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Post by UberCranky on Oct 17, 2014 15:11:10 GMT -5
You know what half the fun of all this is? Losing to the Hab's causes the Booins and their fans to lose their minds.
Now THAT is more fun then the win itself!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 17, 2014 17:47:13 GMT -5
CBC is really flogging the laser on Tuuka Rask last night ... they've had it on all day and you'd think it was the Vancouver riot ... guess there isn't enough newsworthy items out there as it is now ...
Cheers.
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Post by franko on Oct 17, 2014 17:54:51 GMT -5
huh. guess it actually happened. one person's stupidity will shape thoughts on all Habs fans . . . but that's nothing new, it's like that for all fan bases.
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Post by HFTO on Oct 17, 2014 18:01:31 GMT -5
I was flipping too football occasionally and did not see or hear them talk about the laser durIng the game. Definitely no joking matter but yet another excuse for the B's and fuel to discredit the Habs who actually were quite awful so what does that say about the poor Booins this year.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 17, 2014 21:28:37 GMT -5
Just putting it out there but while Lucic was skating around all pissed off and beaking at the refs, Andre Markov (accidentally-on-purpose?) bumps into Lucic as he's skating by ... I honestly don't know if it was intentional but it wouldn't surprise me if it was ... Markov can be a real instigator when he wants to ... apparently it was Markov who set Lucic off in the handshake line last season ...
Cheers.
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Post by UberCranky on Oct 17, 2014 22:54:36 GMT -5
The laser bothrs me a lot. It is not only not fair play, but its also dangerous for the players.
If the catch the idiot, they should charge him.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 18, 2014 0:52:36 GMT -5
The laser bothrs me a lot. It is not only not fair play, but its also dangerous for the players. If the catch the idiot, they should charge him. I agree. You'd think the fans sitting beside the guy would see what's going on and put an end to the stupidity.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 18, 2014 1:09:09 GMT -5
If they catch him, they should threaten to point it in his eye and see how he likes it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 7:16:30 GMT -5
The laser bothrs me a lot. It is not only not fair play, but its also dangerous for the players. If the catch the idiot, they should charge him. My understanding was they found who it was and confiscated it. The team said that future incidents - from anyone - will result in being banned from the building.
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Post by christrpn on Oct 18, 2014 7:21:15 GMT -5
The laser bothrs me a lot. It is not only not fair play, but its also dangerous for the players. If the catch the idiot, they should charge him. My understanding was they found who it was and confiscated it. The team said that future incidents - from anyone - will result in being banned from the building. The fan was kicked out of the bell center. He missed the rest of the gaame. Given the price of the tickets, he got more of a punishment than Lucic
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Post by christrpn on Oct 18, 2014 7:22:49 GMT -5
As for the Lucic hit on Emelin, if Emelin doesn't turn his back, does Lucic still get called? I don't believe that was a penalty, when Lucic decided he was going to hit Emelin, Emelin was shoulder to shoulder. I strongly believe players need to protect themselves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBjVbKc_ZU
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 18, 2014 7:29:29 GMT -5
The laser bothrs me a lot. It is not only not fair play, but its also dangerous for the players. If the catch the idiot, they should charge him. There is a precedence for this ... a fan who used a laser is being charged with a misdemeanor and has been banned from all events at Fords Field ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 18, 2014 8:04:35 GMT -5
As for the Lucic hit on Emelin, if Emelin doesn't turn his back, does Lucic still get called? I don't believe that was a penalty, when Lucic decided he was going to hit Emelin, Emelin was shoulder to shoulder. I strongly believe players need to protect themselves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBjVbKc_ZUIMO, it's yes and no. Players dump the puck and turn/spin/reverse direction from impending hits all the time. Emelin put the brakes on to turn away and avoid the hit. But he underestimated Lucic's position/speed. If Emelin had kept skating foward, he would've been creamed as well. Likely no penalty….but he may have jammed a shoulder. So, in that sense, he was trying to protect himself. The refs were watching for Lucic on Emelin all night…and they were primed to call him. That, unfortunately, is what happens when you threaten to kill someone in a handshake line. I would fully expect one of our guys to be watched/called if they had that reputation. Look at Subban. Like it or not, justified or not, he has a rep for embellishing….which is what led to that ridiculous call after Marchand's separator. I think it's a good sign that the refs are finally tuned in to Lucic's BS….now if only Colin Campbell's boys could get it right. Sadly, I don't think Lucic is done with Emelin (or Weise) yet. In his mind, he HAS to save face with the fans by fulfilling his threat. That call poured fuel on it. Boston @ Montreal--Thurs. Nov. 13. Likely nothing happens. Montreal @ Boston--Sat. Nov. 22. Look out.
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Post by Gogie on Oct 18, 2014 9:00:51 GMT -5
As for the Lucic hit on Emelin, if Emelin doesn't turn his back, does Lucic still get called? I don't believe that was a penalty, when Lucic decided he was going to hit Emelin, Emelin was shoulder to shoulder. I strongly believe players need to protect themselves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBjVbKc_ZUIMO, it's yes and no. Players dump the puck and turn/spin/reverse direction from impending hits all the time. Emelin put the brakes on to turn away and avoid the hit. But he underestimated Lucic's position/speed. If Emelin had kept skating foward, he would've been creamed as well. Likely no penalty….but he may have jammed a shoulder. So, in that sense, he was trying to protect himself. The refs were watching for Lucic on Emelin all night…and they were primed to call him. That, unfortunately, is what happens when you threaten to kill someone in a handshake line. I would fully expect one of our guys to be watched/called if they had that reputation. Look at Subban. Like it or not, justified or not, he has a rep for embellishing….which is what led to that ridiculous call after Marchand's separator. I think it's a good sign that the refs are finally tuned in to Lucic's BS….now if only Colin Campbell's boys could get it right. Sadly, I don't think Lucic is done with Emelin (or Weise) yet. In his mind, he HAS to save face with the fans by fulfilling his threat. That call poured fuel on it. Boston @ Montreal--Thurs. Nov. 13. Likely nothing happens. - I'll be there to make sure nothing untoward happens. Montreal @ Boston--Sat. Nov. 22. Look out.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 18, 2014 10:02:04 GMT -5
As for the Lucic hit on Emelin, if Emelin doesn't turn his back, does Lucic still get called? I don't believe that was a penalty, when Lucic decided he was going to hit Emelin, Emelin was shoulder to shoulder. I strongly believe players need to protect themselves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBjVbKc_ZUI don't agree with this at all. The NHL has to protect the players, and IMO, at all costs. A hit to the head is suspension-worthy, yet punching someone in the face is encouraged. Illogical, does not compute, error , error .... The NHL has to be more like the NFL, and not the NBA ( which is what Bettman keeps trying, in my opinion). All hits to the head should be penalties, accidental or not. The 4-5 minutes types go to Quintal for review. All hits from behind, whether the player turned or not, have to be penalties. And the grievous ones go to Quintal for review. Time to stop blaming the victims, and again in my opinion, time for the NHL to take a real serious look at the farce called "finishing a check" ... That's a fancy phrase for interference. No one complains if your hand glances of a players face mask, it's a penalty. No one says oh, he lowered his head into the tackle. It's a penalty. There are other ways to tackle (check) that you need not EVER go into someone face mask or push them from behind. Same standard applies to making contact with the kicker or hitting a QBs head. Only in hockey do we blame the guy whose career could be ruined.
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Post by jkr on Oct 18, 2014 10:07:17 GMT -5
As for the Lucic hit on Emelin, if Emelin doesn't turn his back, does Lucic still get called? I don't believe that was a penalty, when Lucic decided he was going to hit Emelin, Emelin was shoulder to shoulder. I strongly believe players need to protect themselves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBjVbKc_ZUIMO, it's yes and no. Players dump the puck and turn/spin/reverse direction from impending hits all the time. Emelin put the brakes on to turn away and avoid the hit. But he underestimated Lucic's position/speed. If Emelin had kept skating foward, he would've been creamed as well. Likely no penalty….but he may have jammed a shoulder. So, in that sense, he was trying to protect himself. The refs were watching for Lucic on Emelin all night…and they were primed to call him. That, unfortunately, is what happens when you threaten to kill someone in a handshake line. I would fully expect one of our guys to be watched/called if they had that reputation. Look at Subban. Like it or not, justified or not, he has a rep for embellishing….which is what led to that ridiculous call after Marchand's separator. I think it's a good sign that the refs are finally tuned in to Lucic's BS….now if only Colin Campbell's boys could get it right. Sadly, I don't think Lucic is done with Emelin (or Weise) yet. In his mind, he HAS to save face with the fans by fulfilling his threat. That call poured fuel on it. Boston @ Montreal--Thurs. Nov. 13. Likely nothing happens. Montreal @ Boston--Sat. Nov. 22. Look out. Lucy is too much of a chickensh!t to do something in Montreal. He'll wait until he has the Boston crowd behind him.
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Post by habsorbed on Oct 18, 2014 11:38:20 GMT -5
As for the Lucic hit on Emelin, if Emelin doesn't turn his back, does Lucic still get called? I don't believe that was a penalty, when Lucic decided he was going to hit Emelin, Emelin was shoulder to shoulder. I strongly believe players need to protect themselves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBjVbKc_ZUI don't agree with this at all. The NHL has to protect the players, and IMO, at all costs. A hit to the head is suspension-worthy, yet punching someone in the face is encouraged. Illogical, does not compute, error , error .... The NHL has to be more like the NFL, and not the NBA ( which is what Bettman keeps trying, in my opinion). All hits to the head should be penalties, accidental or not. The 4-5 minutes types go to Quintal for review. All hits from behind, whether the player turned or not, have to be penalties. And the grievous ones go to Quintal for review. Time to stop blaming the victims, and again in my opinion, time for the NHL to take a real serious look at the farce called "finishing a check" ... That's a fancy phrase for interference. No one complains if your hand glances of a players face mask, it's a penalty. No one says oh, he lowered his head into the tackle. It's a penalty. There are other ways to tackle (check) that you need not EVER go into someone face mask or push them from behind. Same standard applies to making contact with the kicker or hitting a QBs head. Only in hockey do we blame the guy whose career could be ruined. It's a tough call. In my mind this was a true hockey play. Emeiln was determined to make the red line to dump it in late in the game and Lucy knows this and is determined not to let him and cut him off. The race is on and the gap is closing. Emelin knows Lucy is bearing down on him and to his credit doesn't chicken out. But in doing so he pays the price in hockey - being hit. After dumping the puck in he turns away at the last second. Lucy finishes his check and it is into Emelin's back because of Emeiln last second turn. The only thing I didn't like about Lucy's hit was he realizes Emeiln has slowed and turns and Lucy swings his body back to catch more of Emeiln's back. Anyway, i think it's a call that could have gone either way. Had emeiln been hurt we would be furious. The fact it was Lucy on Emelin, the refs are making that call. If it was Bergeron I don't see a penalty being called. What is dumb is that the sort of play, race to red line as defender tries to cut off, happens numerous times in a game. But for Lucy to lower the boon with 90 seconds, if I'm Julien I'm choked.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 13:53:47 GMT -5
McLennan says that if there's no call, then Lucic doesn't lose his mind...then says that Lucic's actions were unacceptable. Trying to have his cake and eat it, too. I agree that the call on the ice is questionable, but in the history of bad calls very few players turned to the fans and made obscene gestures. Come on. Do you blame the officials, or Lucic? You can't do both. www.tsn.ca/bruins-f-lucic-apologizes-for-inexcusable-actions-in-montreal-1.110040
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 18, 2014 14:15:35 GMT -5
"Also want to apologize to our fans, and also apologize to the Montreal Canadiens organization and to the Canadiens fans. I know they can get under your skin sometimes, but they are great fans. So apologies for my actions. I regret what I did."
Fans are supposed to try to get under your skin...you're supposed to be the professional athlete. Have you ever listened to YOUR fans taunt the opposition? Besides, you'd just taken a late penalty in a 1-goal game. You deserved to be jeered.
Just like Cherry....can't apologize without throwing something back.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 14:27:04 GMT -5
"Also want to apologize to our fans, and also apologize to the Montreal Canadiens organization and to the Canadiens fans. I know they can get under your skin sometimes, but they are great fans. So apologies for my actions. I regret what I did."Fans are supposed to try to get under your skin...you're supposed to be the professional athlete. Have you ever listened to YOUR fans taunt the opposition? Besides, you'd just taken a late penalty in a 1-goal game. You deserved to be jeered. Just like Cherry....can't apologize without throwing something back. This apology should have come either immediately after the game, or yesterday. Somebody came up to him and told him to do it.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 18, 2014 15:12:22 GMT -5
Just like Cherry, Oct. 2011. At first he refused to apologize. It took the threat of legal action from Stu Grimson and a whole lot of pressure from HNIC.....even then, he didn't apologize properly. Especially when it starts with, "Now....I have done 1500 shows....and the ones I've done bad on...or I haven't been right on....I can count 'em on one hand." He goes on to say he was 100% wrong...but then uses Arron Asham's apology (for his sleeping gesture after KOing Jay Beagle) to illustrate how courageous it is to apologize in front of a big audience. "Let me tell ya somethin'! It's pretty tough for him to go in front of the TV...and (**meaning himself) it's pretty tough in front of 2 million people...to admit you're wrong. Arron, you gotta have a lotta guts and character to admit when you're wrong when you have 2 million people watchin' ya." **HNIC's audience numbers were around the 2 million mark for the opening games that season. FIRST, LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY THAT I'M HARDLY EVER WRONG. I WAS WRONG. I'M SORRY. ME AND ARRON ASHAM, BOY! WE GOT GUTS AND CHARACTER FOR APOLOGIZING!
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Oct 18, 2014 15:13:56 GMT -5
"Also want to apologize to our fans, and also apologize to the Montreal Canadiens organization and to the Canadiens fans. I know they can get under your skin sometimes, but they are great fans. So apologies for my actions. I regret what I did."Fans are supposed to try to get under your skin...you're supposed to be the professional athlete. Have you ever listened to YOUR fans taunt the opposition? Besides, you'd just taken a late penalty in a 1-goal game. You deserved to be jeered. Just like Cherry....can't apologize without throwing something back. This apology should have come either immediately after the game, or yesterday. Somebody came up to him and told him to do it. I think there is no doubt any apology comes directly from Neely having his chat and it likely sickens Lucic to say it. There is always the game inside the game and I'm sure Markov bumped him on purpose and would have taken a punch just to irritate him more. Also if any guy has ever been hit in the jewels then you know PK did a dive act as soon as he felt the stick between his legs because I have never seen anyone take a shot and then jump to their feet that fast. The Habs have to get away from the diving because they need to be better than that
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 18, 2014 15:16:06 GMT -5
"Also want to apologize to our fans, and also apologize to the Montreal Canadiens organization and to the Canadiens fans. I know they can get under your skin sometimes, but they are great fans. So apologies for my actions. I regret what I did."Fans are supposed to try to get under your skin...you're supposed to be the professional athlete. Have you ever listened to YOUR fans taunt the opposition? Besides, you'd just taken a late penalty in a 1-goal game. You deserved to be jeered. Just like Cherry....can't apologize without throwing something back. This apology should have come either immediately after the game, or yesterday. Somebody came up to him and told him to do it. I think it probably took a lot for Lucic to apologize like that ... a big dose of humility, more so if he was directed to do it ... I'm thinking we might see a different Bruins team come next game ... quite the rivalry ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 18, 2014 15:35:33 GMT -5
There is always the game inside the game and I'm sure Markov bumped him on purpose and would have taken a punch just to irritate him more. I'm glad someone else saw that ... I don't know the guy from Adam, but I really think Markov is an instigator ... he poked Chara in the pills during last year's playoffs ... it wasn't right to begin with, but we were up 4-0 at the time and that brought it to another level ... not apologizing for or condemning Markov, but it shows that we don't know what those sub-games are unless we're on the ice ... I'm waiting to see the post-season team tallies for embellishment ... I'm really hoping the Habs aren't in the top-5 ... sending Subban off was a good learning tool for the entire team ... don't embellish, sure, but don't try to make the refs look bad either ... it's like trying to lie to a cop and that just doesn't work out well anytime ... Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 16:12:41 GMT -5
A lot of people are on Subban's case for embellishing (it's debatable since it's, well, a sensitive area that isn't fully covered by a cup), but not enough people are talking about how Lucic and Marchand seem so determined to jab players in that area, most of which is without consequence. That type of play is a deliberate attempt to injure. Unfortunately, because Subban has tried to nurse calls out of referees in the past, any time he goes down they're guessing whether or not it's legitimate. You think players don't know to target him? "Do whatever you can; the refs will think he's faking it."
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Post by habsask on Oct 18, 2014 20:13:50 GMT -5
I don't agree with this at all. The NHL has to protect the players, and IMO, at all costs. A hit to the head is suspension-worthy, yet punching someone in the face is encouraged. Illogical, does not compute, error , error .... The NHL has to be more like the NFL, and not the NBA ( which is what Bettman keeps trying, in my opinion). All hits to the head should be penalties, accidental or not. The 4-5 minutes types go to Quintal for review. All hits from behind, whether the player turned or not, have to be penalties. And the grievous ones go to Quintal for review. Time to stop blaming the victims, and again in my opinion, time for the NHL to take a real serious look at the farce called "finishing a check" ... That's a fancy phrase for interference. No one complains if your hand glances of a players face mask, it's a penalty. No one says oh, he lowered his head into the tackle. It's a penalty. There are other ways to tackle (check) that you need not EVER go into someone face mask or push them from behind. Same standard applies to making contact with the kicker or hitting a QBs head. Only in hockey do we blame the guy whose career could be ruined. I'm fully on board with your comments Skilly. And IMO fighting should be banned & the rules changed to take the head out of play. I hope the NHL gets stuck with a $700 million+ law suit settlement like the NFL did. That might get their attention. Cheers
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Post by stoat on Oct 19, 2014 0:24:45 GMT -5
The laser bothrs me a lot. It is not only not fair play, but its also dangerous for the players. If the catch the idiot, they should charge him. You're right. We live in a sick society. Other nuts are even more scary: they point more powerful lasers at planes.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 19, 2014 8:53:18 GMT -5
The laser bothrs me a lot. It is not only not fair play, but its also dangerous for the players. If the catch the idiot, they should charge him. You're right. We live in a sick society. Other nuts are even more scary: they point more powerful lasers at planes. We had two instances here last week where planes were trying to land, and the pilots reported they were temporarily blinded by green lasers. Scary and criminal.
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Post by franko on Oct 19, 2014 9:21:31 GMT -5
You're right. We live in a sick society. Other nuts are even more scary: they point more powerful lasers at planes. We had two instances here last week where planes were trying to land, and the pilots reported they were temporarily blinded by green lasers. Scary and criminal. yup, it's happened a number of times here lately too. someone needs a good slap upside the head to wake them up.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 19, 2014 10:29:35 GMT -5
Point a laser at them? An eye for an eye? Nah, too civilized for that. Just export them to Iraq or Western Africa How come a Bruins post game thread is still alive after a game has taken place after it? What does that tell us about ourselves....and the Bruins?
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