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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 19, 2014 10:32:13 GMT -5
As for the Lucic hit on Emelin, if Emelin doesn't turn his back, does Lucic still get called? I don't believe that was a penalty, when Lucic decided he was going to hit Emelin, Emelin was shoulder to shoulder. I strongly believe players need to protect themselves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBjVbKc_ZUI don't agree with this at all. The NHL has to protect the players, and IMO, at all costs. A hit to the head is suspension-worthy, yet punching someone in the face is encouraged. Illogical, does not compute, error , error .... The NHL has to be more like the NFL, and not the NBA ( which is what Bettman keeps trying, in my opinion). All hits to the head should be penalties, accidental or not. The 4-5 minutes types go to Quintal for review. All hits from behind, whether the player turned or not, have to be penalties. And the grievous ones go to Quintal for review. Time to stop blaming the victims, and again in my opinion, time for the NHL to take a real serious look at the farce called "finishing a check" ... That's a fancy phrase for interference. No one complains if your hand glances of a players face mask, it's a penalty. No one says oh, he lowered his head into the tackle. It's a penalty. There are other ways to tackle (check) that you need not EVER go into someone face mask or push them from behind. Same standard applies to making contact with the kicker or hitting a QBs head. Only in hockey do we blame the guy whose career could be ruined. I find the most dismissive, cant/convenient choices of terms to be "it's a hockey play" or "accidentally-on-purpose" ... both terms are cop outs and are used as explanations so as to avoid actually having to deal with the action ... many of our best players have been dismantled over the years and these phrases have been used for no other reason that to deflect responsibility ... I'm sure any pro player reading this would probably suggest that I simply don't know the game ... well, that may be true but where will the responsibility be deflected to once you've broken your neck on a Chara-like hockey play ... if that was a hockey play then you've lost the right to pretty much contest anything else ... [/rant] Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 19, 2014 11:16:08 GMT -5
Right on, Dis.
This league and media would be well-served to stop embracing the 3 loophole qualifiers that accompany such plays.
1. A hockey play "gone wrong". 2. An "unfortunate" hockey play. 3. A "heat of the moment" hockey play.
While it may be true in some instances, it's usually just the blanket excuse predatory/sociopathic players give themselves…because it works…and so they continue their felonious ways.
And you have influential people like Cherry saying things like, "Chara doesn't have a mean bone in his body."
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 19, 2014 11:48:21 GMT -5
Right on, Dis. This league and media would be well-served to stop embracing the 3 loophole qualifiers that accompany such plays. 1. A hockey play "gone wrong". 2. An "unfortunate" hockey play. 3. A "heat of the moment" hockey play. While it may be true in some instances, it's usually just the blanket excuse predatory/sociopathic players give themselves…because it works…and so they continue their felonious ways. And you have influential people like Cherry saying things like, "Chara doesn't have a mean bone in his body." "I'm not that kind of player" is also a phrase that's disrespectful on many levels but in broad terms it's disrespectful to the game as a whole ... right from the wide-eyed kids who aspire to be NHLers, right up to the NHL coaches who openly condone the action ... the Bruins won their last Cup by flipping the bird any time they felt like it ... mind you, they had a great team, but they also got the calls, they got the breaks (again, on many levels) and they made sure everyone knew they could do it anytime they wanted ... that's reflected in some of the more immature Bruins fans I know, but to be fair we have our share of them too in Montreal ... I suppose every team has but at the same time there's a limit ... and it could be as simple as monkey-see, monkey-do ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 19, 2014 12:22:02 GMT -5
The Bruin 2011 Cup is a stain, IMO, harkening back to the Flyers of the mid-70s. It takes either attrition or a skilled team to right the ship, because the league won't stop it.
Yes, those teams had great, skilled players…but the violence they perpetrated and got away with en route is disgusting.
Under the very thin veneer of the double-standards and excuses…we know exactly why it's ju$tified.
"Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?"
And yes, Dis, I agree...every team has the full spectrum of fans...it's just that some teams have more of the visceral type than others. Sometimes, it's an organization's "identity".
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Post by UberCranky on Oct 19, 2014 19:43:45 GMT -5
Point a laser at them? An eye for an eye? Nah, too civilized for that. Just export them to Iraq or Western Africa How come a Bruins post game thread is still alive after a game has taken place after it? What does that tell us about ourselves....and the Bruins? Like all dead game, you can enjoy their meat long after you sent them to the afterlife.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 11:10:31 GMT -5
And yes, Dis, I agree...every team has the full spectrum of fans...it's just that some teams have more of the visceral type than others. Sometimes, it's an organization's "identity". Go to the comments section of every sports-related article posted, or YouTube video to find the "best of the worst" fans of any team.
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