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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 16, 2014 21:29:06 GMT -5
Six goals against the Bruins ... not bad ... I don't know if Stephan Quintal had anything to say to the two teams prior to the game, but the Bruins weren't all that physical at all tonight ... Lucic looked like he was skating on very thin ice practically the whole game ... I actually feel a bit bad for Rene Bourque ... even when the guy is open the puck just doesn't cooperate ... Brendan Gallagher with a huge effort ... work hard and you create your own bounces ... Sekac's girlfriend is, well, hot ... hopefully this is the goal he needs to break the ice and score a few more ...
Cheers.
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Post by UberCranky on Oct 16, 2014 21:33:34 GMT -5
This is a great win. It brushes away any questions about grit snd depth.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 16, 2014 21:34:31 GMT -5
The Sekac family will be celebrating tonight.
Marchand and Lucic both played key parts in their loss.
Marchand for the Subban separator when they were up 3-2...Lucic on Emelin late to seal it.
Karma worked out tonight.
But we've got lots of work to do, even though we're 4-1-0.
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Post by blny on Oct 16, 2014 21:34:58 GMT -5
Wasn't pretty, again. I'd say it was closer to a complete game, but still work to do.
Some down right crazy bounces at both ends.
The good: Emelin. More of that. #1 line was strong. Parenteau gets his shot off in a hurry. He's a better skating Ryder in a lot of ways. Sekac. He's a gamer. Not afraid of the rough stuff. Gilbert was smooth. Good plays and decisions more often than not. Malhotra and the 4th line. Some good momentum shifts. Key faceoff wins.
The bad: Boston was working angled passes for tips in front for the first 30 minutes. Our guys weren't adjusting, and weren't taking sticks away. Plekanec was shy all night. Avoiding contact, and bailed on a few. I thought he was the weak link on that line tonight. Price still not getting enough help. He made a lot of great saves in the first 30 minutes. The only goal he really should have had was the last one. Gotta squeeze that one.
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Post by Disp on Oct 16, 2014 21:37:10 GMT -5
Always awesome to stick it to the b's. Scoring our way out of trouble, it's entertaining, but they have to tighten things up.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 16, 2014 21:38:50 GMT -5
I thought we were the tougher team tonight. Definitely out hit them. As usual they out cheap shot us. No question we are in Rask's head.
shouldn't have been such a nail biter. Bruins had little push back. Pretty upset with the reffing when we made it 5-3. Two blatant B's penalties not called because of the score.
Bottom line: Bs don't worry me anymore. Chara is old. Marchand's still a punk and Lucy is just plain stupid. Who else do they have? No show Krecji? Or, kick 'em in Gagne?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 16, 2014 21:46:20 GMT -5
Bottom line: Bs don't worry me anymore. This is one of the expectations I have for this club this year ... the Bruins are still a good team but we've been in their heads for quite a while now ... I can't see them winning the division this year ... Cheers.
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Post by 24andcounting on Oct 16, 2014 21:53:28 GMT -5
Looks like Lucic didn't suddenly become a MENSA candidate over the summer. Some things never changed.
Great game, lots of positives. I agree Dis, they're not as scary as before. That said, they haven't yet found their footing. They look a lot different with confidence.
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Post by blny on Oct 16, 2014 21:55:06 GMT -5
habsorbed, you're right. We definitely out hit them. Emelin set the tone, and Pacioretty had a good hit in first too. I love that Galchenyuk finishes his checks.
Habs only play them 3 more times this year, all the second of back to back nights for Boston. They not the threat they used to be, but they're still dangerous. I figure the first game in Boston will be a real gong show.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 16, 2014 22:00:20 GMT -5
This is a great win. It brushes away any questions about grit snd depth. I smell facetiousness at work here.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 16, 2014 22:08:58 GMT -5
Not pretty, but none of the wins have been yet. Big difference mentally from being 4-1 and 3-2 right now. Time to keep working on those warts.
Gally, Emelin and Sekac had good games. Pretty special for the whole Sekac crew to be here to see it. I like his upside if he keeps it going.
But at the end of the night...we beat the Bs!!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 16, 2014 22:15:11 GMT -5
Always awesome to stick it to the b's. Scoring our way out of trouble, it's entertaining, but they have to tighten things up. Was thinking the same thing about cutting down on the GA ... if it wasn't for that blowout in Tampa the GA wouldn't look as bad, but I do feel we're giving up too many goals ... wouldn't be half-bad if we scored five/six goals a game, but we're not that kind of club ... tonight there seemed to be an ebb and flow to the game ... the ice continually tilted one way or other ... but, hey, we beat the Bruins and scored six goals on them ... works for me ... Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 16, 2014 23:41:21 GMT -5
I actually feel a bit bad for Rene Bourque ... even when the guy is open the puck just doesn't cooperate ... He's never had good hand eye coordination. It shows up constantly all game. I wonder if they should have his eyes checked. Some contacts might help him a lot. Or not. Maybe he just has lousy hand eye coordination. Compare him to Galchy, who chipped that puck out along the boards to allow PA to score on the empty net. Bourque could never have done that. We'd still be in our zone if he was on the ice in that situations. I strongly suspect MT and MB are keeping him in the line-up to attract some dumb suitor. It would help if he'd do his part and score, though. Just a very inefficient player, Rene. Once in a long while, the puck bounces for him and he looks good. The rest of the time, he's a black hole for whatever line he's on.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 16, 2014 23:46:32 GMT -5
This is a great win. It brushes away any questions about grit snd depth. I think it says a bit less about our grit and a bit more about the changes in the Bruins. They're not tough anymore, they're not deep anymore, their goaltending is average and they're just not that good. I was actually disappointed in our result. Four goals against? That's pathetic, especially against a Boston team that's had trouble scoring. We have got to tighten up. Carey made some good saves and got some bad bounces. Why the heck did PK try and shovel the puck back into him (on the 4th Boston goal) instead of just clearing it into the corner? I don't get that. I also don't think we're generating enough clear chances. We scored some ugly goals today, (which is good), but I'd like to see some pretty goals too. Parenteau's were the only ones I'd class as skillful. The rest were just bounces. Thank god we own Rask.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 16, 2014 23:52:37 GMT -5
I keep paying a lot of attention to Tinordi because I think he could be a really important piece for us in the future. He looked ok today. He made a few gaffes, but nothing that cost us and he repaid his teammates with some good blocks and puck clears, as well as moving the puck reasonably well. He'll have to work on that move of his coming out of his zone, where he fakes and goes outside. He's been stickchecked a few times, so it appears the opposition knows what he'll do. Either he blocks with his body a bit more, swings wider when he can, or just bulls over a few guys occasionally to keep them thinking and to be less aggressive checking him. Whichever, JJ should be coaching him on how to improve on that aspect. I thin his progression is moving along, though. He'll be a capable #5 by seasons end and a definite # 3/4 by the end of next season.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 17, 2014 0:13:56 GMT -5
Another interesting stat to keep in mind is our face-off percentage, which was never good against Boston, due to their having good faceoff men. With Malhotra taking faceoffs against Bergeron, everone else gets to move down a slot and what happens? Tonight we were 39 out of 70 or 55.7%, against one of the best faceoff teams in the league. Pleks was 61%, Malhotra 59% (up against Bergeron for many faceoffs!), Eller 58% and DD trailed with only 47%. A really important facet that doesn't get enough attention. We owned them today in the face-off circle.
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Post by 24andcounting on Oct 17, 2014 0:26:11 GMT -5
Any suspension coming for Lucic for his "gesture"? Surely that won't be tolerated?
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 17, 2014 1:47:34 GMT -5
Any suspension coming for Lucic for his "gesture"? Surely that won't be tolerated? Speaking of classless. What about Marchand's scrotum hoister on PK. Didn't Lucy do the same thing to PK or Emelin last year - altho more of a spear? Who are these guys? And then the ref calls PK for embellishment. I can only assume the refs got no gonads. That was a joke. I say we let PK do it to the ref and see if the ref stays on his feet.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2014 6:34:25 GMT -5
Another interesting stat to keep in mind is our face-off percentage, which was never good against Boston, due to their having good faceoff men. With Malhotra taking faceoffs against Bergeron, everone else gets to move down a slot and what happens? Tonight we were 39 out of 70 or 55.7%, against one of the best faceoff teams in the league. Pleks was 61%, Malhotra 59% (up against Bergeron for many faceoffs!), Eller 58% and DD trailed with only 47%. A really important facet that doesn't get enough attention. We owned them today in the face-off circle. How true 17, that really helped in our D zone and allowed us to control the puck rather than get hemmed in like last year.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2014 6:38:55 GMT -5
Any suspension coming for Lucic for his "gesture"? Surely that won't be tolerated? Speaking of classless. What about Marchand's scrotum hoister on PK. Didn't Lucy do the same thing to PK or Emelin last year - altho more of a spear? Who are these guys? And then the ref calls PK for embellishment. I can only assume the refs got no gonads. That was a joke. I say we let PK do it to the ref and see if the ref stays on his feet. Nothing will happen to either... It was PKs fault because he tried to jump over Marchand's stick while Marchand was trying to salute the montreal fans and for Lucy he had an equipment malfunction. The NHL has never had any class and they allow this Saperlipopette to go on in games... what would happen to a player in one of the other leagues if they gave the opposing fans the finger? I think you fight fire with fire and a Hab should give the B's fans the finger... let's see how the B's fans like that
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Post by BadCompany on Oct 17, 2014 7:09:45 GMT -5
Speaking of classless. What about Marchand's scrotum hoister on PK. Didn't Lucy do the same thing to PK or Emelin last year - altho more of a spear? Who are these guys? And then the ref calls PK for embellishment. I can only assume the refs got no gonads. That was a joke. I say we let PK do it to the ref and see if the ref stays on his feet. Nothing will happen to either... It was PKs fault because he tried to jump over Marchand's stick while Marchand was trying to salute the montreal fans and for Lucy he had an equipment malfunction. The NHL has never had any class and they allow this Saperlipopette to go on in games... what would happen to a player in one of the other leagues if they gave the opposing fans the finger? I think you fight fire with fire and a Hab should give the B's fans the finger... let's see how the B's fans like that If PK Subban were to have a "glove malfunction" in Boston he'd be lucky to get out of the city alive, and for sure he'd get suspended. Just like James Wisnieswki was for his misinterpretation of the universal sign for choking. Or any other player would be for the blatant attempts to injure that both Lucic and Marchand are becoming quite known for (embellishment?? really??). But I would expect a couple hundred dollar fine for each player, if that. I mean, Lucic is just a Clarence Carter fan, and Marchand will simply deny ever having speared Subban, and claim that there are no TV replays that show that he did. Right? RIGHT?? Have no fear folks, the evil empire is on the decline. It's far from being dead, but it's on it's way. Really enjoyed the game last night. We are far from being a perfect team, but as Bergevin himself said we are not an elite team. Yet. Some people got upset when he said that, but I agree with him, and even if he was simply trying to manage the expectations in a "first we have to make the playoffs" kind of way he's still right. We're not an elite team, in the Chicago, LA, or even St. Louis category. But we're getting there. 4-1, our special teams still suck, and honestly I don't think our All-World goalie has been All-World just yet. He hasn't been Bell-Center-Rask, don't get me wrong, but he just seems a little... off. To me anyways. And the defense still makes me shudder sometimes. Still no crease clearer. But we're getting there. There are times, and it's happened in every game so far this year, where one line or another has just hemmed the opposition in, and cycled, and cycled, and cycled. Controlling the play. Doesn't happen every shift of course (no team can do that), but it's going to start happening more and more. And when that happens, then we will be an elite team. Can't say there were too many passengers last night. I'm smiling.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 17, 2014 7:26:47 GMT -5
Wisniewski got two games for his gesture at Avery….I'm thinking at least a game for doing that to the crowd. That's pretty graphic. Lucic will say it was a "lower body gesture". "Adjusting my cup" before raising the Cup. But it'll be the usual chump change fine….same for Marchand, if anything comes of that at all. There's gotta be a .gif of his separator somewhere online.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2014 7:45:38 GMT -5
I found this real good post on Hockey I/O
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 17, 2014 7:46:48 GMT -5
Wisniewski got two games for his gesture at Avery….I'm thinking at least a game for doing that to the crowd. That's pretty graphic. Lucic will say it was a "lower body gesture". "Adjusting my cup" before raising the Cup. But it'll be the usual chump change fine….same for Marchand, if anything comes of that at all. There's gotta be a .gif of his separator somewhere online.
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Post by Gogie on Oct 17, 2014 8:05:43 GMT -5
Haven't seen anyone else mention it, so I will. PK's "embellishment" call needs to be reviewed and rescinded. Accumulating embellishment penalties does have consequences. Speaking from experience (as I'm sure all guys can) it doesn't take much force between the legs to cause mucho grief. I find it difficult to accept an embellishment call on a spear to the gonads - that's a pretty sensitive area and anyone who's on the receiving end is likely to go down like a sack of potatoes.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 17, 2014 8:13:29 GMT -5
Agree, Gogie.
From my experience, one goes down instinctively--in protection-mode….knowing that the crescendo of pain is about 2 seconds away. Even if the cup did its job, you still react as if the pain's coming.
Come on, Quintal and Pronger….do the right thing here.
That's not hockey…it's deliberate assault….using a hockey stick as a weapon.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 17, 2014 8:48:58 GMT -5
... just friggin' hurts is all ...
Cheers.
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Post by madhabber on Oct 17, 2014 9:10:31 GMT -5
... just friggin' hurts is all ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 17, 2014 9:12:00 GMT -5
Wisniewski got two games for his gesture at Avery….I'm thinking at least a game for doing that to the crowd. That's pretty graphic. Lucic will say it was a "lower body gesture". "Adjusting my cup" before raising the Cup. But it'll be the usual chump change fine….same for Marchand, if anything comes of that at all. There's gotta be a .gif of his separator somewhere online. I heard on TV this morning that Lucic's gesture will be reviewed by the league ... imagine after all of the antics, the verbal exchanges with the referees, leaving his team without a chance to come back, etc, he gets hit with a suspension ... wonder who he'll blame for that ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 17, 2014 9:15:14 GMT -5
Very, very good ...
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