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Post by CentreHice on Oct 9, 2014 21:21:08 GMT -5
Wonder if this guy is a season ticket holder...and getting tired of seeing the Habs win.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 21:23:55 GMT -5
After the first period, I thought the Caps were going to coast to another shutout win. They've been getting more than their fair share. But the Habs climbed out of their hole and managed to push it into OT.
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Post by 24in93 on Oct 9, 2014 21:30:00 GMT -5
Didn't extend my PVR recording time so it cut out halfway through OT. Glad to see they got the win. They definitely turned the tide after that 1st period. Galchenyuk and Pleky seem to be developing some nice chemistry.
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Post by UberCranky on Oct 9, 2014 21:33:07 GMT -5
TOKER FIRST STAR....TRADE JESUS.....
*stirs pot*
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Post by HFTO on Oct 9, 2014 21:34:43 GMT -5
Tokarski made people forget Budaj quick boys picked it up especially in the third...good to see Eller finally pick it up Bourque was good too. Galchenyuk is on the cusp and Pleks is thriving with a first rate player on his line....might be early to put Sekac up there but thas where he might break out offensively I like Gallagher with 51 and 67 and PA on the third line.
Hasn't been pretty but its about finding ways to win especially on the road back to back.
Go Habs
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 9, 2014 21:36:04 GMT -5
You can easily attribute the "sluggish" first period to a few things.
1. We played last night. 2. Home opener for the Caps. 3. Caps eager to play well for their new coach.
We got it together, and played a solid game for the final 45.
Can't complain about back-to-back road Ws to start the season.
Philly lost 6-4 to the Devils in their home opener tonight.
Gotta jump all over them on Saturday.
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Post by blny on Oct 9, 2014 21:40:31 GMT -5
Habs 2 Chris Lee 1.
Another terrible first. Dead legs.
Second was better.
Third was better than second.
Best players for me were: Tokarski, Plekanec, Galchenyuk, Bourque.
Worst: Subban, Pacioretty
I thought to two stick infractions the Habs took earlier in the game were horrible calls. They're made even worse when you try and count the number of hits from behind that the Caps committed. I was beginning to think they'd never get called for it, until Backstrom did in the third.
The disallowed goal grinds my gears. Bourque was clearly steered into the crease. His stance is fairly wide, and it's not exactly easy to adjust that, to get a leg out of Holtby's way. IMO, that should have counted.
I watched the Sportsnet 360 broadcast. John Bartlett calls a decent game. Made a classy remark to start the game mentioning that it was the 62nd anniversary of Gallivan's first game for the Canadiens. York struggled all game in my opinion. From tripping over his words, to poor insights, I thought he brought the show down a bit.
On to Philly.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 9, 2014 21:42:49 GMT -5
Four points on the road to open the season ... thought the guys did well recovering from another event but that first period concerned me ... if it weren't for Toker son of one of the Doobie Bros it might have been over soon ... Bourque, Pelkanec, Galchenyuk all had good games ... honourable mention to Desharnais ... he's small but he works hard at both ends of the rink ... thought the fourth line worked well tonight and we saw them actually finish regulation time ... thought some of the d looked a bit lethargic ... Markov had a few giveaways tonight ... seen Subban play better, too ... Gilbert is very noticeable tonight ... the Caps were effective in checking Pacioretty tonight ... good team win tonight, though ... they now know they're capable of coming back when need be ...
Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 9, 2014 21:46:28 GMT -5
Was Jason York the colour-man with Bartlett on radio last year as well? I thought he got better as the game went on....but hey...if Greg "Capt. Obvious" Millen can keep a colour job....and PJ Stock is still an analyst...
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 9, 2014 21:49:39 GMT -5
good team win tonight, though ... they now know they're capable of coming back when need be ... Cheers. Good point, Dis! Both wins were from down a goal entering the second period.
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Post by franko on Oct 9, 2014 21:54:16 GMT -5
The disallowed goal grinds my gears. Bourque was clearly steered into the crease. His stance is fairly wide, and it's not exactly easy to adjust that, to get a leg out of Holtby's way. IMO, that should have counted. I'm iffy on that one. sure Bourque was steered -- not pushed, steered. and he made absolutely no effort to get out of the way, just kept cruising with a "who, me?" face. even if he'da leaned away he coulda sold it. but he's used to playing with no effort, so why worry?
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Post by madhabber on Oct 9, 2014 22:59:52 GMT -5
The disallowed goal grinds my gears. Bourque was clearly steered into the crease. His stance is fairly wide, and it's not exactly easy to adjust that, to get a leg out of Holtby's way. IMO, that should have counted. I'm iffy on that one. sure Bourque was steered -- not pushed, steered. and he made absolutely no effort to get out of the way, just kept cruising with a "who, me?" face. even if he'da leaned away he coulda sold it. but he's used to playing with no effort, so why worry? And if the ref hadn't caught that, the goal would have been good and we would have won in regulation instead. Good play in my books as long as it isn't obvious or done too often so that a penalty is called.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 10, 2014 1:09:29 GMT -5
Better team won AGAIN! We have too ugh talent. The lines, including the PP aren't even clicking yet but the skating and individual efforts from so many different players is the most we've had in a some time.
PK not a strong game and not a smart game. Long shifts and dumb plays.
Having Maholtra is such a relief on these d end face offs. And he's a smart player and still skates well! Great addition! Frees up Pleks and we're seeing what he can do offensively we some offensive line mates.
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Post by blny on Oct 10, 2014 6:00:46 GMT -5
The disallowed goal grinds my gears. Bourque was clearly steered into the crease. His stance is fairly wide, and it's not exactly easy to adjust that, to get a leg out of Holtby's way. IMO, that should have counted. I'm iffy on that one. sure Bourque was steered -- not pushed, steered. and he made absolutely no effort to get out of the way, just kept cruising with a "who, me?" face. even if he'da leaned away he coulda sold it. but he's used to playing with no effort, so why worry? With the benefit of slow motion, it gives the illusion that Bourque has lots of time to make an adjustment. Real time, he's going for the front for a screen/distraction. He has no intention of touching the goalie. If you're skating forwards, and get pushed off course, it takes time to get back on track. It's even more so go backwards (especially when you're not a defender who's used to spending half the game going backwards). I'd argue that it's just as likely, if not more, that the Caps defender pushed him in to that path intentionally. Bourque is allowed to skate through that area. If a defender pushes him, and that push results in contact it's no different than if he tackles him into the goalie.
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Post by jkr on Oct 10, 2014 6:26:23 GMT -5
I'm iffy on that one. sure Bourque was steered -- not pushed, steered. and he made absolutely no effort to get out of the way, just kept cruising with a "who, me?" face. even if he'da leaned away he coulda sold it. but he's used to playing with no effort, so why worry? With the benefit of slow motion, it gives the illusion that Bourque has lots of time to make an adjustment. Real time, he's going for the front for a screen/distraction. He has no intention of touching the goalie. If you're skating forwards, and get pushed off course, it takes time to get back on track. It's even more so go backwards (especially when you're not a defender who's used to spending half the game going backwards). I'd argue that it's just as likely, if not more, that the Caps defender pushed him in to that path intentionally. Bourque is allowed to skate through that area. If a defender pushes him, and that push results in contact it's no different than if he tackles him into the goalie. Lee was terrible. Not just the disallowed goal & the his call of the game - but he also called Bourque's shot a goal when it clearly hit the post. In the race to the bottom Lee is still ahead of Tim Peel but it's close.
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Post by BadCompany on Oct 10, 2014 6:51:46 GMT -5
I watched the Sportsnet 360 broadcast. John Bartlett calls a decent game. Made a classy remark to start the game mentioning that it was the 62nd anniversary of Gallivan's first game for the Canadiens. York struggled all game in my opinion. From tripping over his words, to poor insights, I thought he brought the show down a bit. On to Philly. Bartlett was the Habs play-by-play radio guy for the Team 690, before getting the promotion to TV. I've always liked him, thought he calls a good game, has a pleasant and enjoyable personality. I hope he does well on TV. Back-to-back home openers is tough to do, and I heard that the team only got into Washington around 3am. Not an excuse for the hang-on-sloopy first period, but the schedule makers certainly didn't do us any favors. Screw them though, we got the four points! Some random thoughts: * I agreed with disallowing the goal. It certainly wasn't vicious, but I don't think Bourque made ANY attempt to get out of the way. Maybe if he had of flamingo-ed a leg or something then the refs would have thought he was pushed in and trying to avoid contact, but from the way I saw it Bourque was steered in, and gladly went. I thought it was a good call, but rather than blame Bourque I'll say good on him for going to the net. * Subban played his worst game in a real long time. Despite everything that he says, I think he may be trying to do too much. * Gilbert looked much better than against Toronto if you ask me. As did Weaver, though not by as much in my opinion. * Alex Galchenyuk is going to be a superstar. He is becoming so smooth, so confident with the puck. You could always see the skill, but now you see the confidence. He's not riding Tomas Plekanec's coattails - Plekanec is riding his. That shootout goal... Jesus... * What can you say about Tokarski? How about this; last year in the playoffs I thought he was very scrambly at times. Last night he looked much more poised, much more in position. Very Carey Price-like actually. Was he always like that, or is Stephane Waite that good? * Kudos to Brandon Prust. He may not win many fights, but I don't think too many guys like fighting him. It's not Tom Kostopoulos where you get the easy wins. You knock Prust down and he's just going to keep coming back at you. I think that if you had of looked at the schedule to start the year and saw that we had three games in four nights, all on the road, with two of them being home-openers for the opposing team, then I think most people would be happy with two wins. Mission accomplished. Now they've got a chance to take the first three, despite not playing their best game for a full 60 minutes yet. Looking good, looking good...
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 10, 2014 7:03:27 GMT -5
Was Jason York the colour-man with Bartlett on radio last year as well? I thought he got better as the game went on....but hey...if Greg "Capt. Obvious" Millen can keep a colour job....and PJ Stock is still an analyst... When York was on Ottawa radio he absolutely hated the Habs and hated PK. Now he'll do colour for Habs games?
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 10, 2014 7:08:59 GMT -5
I watched the Sportsnet 360 broadcast. John Bartlett calls a decent game. Made a classy remark to start the game mentioning that it was the 62nd anniversary of Gallivan's first game for the Canadiens. York struggled all game in my opinion. From tripping over his words, to poor insights, I thought he brought the show down a bit. On to Philly. Bartlett was the Habs play-by-play radio guy for the Team 690, before getting the promotion to TV. I've always liked him, thought he calls a good game, has a pleasant and enjoyable personality. I hope he does well on TV. Back-to-back home openers is tough to do, and I heard that the team only got into Washington around 3am. Not an excuse for the hang-on-sloopy first period, but the schedule makers certainly didn't do us any favors. Screw them though, we got the four points! Some random thoughts: * I agreed with disallowing the goal. It certainly wasn't vicious, but I don't think Bourque made ANY attempt to get out of the way. Maybe he if he of flamingo-ed a leg or something then the refs would have thought he was pushed in and trying to avoid contact, but from the way I saw it Bourque was steered in, and gladly went. I thought it was a good call, but rather than blame Bourque I'll say good on him for going to the net. * Subban played his worst game in a real long time. Despite everything that he says, I think he may be trying to do too much. * Gilbert looked much better than against Toronto if you ask me. As did Weaver, though not by as much in my opinion. * Alex Galchenyuk is going to be a superstar. He is becoming so smooth, so confident with the puck. You could always see the skill, but now you see the confidence. He's not riding Tomas Plekanec's coattails - Plekanec is riding his. That shootout goal... Jesus... * What can you say about Tokarski? How about this; last year in the playoffs I thought he was very scrambly at times. Last night he looked much more poised, much more in position. Very Carey Price-like actually. Was he always like that, or is Stephane Waite that good? * Kudos to Brandon Prust. He may not win many fights, but I don't think too many guys like fighting him. It's not Tom Kostopoulos where you get the easy wins. You knock Prust down and he's just going to keep coming back at you. I think that if you had of looked at the schedule to start the year and saw that we had three games in four nights, all on the road, with two of them being home-openers for the opposing team, then I think most people would be happy with two wins. Mission accomplished. Now they've got a chance to take the first three, despite not playing their best game for a full 60 minutes yet. Looking good, looking good... Bartlett also did the TSN Habs broadcasts as well, with Sergio Mommesso last year. I really like his call ... Haaaaaabbbbbbssssss Win! ear.
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Post by franko on Oct 10, 2014 7:16:54 GMT -5
Was Jason York the colour-man with Bartlett on radio last year as well? I thought he got better as the game went on....but hey...if Greg "Capt. Obvious" Millen can keep a colour job....and PJ Stock is still an analyst... When York was on Ottawa radio he absolutely hated the Habs and hated PK. Now he'll do colour for Habs games? I must have heard a different Jason York. I heard him talk positively about the Habs a number of times -- and mock Sens fans who thought that the Habs were bad.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 10, 2014 8:01:19 GMT -5
I'm iffy on that one. sure Bourque was steered -- not pushed, steered. and he made absolutely no effort to get out of the way, just kept cruising with a "who, me?" face. even if he'da leaned away he coulda sold it. but he's used to playing with no effort, so why worry? With the benefit of slow motion, it gives the illusion that Bourque has lots of time to make an adjustment. Real time, he's going for the front for a screen/distraction. He has no intention of touching the goalie. If you're skating forwards, and get pushed off course, it takes time to get back on track. It's even more so go backwards (especially when you're not a defender who's used to spending half the game going backwards). I'd argue that it's just as likely, if not more, that the Caps defender pushed him in to that path intentionally. Bourque is allowed to skate through that area. If a defender pushes him, and that push results in contact it's no different than if he tackles him into the goalie. Not really. I have no problem with the goal being disallowed. The problem I have with it, is would Chris Lee have made the same call if it was on Tokarski? I saw it a few times, and I agree I do not believe it was intentional. But, under the rule, that doesn't matter. And the ref agreed it wasnt intentional, thats why Bourque didn't get a penalty. We benefited from this rule a few times last playoffs, and even the announcers were praising Price for knowing the rule so well to lean into forwards while attempting the save. That's what Holtby did. He saw Bourque, he kicked his leg out to initiate contact, and it was correctly called back because the goalie is allowed to initiate contact, in the course of making a save. If he does so, it isn't a penalty on the player, but it isnt a goal. We, as Habs fans, cant have our cake and eat it too ...
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Post by Gogie on Oct 10, 2014 8:04:48 GMT -5
With the benefit of slow motion, it gives the illusion that Bourque has lots of time to make an adjustment. Real time, he's going for the front for a screen/distraction. He has no intention of touching the goalie. If you're skating forwards, and get pushed off course, it takes time to get back on track. It's even more so go backwards (especially when you're not a defender who's used to spending half the game going backwards). I'd argue that it's just as likely, if not more, that the Caps defender pushed him in to that path intentionally. Bourque is allowed to skate through that area. If a defender pushes him, and that push results in contact it's no different than if he tackles him into the goalie. Not really. I have no problem with the goal being disallowed. The problem I have with it, is would Chris Lee have made the same call if it was on Tokarski? I saw it a few times, and I agree I do not believe it was intentional. But, under the rule, that doesn't matter. And the ref agreed it wasnt intentional, thats why Bourque didn't get a penalty. We benefited from this rule a few times last playoffs, and even the announcers were praising Price for knowing the rule so well to lean into forwards while attempting the save. That's what Holtby did. He saw Bourque, he kicked his leg out to initiate contact, and it was correctly called back because the goalie is allowed to initiate contact, in the course of making a save. If he does so, it isn't a penalty on the player, but it isnt a goal. We, as Habs fans, cant have our cake and eat it too ... This^^^ Good call, but he's still a bad ref.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 10, 2014 8:21:05 GMT -5
He's had that move(s) for a while. Glad to see it in a real game! The last goal in this sequence @ a previous Habs' camp. And another:
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 10, 2014 8:23:39 GMT -5
He's had that move(s) for a bit. The last goal in this sequence @ Habs' camp last year. Pretty much identical. Alex Galchenyuk... man of a million moves.... This kid will be a treat to watch for a long, long time.
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Post by Polarice on Oct 10, 2014 8:30:04 GMT -5
Back to back games where the Habs didn't play their best hockey, and we come away with two wins!! That's what we have been waiting for, games where we play OK and win, instead of loosing.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 10, 2014 8:30:18 GMT -5
The only thing a goalie can do there is guess with a poke check.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2014 9:55:42 GMT -5
Hopefully, Alex adjusts too. Other teams will have the same video and goalies will be anticipating that move. Go backhand next time, or just shoot early. Keep em guessing. Patrick Kane's goal against Dallas yesterday was a different one than I've seen him use before. He has so many, you can't key on any one. Remember Koivu's move? It never changed....and didn't work as well eventually. No question that waving off Parenteau's goal was the right thing. Holtby was completely prevented from setting himself by Bourque. If Ovie had done that to Toker, we'd be screaming bloody murder. We're not always the golden boys (though we are most of the time I liked the PLeks, Galchy, Sekac combination. It's a bit faster than with Gallagher on that line and they play a more similar type of game. Sekac is very responsible defensively, and his anticipation is really good. I'm liking him a lot and I hope he gets his first goal soon. With Galchenyuk on that line, it's quite possible it will happen next game. I'm not surprised how much Galchy's raised his game. You could see flashes of it in the playoffs last year and that was after coming back from a leg injury. He got his points by going to the dirty areas in those games, so once again, it was an important sign. What has impressed me, is the level of his strength this year. He doesn't get pinned or knocked off the puck so easily. He's bulling his way through a check, leaving the guy sprawled on the ice or off balance behind him. Nothing breaks down opposing defenses like a guy who beats his check one on one. It's really unfortunate Galchy didn't score after undressing Niskanen. That would have been a TSN highlight all year. More to come, surely (drool). Pleks is a different guy offensively, huh? Malhotra's appearance has really energized him. Those aren't cheap goals he's scored. They've been skill goals. The patience on the breakaway goal and the picking of the opening last night were both high skill examples. You could see him aim for that spot yesterday, the way he followed through. It was no fluke. And Galchy's pass to him was exquisite. Going to be a fun year! Let's keep those injuries down. Speaking of injuries, Emelin was hurt last night, possibly opening the door for Tinordi. Pair him with Gilbert? I wonder if the team has nicknamed Gilbert "Rod"? AS has been noted, he was much improved against Washington. One real skill he has is knowing when to jump into the play. I've seen that in exhibition and now last night again. It really puts pressure on the opposition and should lead to more goals scored for us. I might not be planning the parade yet, but I'd be oiling the wheels on the floats, for sure.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 10, 2014 9:57:57 GMT -5
* Kudos to Brandon Prust. He may not win many fights, but I don't think too many guys like fighting him. It's not Tom Kostopoulos where you get the easy wins. You knock Prust down and he's just going to keep coming back at you. Prust reminds me of a 60's-style of hockey player ... he pots the odd goal, he can take care of himself and is always the first in a scrum to help his mates ... he won't score 50 goals, or 20 for that matter, but he's a leader (whether he has a letter on his jersey or not) ... Cheers.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Oct 10, 2014 12:22:25 GMT -5
Was I the only one watching the game with the increasing uneasy feeling that Orpiks was eventually going to succeed sending someone to the clinic?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 10, 2014 12:24:11 GMT -5
Was I the only one watching the game with the increasing uneasy feeling that Orpiks was eventually going to succeed sending someone to the clinic? Me too, he was head hunting all night.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 10, 2014 12:26:19 GMT -5
Probably just a reiteration of what I was saying earlier, but did anyone else noticed how big Bourque and Gilbert looked last night ... like Pacioretty against Toronto, they were very noticeable last night against Washington ...
Cheers.
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