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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 28, 2014 17:42:11 GMT -5
Just a little late getting the thread up ... better late than never ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 28, 2014 19:06:31 GMT -5
Well, something had to give ... Tinordi with a crushing check at the blueline but he laid his shoulder into the Caps' player's head ... he's out for the game but not before asserting himself well in a fight with Chris Brown ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 28, 2014 19:18:05 GMT -5
Price having a good game ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 28, 2014 19:28:55 GMT -5
Typical Barry Trotz game. Snore. (Haven't seen a minute of it, but a 0-0 score, while it can occasionally be a great game (Habs-Bruins, late 60's with Tony O in goal for the Habs) most times it's kinda dull. Attendance in Washington should drop to 1/2 of last year.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 28, 2014 19:31:38 GMT -5
1-0 Caps. Forechecking goal with a couple of bounces. (How else do Trotz teams score?)
So Tinner was trying to be 'noticeable' I guess with that earlier fight.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 28, 2014 19:38:09 GMT -5
1-0 Caps. Forechecking goal with a couple of bounces. (How else do Trotz teams score?) So Tinner was trying to be 'noticeable' I guess with that earlier fight. Too funny ... I had something similar but dropped it at the last minute ... if he wanted to get noticed then he did just that ... was hard seeing the whole fight because someone in the stands decided to stand right in front of the camera, but from what I did see Tinordi gave a good account of himself ... those were about the most noticeable events I've seen from our 'big three' ... a jarring check and a pretty good fight ... neither Beaulieu or Pateryn have done that so far ... oh yeah, the game ... that fight made it a little rougher than pond hockey I thought ... Price played well despite the score ... Cheers.
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 28, 2014 19:54:03 GMT -5
Snorefest. Those 1-0 games aren't my cup of tea. At least Price and Tinordi gave us some action. We tried not to lose but it didn't work. Only 4 shots on goal in the first period and not a single shot on goal on our first four PPs is nothing to write home about.
I don't believe Quintal will suspend Tinordi. There was no elbow, his feet didn't leave the ice, and it was a solid clean body check even if the head took some of the jolt. Tinordi should remain with the Habs for the whole season. When it comes to hitting and fighting, he's the best player on the team. That should earn him a regular spot ahead of Pateryn. He'll make a few mistakes learning to play in the NHL but that's normal.
He doesn't have to play 82 games. Just dress him for half the games especially against teams like the Bruins, the Leafs and the Flyers and it'll be better for him and for the team than sending him back to Hamilton where he has nothing more to learn.
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Post by blny on Sept 28, 2014 20:14:35 GMT -5
Snorefest. Those 1-0 games aren't my cup of tea. At least Price and Tinordi gave us some action. We tried not to lose but it didn't work. Only 4 shots on goal in the first period and not a single shot on goal on our first four PPs is nothing to write home about. I don't believe Quintal will suspend Tinordi. There was no elbow, his feet didn't leave the ice, and it was a solid clean body check even if the head took some of the jolt. I hope Parenteau will do better when the real season begins. What he has shown us so far in there pre-season gams isn't worth the $8M price tag over two years that came with his acquisition. I put little to no stock in the pre season, with the exception of trying to evaluate young players on the bubble. I remember a certain "Polish Prince" having a spectacular camp. He looked like he would be an offensive leader. Halfway into his first year, he was sent packing to Hamilton and then gone from the organization altogether.
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Post by blny on Sept 28, 2014 20:17:07 GMT -5
Saw video of Tinordi's hit. Loved it. Didn't think it was dirty, or necessarily predatory.
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Post by UberCranky on Sept 29, 2014 1:38:51 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with a killer name for Tinordi. So far.....TimeBomb....for his timed hits....or Terminator.....
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Post by Skilly on Sept 29, 2014 5:29:39 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with a killer name for Tinordi. So far.....TimeBomb....for his timed hits....or Terminator..... JT (NT) ,,,,,, Boom!!
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Post by BadCompany on Sept 29, 2014 6:38:47 GMT -5
Tinderbox?
From wikipedia:
"In conventional usage, the term "tinderbox" refers to something that is so dry that it could catch on fire with the slightest provocation, perhaps even spontaneously like a forest fire. It is also used to describe a potentially volatile or violent situation. For instance, a prison in which there is unrest and the potential for a riot could be said to be 'a tinderbox of violence'."
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Post by Polarice on Sept 29, 2014 8:22:08 GMT -5
Very boring game.....I hate trap hockey. Lets hope Tinordi can deliver one of those hits every game this year!!
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Post by blny on Sept 29, 2014 8:22:50 GMT -5
Very boring game.....I hate trap hockey. Lets hope Tinordi can deliver one of those hits every game this year!! Wonder what Ovi thinks of it?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 29, 2014 10:14:04 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with a killer name for Tinordi. So far.....TimeBomb....for his timed hits....or Terminator..... Okay, this is the kind of performance I've been expecting from young Tinordi ... up to this point all I've been hearing about is his potential and last night I saw that come out ... regardless, that hit plus the fight is probably the most impressive sequence by any of our blueliners in the preseason (include any name you want) ... imagine if he had scored the winner on top of all this ... I'm kind of reluctant giving him a nickname so soon ... if he sticks around he can count on being tested by again and again until he actually establishes himself ... the only thing I would have liked to see differently (other than scoring the winner) might have been Tinordi getting an opportunity like this earlier in the game ... in the regular season it might have changed the dynamic from pond hockey ... a nickname? ... well, as reluctant as I am about it, how about "Jarhead" ... hey, I looked at the hit again and that's what came to mind ... just out of interest, does this hit remind you of anything ... Cheers.
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Post by UberCranky on Sept 29, 2014 10:24:35 GMT -5
Big Bird 2? Or too early?
I like Terminator......
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Post by seventeen on Sept 29, 2014 11:13:15 GMT -5
That's exactly why I've been pumping him for a spot over Nathan and Pateryn and (Shudder) Bouillon. It's an aspect of the game we lack. Emelin can hit, but he can't fight like Tinordi. We need him there for balance. I suspect we'll have injuries sooner than later and I'd like to see both Beaulieu and Tinordi in the line-up regularly.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 29, 2014 11:19:00 GMT -5
Young Tinordi had 8:44 TOI last night ... I thought he had a good game despite his lack of playing time (what Therrien thinking about by keeping young players on the bench in the preseason, I do not know) ... he had a really good shift in the third which turned out to be an eye-opener ... yet, heaven forbid he should lose his next fight ... he'd go from being "Big Bird 2" to "Terry Harper" ... good luck to him ... I think Beaulieu is a lock and if they want to bring Jarhead aboard they'll have to make an opening ... injuries? Waiving a few veterans? ... dunno ...
Cheers.
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Post by frozone on Sept 29, 2014 11:48:33 GMT -5
Big Bird 2? Or too early? I like Terminator...... I like Tinasty Hopefully someday he will be feared enough that players won't ask him dance after each one of his hits. Chara never seems to have to answer to anyone. That's what fear does.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 29, 2014 12:09:34 GMT -5
Big Bird 2? Or too early? I like Terminator...... I like Tinasty Hopefully someday he will be feared enough that players won't ask him dance after each one of his hits. Chara never seems to have to answer to anyone. That's what fear does. Yes, once he gets recognized around the league, invitations will drop considerably. I thought that was a clean hit last night. If there was any contact to the head, it was only because Tinordi is 6'5" or 6'6", not because there was any intention to hit him in the head.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 29, 2014 12:20:09 GMT -5
Big Bird 2? Or too early? I like Terminator...... I like Tinasty Hopefully someday he will be feared enough that players won't ask him dance after each one of his hits. Chara never seems to have to answer to anyone. That's what fear does. If you're stuck on Terminator, try Tinordinator ... nah ... forget that ... Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 29, 2014 12:40:58 GMT -5
If that wasn't a "hockey play" then Butthead has ruined the game altogether. The age old expression is "keep your head up" particularly when you're carrying the puck charging straight ahead into the opponent's zone. Welcome to the NHL Schmidt! And Jarred should get himself an apartment in Mtl. We need this size an intimidation. Love the way he kept fighting after the Cap was prepared to stop. Jarred wasnt going through the motions of being required to answer for his hit. Someone wants to fight - "Let's go!". If Gilles Lupien could play 6th d man for the Habs then Jarred should easily fill that void - been too long.
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 29, 2014 12:43:05 GMT -5
We'll see what the league says but seems to me that Chara is always getting away with head shots, with his elbow no less, and claiming it's due to his height. Same should apply to Tinordi.
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Post by franko on Sept 29, 2014 13:02:42 GMT -5
until that hit the boys over at 690 were all over Tinordi for playing himself out of Montreal. this morning they're drooling over him being here.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 29, 2014 13:36:13 GMT -5
Tinderbox? From wikipedia: " In conventional usage, the term "tinderbox" refers to something that is so dry that it could catch on fire with the slightest provocation, perhaps even spontaneously like a forest fire. It is also used to describe a potentially volatile or violent situation. For instance, a prison in which there is unrest and the potential for a riot could be said to be 'a tinderbox of violence'."How about "The Tenderizer" Jarred "Tenderizer" Tinordi
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 29, 2014 13:52:11 GMT -5
Maybe we're looking too far for the name. Isn't "Jarred" a verb as well as a name; all depends on pronunciation and usage: "Jarred jarred Schmidt last night"!
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Post by flowerpower on Sept 29, 2014 14:22:53 GMT -5
Jarred Tinordi ejected for clean hit – but don’t be mad, Canadiens fans, he won't face any supplementary discipline. Adam Proteau - Post to Post / The Hockey News By: Adam Proteau on September 29, 2014 We’ve known for some time the NHL is at a crossroads when it comes to concussions and protecting the heads of players. In the past – and in putting the sport ahead of those who participate in it – the league has had a default position of giving aggressive players the benefit of the doubt on borderline actions. But maybe things are starting to change for the better. And that’s because we’re starting to see the other side of that spectrum: referees making headshot-related calls that err on the side of caution. Such was the case Sunday night, when Canadiens defenseman Jarred Tinordi was ejected in the third period of Montreal’s game against Washington after he hit Capitals forward Nate Schmidt at the Habs blueline: Although some argued Tinordi’s hit was dirty, closer examination – at least, by this viewer – shows Tinordi hit Schmidt cleanly. Tinordi – who, at 6-foot-6, is a full half-foot taller than the 6-foot-tall Schmidt – isn’t reckless with his body or targeting his opponent’s head. Schmidt, on the other hand, is so busy trying to dump the puck into Montreal’s zone, he never looks up to see Tinordi is about to check him. With the benefit of slow-motion video replay, it’s clear Tinordi shouldn’t have been tossed out of the game. But ask yourself this: for the good of the game and the long-and-short-term health of athletes, would you rather the referees make these types of choices, or return to their more regular practice of allowing dangerous-looking hits to happen without any punishment? Personally, I’d prefer the officials take a less-forgiving approach. They’re never going to get to a point where they eject all players simply for hard checks – so let’s nip that straw man argument in the bud right here and now – but their actions need to show players that, in any situation where they’re considering taking aggressive moves against an opponent, they have to show some modicum of restraint and control or risk being unable to help their team for at least the rest of the game and perhaps longer. This is the only way the game’s gatekeepers are going to effect meaningful change among the players. If that means the occasional player is sent to the showers after a clean hit, I’m OK with it. Because it sure beats the old system, where players had to more or less decapitate an opponent to be ejected. Hockey can no longer abide that type of approach to athlete safety. So, while Canadiens fans have a right to be upset with the call, they need to understand what the philosophy behind those types of calls will do for a Montreal player down the line. Maybe P.K. Subban doesn’t get blindsided because of it. Maybe Max Pacioretty avoids a reckless elbow because his opponent saw what happens to NHLers who don’t take an extra second or two to consider what they’re doing on the ice. The Tinordi call didn’t benefit the Canadiens Sunday, but the youngster won’t face any supplementary discipline for the hit. But those who would use an incorrect call like this one to argue against a headshot crackdown are fixating on trees when they ought to be taking the larger view of the forest. www.thehockeynews.com/blog/jarred-tinordi-ejected-for-clean-hit-but-dont-be-mad-canadiens-fans/
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Post by blny on Sept 29, 2014 14:30:15 GMT -5
IMO, you can never justify the wrongful ejection of a player. The ref had no business throwing him out. Tinordi's shoulder never made contact with the head, and his elbow contacted squarely on the crest of the jersey. It's a textbook, clean, open ice hit. You can't teach it better than that. It was a knee jerk reaction on the result of a clean hit from a ref out of position. Oh, and why did the referee in the Habs zone not raise his arm? Talk about a situation where a coach's challenge would come in handy.
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Post by Polarice on Sept 29, 2014 14:38:31 GMT -5
They don't mention the 5 min PP the Habs had to kill off.
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Post by PTH on Sept 29, 2014 15:11:36 GMT -5
I agree with the article... though of course it stings to have a wrong call against us, I'd rather have overzealous refs than the "laissez-faire" attitude we've seen for far too long.
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