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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 1, 2014 17:29:44 GMT -5
So it's done and out of the way ... the game is tomorrow, 7 PM and don't forget to turn your clocks back one hour tonight ... edit: If anyone finds the projected lineups just drop the info to one of the mods and we can put it in ...
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Post by christrpn on Nov 2, 2014 8:08:01 GMT -5
So it's done and out of the way ... the game is tomorrow, 7 PM and don't forget to turn your clocks back one hour tonight ... edit: If anyone finds the projected lineups just drop the info to one of the mods and we can put it in ... Lines at practice yesterday in Brossard: Attachments:
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 2, 2014 12:07:58 GMT -5
If BGal can get Bourque going then MT is a genius. Hopefully this is Bourque's last chance. BGal's energy and intensity has always been infectious for his line mates. But i really believe Bourque will continue to be oblivious to his surroundings. LAST CHANCE #17. Too many talented eager players who want to get in the line up!
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 13:03:08 GMT -5
If we had 1 more compliance buyout Almost Bourque would be gone. I think we will have both of them for the remainder of the year but the cap is going up and they will each have 1 year left on their contracts at years end so they should hopefully be an attractive option for a floor team.
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 2, 2014 13:16:48 GMT -5
If we had 1 more compliance buyout Almost Bourque would be gone. I think we will have both of them for the remainder of the year but the cap is going up and they will each have 1 year left on their contracts at years end so they should hopefully be an attractive option for a floor team. Even if we had one, I'm not sure about using a compliance buy out to rid the team of $3.3 million. That seems pretty low. Don't know if any team has gone that low. At some point you just recognize the mistake which wasn't huge compared to some others (Gomer) and live with it in the minors if you can't get rid of the guy. But to stubbornly play the guy who brings nothing at the expense of the team and young players who need to develop simply compounds the mistake. Perhaps the teams early success in the standings is allowing MB to stretch this out. I'm guessing if we were currently below 500 and Bourque had played as he has, Sekac and Bournival would be showing Bourque how the game is played while Bourque sat in the gondola!
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Post by blny on Nov 2, 2014 13:17:50 GMT -5
Someone needs to hypnotize Bourque and tell him it's the playoffs.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 14:00:59 GMT -5
Someone needs to hypnotize Bourque and tell him it's the playoffs. I dont think bork has the attention span to be hypnotized
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 14:22:32 GMT -5
No Bournival or Sekac this game either. How long are these guys supposed to sit?
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Post by seventeen on Nov 2, 2014 14:30:36 GMT -5
No Bournival or Sekac this game either. How long are these guys supposed to sit? As long as MT wishes.....because.
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 2, 2014 14:48:39 GMT -5
Someone needs to hypnotize Bourque and tell him it's the playoffs. I dont think bork has the attention span to be hypnotized Love it!
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 2, 2014 14:51:26 GMT -5
No Bournival or Sekac this game either. How long are these guys supposed to sit? As long as MT wishes.....because. Sadly, yup. Must confess that for all my optimistic comments (Habs will win Cup in next 3 years) I may have overlooked the MT factor. If he was capable of preventing a very skilled Pens team from winning the Cup, his sabotage act may be our demise.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 15:02:38 GMT -5
It's tough watching the flames knowing if only Hartley wanted to be in Montreal. This would be a different team.
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Post by PTH on Nov 2, 2014 15:55:44 GMT -5
It's tough watching the flames knowing if only Hartley wanted to be in Montreal. This would be a different team. I can't believe the MT-hate on this board. We're at the top of the standings, kids like Markov (12 years ago), Tokarski, Subban, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have progressed incredibly well with MT as coach, so it's not like he's a veterans-only kind of coach, and people still find fault in anything he does. If Eller seems to be getting singled-out, it's because he's not playing the way he needs to, if Bourque is still in the lineup, it's because the kids who could take his place aren't that great, and Bourque hasn't been that bad. And if we had Hartley as coach, we'd be a goonish team, with even less hope for finesse players to make it, because that's the hockey that Hartley likes, and has liked everywhere he's coached. If we've got a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, just watch Hartley send out the big bruisers to try and intimidate our team, it's all he knows how to do.
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Post by Bones on Nov 2, 2014 16:03:30 GMT -5
It's tough watching the flames knowing if only Hartley wanted to be in Montreal. This would be a different team. I can't believe the MT-hate on this board. We're at the top of the standings, kids like Markov (12 years ago), Tokarski, Subban, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have progressed incredibly well with MT as coach, so it's not like he's a veterans-only kind of coach, and people still find fault in anything he does. If Eller seems to be getting singled-out, it's because he's not playing the way he needs to, if Bourque is still in the lineup, it's because the kids who could take his place aren't that great, and Bourque hasn't been that bad. And if we had Hartley as coach, we'd be a goonish team, with even less hope for finesse players to make it, because that's the hockey that Hartley likes, and has liked everywhere he's coached. If we've got a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, just watch Hartley send out the big bruisers to try and intimidate our team, it's all he knows how to do. Not sure what more MT has to do, sure he's does things that don't always seem to make sense, but his results have been exemplary, and can't be argued. I'd rather have Sekac and Bournival playing too, but at the end of the day the only things that matters are the W's and he's been piling them up since his return here. I'm starting to believe that if the majority of hab fans don't have something to complain about they aren't satisfied. It's a strange phenomenon. I'm actually dreading what's gonna happen when our team (as all teams) hit's an inevitable slump.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 16:13:30 GMT -5
It's tough watching the flames knowing if only Hartley wanted to be in Montreal. This would be a different team. I can't believe the MT-hate on this board. We're at the top of the standings, kids like Markov (12 years ago), Tokarski, Subban, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have progressed incredibly well with MT as coach, so it's not like he's a veterans-only kind of coach, and people still find fault in anything he does. If Eller seems to be getting singled-out, it's because he's not playing the way he needs to, if Bourque is still in the lineup, it's because the kids who could take his place aren't that great, and Bourque hasn't been that bad. And if we had Hartley as coach, we'd be a goonish team, with even less hope for finesse players to make it, because that's the hockey that Hartley likes, and has liked everywhere he's coached. If we've got a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, just watch Hartley send out the big bruisers to try and intimidate our team, it's all he knows how to do. This team would be different they would stick up for each other rather than looking the other way. How many times does price get messed with. How many times does gallagher get abused... most of the time no one does anything. The players dont have a pack mentality and that is what they need. They have the skill, they need the 'I don't give a Saperlipopette' attitude sometimes
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Post by Bones on Nov 2, 2014 16:19:50 GMT -5
I can't believe the MT-hate on this board. We're at the top of the standings, kids like Markov (12 years ago), Tokarski, Subban, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have progressed incredibly well with MT as coach, so it's not like he's a veterans-only kind of coach, and people still find fault in anything he does. If Eller seems to be getting singled-out, it's because he's not playing the way he needs to, if Bourque is still in the lineup, it's because the kids who could take his place aren't that great, and Bourque hasn't been that bad. And if we had Hartley as coach, we'd be a goonish team, with even less hope for finesse players to make it, because that's the hockey that Hartley likes, and has liked everywhere he's coached. If we've got a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, just watch Hartley send out the big bruisers to try and intimidate our team, it's all he knows how to do. This team would be different they would stick up for each other rather than looking the other way. How many times does price get messed with. How many times does gallagher get abused... most of the time no one does anything. The players dont have a pack mentality and that is what they need. They have the skill, they need the 'I don't give a Saperlipopette' attitude sometimes Do you honestly believe this team doesn't play for each other or has each others backs? This is one of the most close knit teams we've had in decades. Even Parenteau was shocked about the togetherness of this team in the locker room, when asked about it he was quoted as saying, he's never experienced anything like it before in the NHL. Also all these come from behind victories are just another clear example of how much they believe in eachother as well as their character. I'm pretty sure the coaching staff and management team deserve some credit for this.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 16:27:05 GMT -5
This team would be different they would stick up for each other rather than looking the other way. How many times does price get messed with. How many times does gallagher get abused... most of the time no one does anything. The players dont have a pack mentality and that is what they need. They have the skill, they need the 'I don't give a Saperlipopette' attitude sometimes Do you honestly believe this team doesn't play for each other or has each others backs? This is one of the most close knit teams we've had in decades. Even Parenteau was shocked about the togetherness of this team in the locker room, when asked about it he was quoted as saying, he's never experienced anything like it before in the NHL. Bones, I'm not disputing the closeness in the room. I'm concerned about what happens on the ice. Last year Kreider took out Carey... everyone knows it. No one has gone after Kreider. If Carey is taken out we are done imo. This is my biggest concern.
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Post by Bones on Nov 2, 2014 16:29:51 GMT -5
What happens on the ice is in the results of the standings WD. At least in my opinion. I'm not sure what else you can use at the end of the day to guage results.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 16:39:18 GMT -5
What happens on the ice is in the results of the standings WD. At least in my opinion. No worries bones. Like i said though I'm worried about our mvp and his protection during a game.
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Nov 2, 2014 16:43:54 GMT -5
It's tough watching the flames knowing if only Hartley wanted to be in Montreal. This would be a different team. I can't believe the MT-hate on this board. We're at the top of the standings, kids like Markov (12 years ago), Tokarski, Subban, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have progressed incredibly well with MT as coach, so it's not like he's a veterans-only kind of coach, and people still find fault in anything he does. If Eller seems to be getting singled-out, it's because he's not playing the way he needs to, if Bourque is still in the lineup, it's because the kids who could take his place aren't that great, and Bourque hasn't been that bad. And if we had Hartley as coach, we'd be a goonish team, with even less hope for finesse players to make it, because that's the hockey that Hartley likes, and has liked everywhere he's coached. If we've got a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, just watch Hartley send out the big bruisers to try and intimidate our team, it's all he knows how to do. Very good post and I'm 100% in agreement with you. This is a team that almost went to the finals last year and not on a fluke but deserved to be there, the team this year is off to its best start in something like 40 years and yet there are still complaints about MT. Unbelievable
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Post by stoat on Nov 2, 2014 16:54:00 GMT -5
Someone needs to hypnotize Bourque and tell him it's the playoffs. I can still visualize him streaking down the right wing and blistering a shot past Tuukka Rask.
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Post by franko on Nov 2, 2014 17:00:19 GMT -5
I can't believe the MT-hate on this board. We're at the top of the standings, kids like Markov (12 years ago), Tokarski, Subban, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have progressed incredibly well with MT as coach, so it's not like he's a veterans-only kind of coach, and people still find fault in anything he does. If Eller seems to be getting singled-out, it's because he's not playing the way he needs to, if Bourque is still in the lineup, it's because the kids who could take his place aren't that great, and Bourque hasn't been that bad. And if we had Hartley as coach, we'd be a goonish team, with even less hope for finesse players to make it, because that's the hockey that Hartley likes, and has liked everywhere he's coached. If we've got a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, just watch Hartley send out the big bruisers to try and intimidate our team, it's all he knows how to do. Very good post and I'm 100% in agreement with you. This is a team that almost went to the finals last year and not on a fluke but deserved to be there, the team this year is off to its best start in something like 40 years and yet there are still complaints about MT. Unbelievable I know that goaltending is an important part of the game, but playing Price is MTs best move. he has done nothing to help a helpless powerplay, he continues to play guys who are doing nothing and to sit guys who might bring some offense to a punchless O. he doesn't seem to be coaching, he isn't innovating or fixing what isn't working. he's been lucky a all get out. not that I want the team to win by 6 every night (well, I do, but that isn't realistic) . . . I just want the team to come out ready to play, and to have guys on the ice that do something positive. and yes, I am anti-Bourque, but with good reason) . . .which leads me to boy do I disagree. Bourque has done nothing and brings nothing to the team. if he is better than the kids that are in the system we are in big trouble in the years ahead. and if Eller is not playing the way he needs to and Bourque is we're in even bigger trouble. what is Bourque's role? to lose or to skate away from the puck? 1 assist, -6, 4pm. Eller isn't much better but at least he has a goal (1, 1, -7, 10pm). that minus and 6 pms make him a candidate for the press box, but Bourque is doing what he is supposed to do? like I said, I respectfully disagree with your analysis. as to MT, I make no bones about the fact I don't like his coaching style. but somehow the Habs are doing well, and as much as it drives me crazy, he has to get some credit for waking the boys up to play int he third. I just wish he'd have them play in the first and second . . . maybe tonight?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 2, 2014 17:07:22 GMT -5
I can't believe the MT-hate on this board. We're at the top of the standings, kids like Markov (12 years ago), Tokarski, Subban, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have progressed incredibly well with MT as coach, so it's not like he's a veterans-only kind of coach, and people still find fault in anything he does. If Eller seems to be getting singled-out, it's because he's not playing the way he needs to, if Bourque is still in the lineup, it's because the kids who could take his place aren't that great, and Bourque hasn't been that bad. And if we had Hartley as coach, we'd be a goonish team, with even less hope for finesse players to make it, because that's the hockey that Hartley likes, and has liked everywhere he's coached. If we've got a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, just watch Hartley send out the big bruisers to try and intimidate our team, it's all he knows how to do. I never knew that about Hartley's teams, to be honest ... that said, he does work for a guy who likes describing his teams as "truculent" ... whether coming out of Burke's mouth, or the media continually reminding us he said it, I've heard the word so many times that I can't hear it without thinking of him ... having said that, his club could beat up a lot of other teams but they couldn't score any goals ... I'm surprised Hartley has the Flames playing as well as they are ... 5th in their division but only four points out first and seven points out of last ... it's still early in the season but the Flames are better than they were last year, at least to this point ... Therrien? ... I don't understand his methodology, but his team has been winning a lot of one-goal games ... I don't know if that's by design or if we're just plain lucky ... as for the game, Calgary is capable of taking us out at home ... would like to see the Habs dictate the game right off the bat ... Cheers.
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Post by Bones on Nov 2, 2014 17:12:58 GMT -5
as to MT, I make no bones about the fact I don't like his coaching style. but somehow the Habs are doing well, and as much as it drives me crazy, he has to get some credit for waking the boys up to play int he third. I just wish he'd have them play in the first and second . . . maybe tonight? I agree, we need to start better and play consistently well, this leaving it to the 3rd period to pull a rabbit out of the hat isn't a very sound formula. That said I thought our last game was much better in regards to this, and we had our best opening period this season. Hopefully this continues. As for Bourque, I hope he scores a hatty tonight, now that would really drive you crazy.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 17:18:08 GMT -5
Very good post and I'm 100% in agreement with you. This is a team that almost went to the finals last year and not on a fluke but deserved to be there, the team this year is off to its best start in something like 40 years and yet there are still complaints about MT. Unbelievable I know that goaltending is an important part of the game, but playing Price is MTs best move. he has done nothing to help a helpless powerplay, he continues to play guys who are doing nothing and to sit guys who might bring some offense to a punchless O. he doesn't seem to be coaching, he isn't innovating or fixing what isn't working. he's been lucky a all get out. not that I want the team to win by 6 every night (well, I do, but that isn't realistic) . . . I just want the team to come out ready to play, and to have guys on the ice that do something positive. and yes, I am anti-Bourque, but with good reason) . . .which leads me to boy do I disagree. Bourque has done nothing and brings nothing to the team. if he is better than the kids that are in the system we are in big trouble in the years ahead. and if Eller is not playing the way he needs to and Bourque is we're in even bigger trouble. what is Bourque's role? to lose or to skate away from the puck? 1 assist, -6, 4pm. Eller isn't much better but at least he has a goal (1, 1, -7, 10pm). that minus and 6 pms make him a candidate for the press box, but Bourque is doing what he is supposed to do? like I said, I respectfully disagree with your analysis. as to MT, I make no bones about the fact I don't like his coaching style. but somehow the Habs are doing well, and as much as it drives me crazy, he has to get some credit for waking the boys up to play int he third. I just wish he'd have them play in the first and second . . . maybe tonight? I think a lot of fans, including myself, don't understand the thought process he has in some of his decisions. He has done amazingly well compared to what i thought would happen when he was hired. Is it because of MBs involvement? Has he grown as a coach? Who knows but i still have concerns, as do fans of any other team.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 17:19:43 GMT -5
as to MT, I make no bones about the fact I don't like his coaching style. but somehow the Habs are doing well, and as much as it drives me crazy, he has to get some credit for waking the boys up to play int he third. I just wish he'd have them play in the first and second . . . maybe tonight? I agree, we need to start better and play consistently well, this leaving it to the 3rd period to pull a rabbit out of the hat isn't a very sound formula. That said I thought our last game was much better in regards to this, and we had our best opening period this season. Hopefully this continues. As for Bourque, I hope he scores a hatty tonight, now that would really drive you crazy. I would be thrilled,and wished i had bought a lottery ticket, if he did that to his old team.
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Post by HFTO on Nov 2, 2014 17:21:18 GMT -5
Obviously a game you have to win ....good stretch of 7 pf 10 at home although it's a stretch laden with games 3 in 4 nights....time for some better overall efforts and hopefully a chance to see what Bournival and Sekac can contribute.if and when given the chance. This stretch will take them to the quarter poll 12 points min would be real nice.
Go Habs
HFTO
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Post by del on Nov 2, 2014 17:25:04 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe that if the majority of hab fans don't have something to complain about they aren't satisfied. It's a strange phenomenon. I'm actually dreading what's gonna happen when our team hit's an inevitable slump. FIRE MOLSON
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Post by Bones on Nov 2, 2014 17:30:10 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe that if the majority of hab fans don't have something to complain about they aren't satisfied. It's a strange phenomenon. I'm actually dreading what's gonna happen when our team hit's an inevitable slump. FIRE MOLSON LOL I can see the torches and pitchforks already.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 2, 2014 17:37:49 GMT -5
I'm starting to believe that if the majority of hab fans don't have something to complain about they aren't satisfied. It's a strange phenomenon. I'm actually dreading what's gonna happen when our team hit's an inevitable slump. FIRE MOLSON Nice one del
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