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Post by CentreHice on Nov 5, 2014 22:30:42 GMT -5
As far from convincing as possible.
Pappy with his 3rd SO winner....
I'm at a loss....but baby steps, I guess. That's the only positive way to look at this one. Sometimes it's ugly when you break out of a slump...and that was ugly.
That's why MB gets the big bucks.
Toker was very sharp.
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Post by Bones on Nov 5, 2014 22:32:41 GMT -5
Not a win to instill any confidence at all, but merely avoid falling into a deeper funk.
2 points are 2 points.
Not satisfied at all, but way better than the alternative.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 5, 2014 22:32:54 GMT -5
If sekac had been playing instead sitting where would he be
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Post by Bones on Nov 5, 2014 22:35:59 GMT -5
Pacioretty must be in denial, he's satisfied with their 60 minute effort. Like c'mon man, really?
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 5, 2014 22:36:21 GMT -5
Patches says he's happy with the 60 minute effort tonight... really patches? Play like this against the wild and they'll eat you up
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 5, 2014 22:44:31 GMT -5
If sekac had been playing instead sitting where would he be Neither Bork nor Moen have looked that good in any game yet this season. He should be playing.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 5, 2014 22:45:40 GMT -5
Pacioretty must be in denial, he's satisfied with their 60 minute effort. Like c'mon man, really? Did they put kool aid in the water bottles? What game was he watching?
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Post by franko on Nov 5, 2014 22:51:44 GMT -5
Pacioretty must be in denial, he's satisfied with their 60 minute effort. Like c'mon man, really? Did they put kool aid in the water bottles? What game was he watching? maybe it was the 60 minute pre-game skate that was ugly. an ugly 2 points. that was 2 points. I'll take it, puke, and hope for a better effort next game. *mutters under breath: 2 points, 2 . . . points. it's OK. it really is. 2 . . . points* (nope, no matter how I say it all I see is ug-ly)
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Post by Boston_Habs on Nov 5, 2014 23:03:45 GMT -5
Thought they showed more jump, especially in the 3rd period. A lot more controlled zone entries as opposed to dump and chase. Not a ton of high quality scoring chances. Eller had one in close in the 3rd and Pacioretty had a great look near the end. Frustrating that there is just no finish at all right now. That's 6 goals in our last 6 games. Brutal but you take the 2 points any way you can.
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 5, 2014 23:05:02 GMT -5
Neither Bork nor Moen have looked that good in any game yet this season. Taking one of your comments completely out of context for this joke.... I agree! Bork and Moen played better tonight than in any game yet this season!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 5, 2014 23:18:30 GMT -5
Gionta had a chance to end the game late in the 3rd ... that would have sucked huge ... given how his season has gone, I'd have put DD in the shootout, too, and I was kinda surprised he didn't score ... Parenteau likes the top-right corner of the net on his shootout attempts ... Tokarski was very good ... made a few outstanding saves ... would have liked to see a bigger spread in the score ... it's the friggin' Sabres ... the losing streak is over but I'm not convinced the same can be said for the slump ...
Cheers.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 5, 2014 23:38:41 GMT -5
29 goals in 14 games ....
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 6, 2014 0:36:32 GMT -5
Only saw the third and thought we had the better of the play. But reading the GDT and PGT, sounds like we struggled.
But from all the comments it sounds like Sekac played well (save for the hit) and Bourni as well. So perhaps the MT lovers can help me. Why is it that most if not all on this board have been clamouring for Sekac and Bourni to be dressed and no one supports Bourque or Moen. And then they are dressed and we see in short order how much of an improvement Sekac and Bourni are. Why can MT not see what was obvious to most if not all of us?
It's ironic that while i'm worried with the possible suspension to Sekac of perhaps 3 games, it is of little consequence as MT is likely not to dress him again for 5 games. DUMB AND DUMBER!!!
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2014 1:02:32 GMT -5
Pacioretty must be in denial, he's satisfied with their 60 minute effort. Like c'mon man, really? Did they put kool aid in the water bottles? What game was he watching? Not Kool-Aid.....Kook-aid...aka Lysergic Acid Diethylamide.
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 6, 2014 1:08:16 GMT -5
Did they put kool aid in the water bottles? What game was he watching? Not Kool-Aid.....Kook-aid...aka Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. I'm OK with that as long as they can go 'furthur'! interesting that MT says he was happy with the teams game tonight. Is he consuming the same concoction?
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 6, 2014 1:10:34 GMT -5
Did they put kool aid in the water bottles? What game was he watching? Not Kool-Aid.....Kook-aid...aka Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. Yeah....but you have to blame the MThood dealer!
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 6, 2014 1:11:22 GMT -5
Not Kool-Aid.....Kook-aid...aka Lysergic Acid Diethylamide. I'm OK with that as long as they can go 'furthur'! interesting that MT says he was happy with the teams game tonight. Is he consuming the same concoction? He deals it! Go figure......
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2014 1:16:07 GMT -5
Only saw the third and thought we had the better of the play. But reading the GDT and PGT, sounds like we struggled. But from all the comments it sounds like Sekac played well (save for the hit) and Bourni as well. So perhaps the MT lovers can help me. Why is it that most if not all on this board have been clamouring for Sekac and Bourni to be dressed and no one supports Bourque or Moen. And then they are dressed and we see in short order how much of an improvement Sekac and Bourni are. Why can MT not see what was obvious to most if not all of us? It's ironic that while i'm worried with the possible suspension to Sekac of perhaps 3 games, it is of little consequence as MT is likely not to dress him again for 5 games. DUMB AND DUMBER!!! It's Stephane Quintal as the hockey Inquisitioner, so who knows what he'll decide. I still think there was nothing wrong with Sekac's hit. He hasn't shown any indication of being a dirty player and he was trying to fight off a guy who was holding him while forechecking on Zadorov. As Kypreos, who I don't often agree with, says, if Zadorov doesn't turn and get his back to Sekac, nothing happens. There's no way Sekac can hold up at that point. Despite that, most of the force was hip on hip. He didn't get his arms or shoulder up...nothing. It was the kind of check you put on a video to show kids how to do it properly (without the opponent's head slamming into the glass, of course). DD took a harder hit from Deslauriers earlier, but because he didn't slam into the glass no one said anything. He got hit pretty hard and it shook him. But I'd class it as a clean check as well. Anyway, Sekac showed so much more that I think MT will really be criticized big time if he doesn't play him in the next game. It changed whichever line Sekac was on. Now if Eller would just move the puck better instead of playing keep away, that line might be downright dangerous. Therrien gets his chance to put the momentum killer back on anyway, with Bournival's injury. I'd dress Moen instead. He'll play on the 4th line, provide some PK ability and won't hurt you. The 4th line gets less ice time anyway. Dressing Bourque doesn't replace a penalty killer, and you can't play him on the 4th line, so he'll destroy one line for sure. My two bits, anyway. As far as the game goes, it's two points. Do you guys really think Tokarski played well? I guess he did in a way, because they only put one past him, but if we had a comfort meter, it would be registering close to 1 out of 10. Poor rebound control, often losing sight of the puck. Ok in the shootout though, and he often wins. A rest for Carey, without losing any points...I'll give him that. I hope he gets better at that other stuff, though, I don't need any high blood pressure.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 6, 2014 1:40:14 GMT -5
I watched the game and I can only say one thing....it was like i was forced to watch octogenarian sex......
No fire. No oomph. No second efforts.
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Post by jkr on Nov 6, 2014 7:27:14 GMT -5
any word on Bournival? He didn't return & was favoring his shoulder when he left.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 6, 2014 7:58:03 GMT -5
I just read on Hockey I/O that Tinordi didn't see the ice in the last half of the 3rd? I only saw part of the 1st and from about 5 left in the 3rd onward. Was his benching deserved or was it MT panicking and over playing Markov again?
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 6, 2014 7:59:19 GMT -5
any word on Bournival? He didn't return & was favoring his shoulder when he left. They are saying it's a separated shoulder... Yaaay we get more Bork and probably more Moen (because Sekac got a penalty and buffalo scored on it).
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Post by blny on Nov 6, 2014 8:04:52 GMT -5
Only saw parts of the third, the OT, and shoot out.
If that's all you saw, you wouldn't know Tinordi was dressed.
Pacioretty looks bad all over the ice. He had the puck at the blue line in the third, and made a beyond-soft play resulting in a turnover and Sabres possession in our end for another 30 seconds or more and him icing it.
Liked what I saw from Eller and Sekac together. They created a couple of nice scoring chances.
Galchenyuk and PAP are almost automatic in the SO. My three shooters? AGal, PK, PAP right now.
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Post by jkr on Nov 6, 2014 8:28:11 GMT -5
I just read on Hockey I/O that Tinordi didn't see the ice in the last half of the 3rd? I only saw part of the 1st and from about 5 left in the 3rd onward. Was his benching deserved or was it MT panicking and over playing Markov again? I didn't see anything that would have merited a benching. Who knows anymore.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 6, 2014 8:39:08 GMT -5
Just watched some Galchenyuk vids... boy are we lucky to have him. Gonna be a stud for a long time. I saw some beauty plays by the GEG line and I saw a vid where Cole and Galchy were on a line together. Imagine a Patches-Galchy-Cole line... That would be a true 1st line imo.
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 6, 2014 9:16:16 GMT -5
I don't know guys, I didn't think it was that bad. I mean, it was a snoozer of a game, but this is a Ted Nolan team we were playing against. That's what they do. They clog and trap and chip. Sometimes they fail and get blown out, but when they play THEIR game that's what you get. I thought THEY played exactly the type of game they wanted to play.
As for the good guys, I thought they controlled the play for the better part of the game. As they should against Buffalo of course. They weren't dominant, but I thought they had the better chances, certainly more shot attempts, and in general were the much better team. Again, I'm not saying they were dominant by any stretch, and you never want to go into overtime or a shootout against ANYBODY, because you never know, but I didn't think they stunk out the joint. Sometimes you just win, and that's okay. Given the lack of wins lately I think they'll take it, and as Pacioretty and Therrien were clearly doing, pumping their own tires in the process. I don't for a second think that playing this way will beat Minnesota, but baby steps as mentioned above. Take the win, feel good about yourself, and improve.
As for Tinordi not seeing the ice I understand it. They were going for the win, so you don't really need your defensive rookie out there. Beaulieu for example, played close to 18 minutes, including a shift in OT, and four more after Tinordi was "benched". Otherwise Therrien had shortened his bench and was going for the win. He had Subban and Markov out there every second shift - what's wrong with that?? Besides, didn't we just spend a lot of time psychoanalysing Tinordi's confidence level? Imagine if he gets beaten in OT to prolong the slump? Tie game, the team needed a win, Therrien went with his offensive players. I'm looking at the shift chart, and after Tinordi played his last shift mid-way through the third I see both Dale Weise and Brandon Prust only played two more shifts, and neither one of them played in overtime either. Manny Malhotra got a few more shifts, but they were all in face-off situations. In fact, he had four shifts of less than ten seconds, meaning he jumped right off after the face-off.
Therrien didn't bench Tinordi. He went for the win. I like Tinordi, I really do, but I don't think there are too many people out there who think that if you need a goal Tinordi is the guy you put on the ice.
It was not a pretty game. But they won, they competed, they played better. There is still massive room for improvement, but I think it was a good sign nonetheless.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Nov 6, 2014 10:13:43 GMT -5
It was not a pretty game. But they won, they competed, they played better. There is still massive room for improvement, but I think it was a good sign nonetheless. I thought so too. I saw more instances of gaining the zone with the puck as opposed to dump and chase. There were some things to build on, and we probably had the best forward lineup with Sekac and Bournival in and Moen and Bourque out. I would have liked to see Bournival and Prust's ice time flipped (Brandon's a 4th liner IMO) but at least we had our best guys out there. We needed the 2 points and we got them.
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Post by franko on Nov 6, 2014 10:16:58 GMT -5
sometimes you win ugly. sometimes you win lucky. sometimes you don't deserve to win but you do.
bottom line: 2 points is 2 points. take it, bank it, and look to the next 2 available points.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2014 11:14:55 GMT -5
Therrien didn't bench Tinordi. He went for the win. I like Tinordi, I really do, but I don't think there are too many people out there who think that if you need a goal Tinordi is the guy you put on the ice. It was not a pretty game. But they won, they competed, they played better. There is still massive room for improvement, but I think it was a good sign nonetheless. Shortening his bench? I have to disagree with you. Equally as important as scoring is not giving up a goal. I saw Tinordi make one mistake in the game, in he 2nd when he tried a difficult clearing pass, turned it over and then had to redeem himself with a good defensive play. I also saw him sweep the puck away on a play where Buffalo turned a 3 on 3 into a 4 on 3 because the forechecking forwards didn't come back hard enough (remind you of any other plays in this recent stretch?). I also saw, in the third, in one of those shifts Beaulieu played, that he lost the puck in the Habs zone and Buffalo got a chance to score. FRankly, in a tight game, unless we're behind, I sit Beaulieu and play Tinordi. He's no where neaer as 'exciting', but he's much safer and the outcome is likely to be better. No wonder I question Therrien's judgment. He just has his favourites and takes that route every time. I'm curious to see how he deals with the Bournival injury. Who will play, Moen, Bourque or both? Will Sekac stay in the line-up and for how long? I really think Sekac won't be dressed much longer. Maybe next game, or the game after that, but the first chance Therrien has to send him to the press box, I believe he'll do it. He just has Sekac pegged into that compartment No one in their right mind would continue to support Black Hole Bork, except the guy who's done it for two years in a row...our leader MT. As you can tell, his moves really bug me.
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Post by franko on Nov 6, 2014 11:28:59 GMT -5
I really think Sekac won't be dressed much longer. Maybe next game, or the game after that, but the first chance Therrien has to send him to the press box, I believe he'll do it. He just has Sekac pegged into that compartment I think that Sekac has his bags packed and he's ready to fly back home . . . why stick around if you aren't going to play? wonder if he regrets signing with the Habs. a dozen teams to chose from, he takes the one with history, and sits. he goes anywhere else and he plays. can you imagine our angst if he'd signed with the Leafs, where he'd be an every day player? maybe, just maybe a tad strong [maybe] I no longer call him a coach. he's a bench manager. and yet . . . somehow . . . 9-4-1. magician. smoke and mirrors. whatever, as long as he keeps this up he's here. heck, I thought that without the contract extension he'd be gone by the end of this month. I'da been wrong.
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