticeable, when I did notice him, it was for a mistake. When Tinordi satyed last year, It's because he left a mark. He was mean and nasty. Everything we wanted in our young defensman. Beaulieu got his chance mid-season, showed us what he could do. There,s no question what their roles are on this team. What type of defensman we want them to be. I have NO idea what Pateryn is able to do. He has the size to be physical yet the offensive punch, in the AHL, to be effective offensively. He need to define himself or he'll never make the NHL. I have seen nothing from him that says "WOW, this guy is what we need" What do I know, I'm but a lonely Habs fans. I watched Darren Dietz in Quebec against the AVS. Nothing spectacular offensively or defensively. Which means, he mad no costly mistakes. Yet what I did notice, was him wanting to send a message to Jonston for running over DD. He does have a mean streak, saw it in Juniors with the blades. Played alongside Thrower. To bad guys like crisp and Thrower have been injured, would have loved to see them play. I don't see Pateryn making the team mainly because the right side of the D is pretty much set ... but here's the thing; when I read "Pateryn is playing his way into the AHL" and it's only his second/third shift of the first period of the first preseason game, it suggests to me that there's a bias against him ... no positives and the negatives start practically when he laces up his skates ... if he is such a liability then he shouldn't even be on the ice and he's darn lucky that he's got a spot to go to in Hamilton ... that's what distances me from the faultfinding process on Pateryn ... unless he gets walked around by slick, little forward, or unless he's constantly chasing the puck in his end, I honestly don't know how to evaluate talent at that level ... who's he paired with? ... who's he playing against? ... these questions apply to every player on the ice, not just Pateryn, mind you ... having said that, I think he's got his work cut out for him ... Dietz and Nygren have impressed and I see Nygren in the mix some day ... Lernout is a few years away but he's doing what he has to to stay on the radar ... again, I don't see Pateryn making the club, but not because he's the most mistake-porn player in camp ... the right side of the D is pretty much set ... Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 28, 2014 13:02:14 GMT -5
Pateryn, IMHO, is not ready. I have watched two live games and the other on my TV. Not only is he slightly noticeable, when I did notice him, it was for a mistake. When Tinordi satyed last year, It's because he left a mark. He was mean and nasty. Everything we wanted in our young defensman. Beaulieu got his chance mid-season, showed us what he could do. There,s no question what their roles are on this team. What type of defensman we want them to be. I have NO idea what Pateryn is able to do. He has the size to be physical yet the offensive punch, in the AHL, to be effective offensively. He need to define himself or he'll never make the NHL. I have seen nothing from him that says "WOW, this guy is what we need" Not being noticeable for any one thing is not necessarily bad. Vancouver has a kid called Chris Tanev on defense who you just don't notice, yet he does a lot of things well. There's no wow with Tanev, but I'd take him on my team any time. On the Habs he'd be our 3rd best dman and defensively he might be our best. Not saying Pateryn is another Tanev, just that not being noticeable might be good. |
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Post by christrpn on Sept 28, 2014 16:29:41 GMT -5
Pateryn, IMHO, is not ready. I have watched two live games and the other on my TV. Not only is he slightly noticeable, when I did notice him, it was for a mistake. When Tinordi satyed last year, It's because he left a mark. He was mean and nasty. Everything we wanted in our young defensman. Beaulieu got his chance mid-season, showed us what he could do. There,s no question what their roles are on this team. What type of defensman we want them to be. I have NO idea what Pateryn is able to do. He has the size to be physical yet the offensive punch, in the AHL, to be effective offensively. He need to define himself or he'll never make the NHL. I have seen nothing from him that says "WOW, this guy is what we need" Not being noticeable for any one thing is not necessarily bad. Vancouver has a kid called Chris Tanev on defense who you just don't notice, yet he does a lot of things well. There's no wow with Tanev, but I'd take him on my team any time. On the Habs he'd be our 3rd best dman and defensively he might be our best. Not saying Pateryn is another Tanev, just that not being noticeable might be good. I'm saying that the only reason I notice Pateryn is when he makes a mistake. If he is average, and makes 2 mistakes a game, then that's a possibility of 2 goals. Subban makes mistakes, but you notice the good as well. Pateryn just hasn't made me think "WOW". Last pre-sesaon, he had 5 points if I'm not mistaken. That's noticeable. Last year Tinordi hit everything that moved. That's noticeable. What has Pateryn done so far that says he's ready to make the jump? |
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