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Post by Polarice on Nov 14, 2014 9:37:46 GMT -5
Have to Laugh at Lucic.....everyone sees him as this tough goon, in reality he is nothing but a bully who picks his spots. Any chance of him looking bad he skates away....even if it may spark his team.
Perfect example last night when Subban went after him and challenged him to a fight and lucic decides to skate away. In reality he knows how strong Subban is, he seen his fight in the pre season, he knows he never lost a fight yet, why take the chance of getting his head knocked off.
Lucic is not a team player, he always thinks about himself and not the team, IMO he fits perfectly with the Bruins.
And yes....my coffee also tastes pretty good this morning!!
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Post by Boston_Habs on Nov 14, 2014 9:43:38 GMT -5
Great team win that had everything: primary scoring, secondary scoring, a power play goal, and a positive Corsi rating for the night.
And I loved HOW they were playing. Lots of quick ups through the neutral zone and controlled zone entries. Eller and increasingy Sekac are both very good at gaining the zone by themselves, with speed, and then a quick turn along the wall to try and set up possession. It's easy to rely on dump and chase or lots of passes, but sometimes the best way to gain the zone is a bull rush by a fast, strong player and then set up the attack. That line was great.
And I LOVED, LOVED watching Emelin handing out some big hits. I think that's what energizes him, gives him confidence, and makes him a guy to reckon with back there. He's struggled in other areas but it was great to see him do what he does well and that's hit people.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 14, 2014 9:48:15 GMT -5
Both Chara and Thornton are out of their lineup ... I don't know how long Chara will be out for but after Beaulieu KO'd Fraser Lucic is pretty much standing alone now ... he's about the only pugilist they have left and if he goes down I suspect we'll see the Bruins spiral ... I've also noticed how ineffective Marchand is now that his supporting cast is depleted ...
Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 9:50:02 GMT -5
Both Chara and Thornton are out of their lineup ... I don't know how long Chara will be out for but after Beaulieu KO'd Fraser (the same Fraser who took Moen out) Lucic is pretty much standing alone now ... he's about the only pugilist they have left and if he goes down I suspect we'll see the Bruins spiral ... I've also noticed how ineffective Marchand is now that his supporting cast is depleted ... Cheers. Would Marchand dare punching Sedin continuously now?
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 14, 2014 9:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 14, 2014 10:07:26 GMT -5
Both Chara and Thornton are out of their lineup ... I don't know how long Chara will be out for but after Beaulieu KO'd Fraser (the same Fraser who took Moen out) Lucic is pretty much standing alone now ... he's about the only pugilist they have left and if he goes down I suspect we'll see the Bruins spiral ... I've also noticed how ineffective Marchand is now that his supporting cast is depleted ... Cheers. Would Marchand dare punching Sedin continuously now? Well, this is it, Matt ... I mean, we've been talking about it before, but the only reason Marchand acted the way he did was because he had some heavyweights backing him ... he looked like fast little player last night and that's it ... Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Nov 14, 2014 10:08:48 GMT -5
Would Marchand dare punching Sedin continuously now? Well, this is it, Matt ... I mean, we've been talking about it before, but the only reason Marchand acted the way he did was because he had some heavyweights backing him ... he looked like fast little player last night and that's it ... Cheers. Did Marchand play last night?
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 14, 2014 10:22:03 GMT -5
What was great was watching the Eller line control the zone in the boston end. They are big and strong and can control the boards. It will be interesting to see how they play against a big team like the Blues next week.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:05:36 GMT -5
The frustrating thing is that we can see our guys play a physical game, though they don't do it more often. It was already pointed out that Emelin is most effective when playing physical. When he flops around and tries to nurse calls out of the officials, it's embarrassing...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 14, 2014 12:11:31 GMT -5
The frustrating thing is that we can see our guys play a physical game, though they don't do it more often. It was already pointed out that Emelin is most effective when playing physical. When he flops around and tries to nurse calls out of the officials, it's embarrassing... I honestly thought Plekanec was going to get called for a dive at one point ... he was crossing the blue line and then just flopped to the ice when he was touched ... he got up right away, but I thought it was a dive ... don't need that ... Cheers.
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Post by franko on Nov 14, 2014 12:16:54 GMT -5
The frustrating thing is that we can see our guys play a physical game, though they don't do it more often. It was already pointed out that Emelin is most effective when playing physical. When he flops around and tries to nurse calls out of the officials, it's embarrassing... I honestly thought Plekanec was going to get called for a dive at one point ... he was crossing the blue line and then just flopped to the ice when he was touched ... he got up right away, but I thought it was a dive ... don't need that ... maybe the fact that he got right up and didn't stare down the ref, Dis . . . maybe he's learning.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 14, 2014 13:29:44 GMT -5
Both Chara and Thornton are out of their lineup ... I don't know how long Chara will be out for but after Beaulieu KO'd Fraser (the same Fraser who took Moen out) Lucic is pretty much standing alone now ... he's about the only pugilist they have left and if he goes down I suspect we'll see the Bruins spiral ... I've also noticed how ineffective Marchand is now that his supporting cast is depleted ... Cheers. Would Marchand dare punching Sedin continuously now? Testito or Kassian would destroy him for that.
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Post by blny on Nov 14, 2014 13:50:51 GMT -5
Plekanec 'might be learning', but we were victimized by terrible dives late in the third in each of the last 2 games. A sweep of the stick, one handed, to the shin, does not cause the feet of a player to fall out from under them. What made Enstrom's dive all the worse was that Sekac had completely recoiled his stick when he decided to fall. Both videos should be sent imo. If we're going to get tagged as a team of divers, let's call spades spades.
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Post by blny on Nov 14, 2014 13:53:29 GMT -5
Of course, Bruins' fans complaining that Weise ran Svedberg near the end of a blowout game. I wonder if Jack Edwards & Co. were broadcasting that nonsensical view. That made me laugh about as much as the guy with the Rick Middleton avatar who is convinced his current Bruins team is better than the rest and the Leafs are way better than the Habs. There was one, lonely, voice of reason in that thread's first 11 pages. He criticized the membership for blaming the refs, the league, playing in Montreal, etc. for the team losing. He was the lone guy not to sugar coat it, put an asterisk on it. They played bad, and it was no one's fault but theirs.
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Post by blny on Nov 14, 2014 13:55:42 GMT -5
Have to Laugh at Lucic.....everyone sees him as this tough goon, in reality he is nothing but a bully who picks his spots. Any chance of him looking bad he skates away....even if it may spark his team. Perfect example last night when Subban went after him and challenged him to a fight and lucic decides to skate away. In reality he knows how strong Subban is, he seen his fight in the pre season, he knows he never lost a fight yet, why take the chance of getting his head knocked off. Lucic is not a team player, he always thinks about himself and not the team, IMO he fits perfectly with the Bruins. And yes....my coffee also tastes pretty good this morning!! I've been on this side for years. In reality, it's the whole team. Bullies always cower when presented with a challenge. It's why Bruins players attack from behind, attack smaller players, etc. Hit me will you, with a clean check? Fine, I'm gonna run someone else from behind.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 14, 2014 15:03:17 GMT -5
I passed by......after two shellackings, they are having a meltdown in Bootown.........
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Post by frozone on Nov 14, 2014 15:04:02 GMT -5
I'm very happy that the first line got going last night. Imo, they have been our weakness for most of the year. DD is a great guy and everything, but Eller is now tied with him in points and now also tied in PP points. Dale Weise has more primary assists on Pacioretty goals then DD. Desharnais is 9th in shots on goal amongst forwards. He's on pace for less than 5 goals this year. As far as first line centers go, he's been putting up Gomez-esque numbers. And Max had been floating way more than I've ever seen from him. I don't want to sound too negative here... i'm just trying to show how much room for improvement there is. When the first line is playing well, we're a vastly improved team and I'm hoping last night was their turnaround. If DD and Max can go the rest of the year at 0.8 PPG, then we have the forward lineup of a contender in my opinion.
What a great win that was... I would gladly watch that game all over again.
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Post by blny on Nov 14, 2014 15:15:49 GMT -5
I passed by......after two shellackings, they are having a meltdown in Bootown......... Definitely upset over a number of things. Soft team, lack of heart, lost identity, favoring Gagne over X. I think they've had blinders on. Cap issues, and the increasing age of some of the physical players they relied on, are just two of the reasons they are where they are. They're missing Thornton, but in reality, they've been missing him for 2 years. When your 'tough guy' starts missing extended periods and only has 1PIM per game average, he's lost his effectiveness. The window is closing.
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Post by jkr on Nov 14, 2014 15:27:15 GMT -5
I rarely read HF & when I do I stick to the Habs board. Even there I find them over the top someways. Far too many posts on some things & sane voices seem to get shouted down. Someone started a thread about a month ago complaining about traffic & construction in Montreal. When someone pointed out, reasonably, that this happens in every large city he was ignored. That thread seemed symptomatic of the tone over there. A comment will be made, the herd will follow.
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Post by jkr on Nov 14, 2014 15:27:48 GMT -5
I passed by......after two shellackings, they are having a meltdown in Bootown......... Definitely upset over a number of things. Soft team, lack of heart, lost identity, favoring Gagne over X. I think they've had blinders on. Cap issues, and the increasing age of some of the physical players they relied on, are just two of the reasons they are where they are. They're missing Thornton, but in reality, they've been missing him for 2 years. When your 'tough guy' starts missing extended periods and only has 1PIM per game average, he's lost his effectiveness. The window is closing. Are they wishing for Seguin back?
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Post by Andrew on Nov 14, 2014 15:41:48 GMT -5
Definitely upset over a number of things. Soft team, lack of heart, lost identity, favoring Gagne over X. I think they've had blinders on. Cap issues, and the increasing age of some of the physical players they relied on, are just two of the reasons they are where they are. They're missing Thornton, but in reality, they've been missing him for 2 years. When your 'tough guy' starts missing extended periods and only has 1PIM per game average, he's lost his effectiveness. The window is closing. Are they wishing for Seguin back? But seguin had maturity issues remember? He's not mature enough to play on a team with the likes of Lucic and Marchand ;-)
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Post by jkr on Nov 14, 2014 15:43:46 GMT -5
Of course, Bruins' fans complaining that Weise ran Svedberg near the end of a blowout game. I wonder if Jack Edwards & Co. were broadcasting that nonsensical view. That made me laugh about as much as the guy with the Rick Middleton avatar who is convinced his current Bruins team is better than the rest and the Leafs are way better than the Habs. Well according to TSN, after 3 wins in a row, the leafs are "streaking".
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Post by Andrew on Nov 14, 2014 15:46:02 GMT -5
I'm very happy that the first line got going last night. Imo, they have been our weakness for most of the year. DD is a great guy and everything, but Eller is now tied with him in points and now also tied in PP points. Dale Weise has more primary assists on Pacioretty goals then DD. Desharnais is 9th in shots on goal amongst forwards. He's on pace for less than 5 goals this year. As far as first line centers go, he's been putting up Gomez-esque numbers. And Max had been floating way more than I've ever seen from him. I don't want to sound too negative here... i'm just trying to show how much room for improvement there is. When the first line is playing well, we're a vastly improved team and I'm hoping last night was their turnaround. If DD and Max can go the rest of the year at 0.8 PPG, then we have the forward lineup of a contender in my opinion. What a great win that was... I would gladly watch that game all over again. DD and Max will get it going. Didn't it take DD 20 games to get his first point last year, before ending up with 52 on the season?
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 14, 2014 16:18:04 GMT -5
Have to Laugh at Lucic.....everyone sees him as this tough goon, in reality he is nothing but a bully who picks his spots. Any chance of him looking bad he skates away....even if it may spark his team. You got Lucic all wrong. He is a great thinker and a renown lover. Why? He is pursuing his Phd in Asstropsychics and deep into studying the sexual reproductive habits of koala bears.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 14, 2014 17:18:42 GMT -5
I rarely read HF & when I do I stick to the Habs board. Even there I find them over the top someways. Far too many posts on some things & sane voices seem to get shouted down. Someone started a thread about a month ago complaining about traffic & construction in Montreal. When someone pointed out, reasonably, that this happens in every large city he was ignored. That thread seemed symptomatic of the tone over there. A comment will be made, the herd will follow. Sounds like the old SLAM! Sports boards that weren't moderated in any way ... a few refugees from SLAM! made it over to Cornflake's Hockey World and it was a little bit better but given the right provocations you couldn't escape the pack mentality ... wouldn't surprise me to learn that there's a few former SLAM! reprobates hanging around HF ... I rarely go to HF ... too many one-word or two-word posts and a lot of immaturity ... Cheers.
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Post by christrpn on Nov 14, 2014 17:32:31 GMT -5
Have to Laugh at Lucic.....everyone sees him as this tough goon, in reality he is nothing but a bully who picks his spots. Any chance of him looking bad he skates away....even if it may spark his team. Perfect example last night when Subban went after him and challenged him to a fight and lucic decides to skate away. In reality he knows how strong Subban is, he seen his fight in the pre season, he knows he never lost a fight yet, why take the chance of getting his head knocked off. Lucic is not a team player, he always thinks about himself and not the team, IMO he fits perfectly with the Bruins. And yes....my coffee also tastes pretty good this morning!! That's not what I saw. I saw Subban go after him, Lucic drop his hands like he ws willing to go and Subban taking a stupid crosschecking penalty. So instead of his team missing an important offensive piece and MTL missing their star defensman, his team got a powerplay and a chance to get back in the game. Subban would have shown more leadership doing nothing at all. It would have been better had he dropped the gloves or done nothing at all. Here, Lucic showed poise. Nice legal hit on Sekac, drew a penalty, taking MTL star defensman off the ice as well.
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Post by blny on Nov 14, 2014 18:03:36 GMT -5
Definitely upset over a number of things. Soft team, lack of heart, lost identity, favoring Gagne over X. I think they've had blinders on. Cap issues, and the increasing age of some of the physical players they relied on, are just two of the reasons they are where they are. They're missing Thornton, but in reality, they've been missing him for 2 years. When your 'tough guy' starts missing extended periods and only has 1PIM per game average, he's lost his effectiveness. The window is closing. Are they wishing for Seguin back? At least one referred to it as the worst trade in team history. Others pointed to the fact that the Stars are a bubble team. My response would be sure, the Stars are a bubble team but where would the Bruins be if they still had him?
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Post by christrpn on Nov 14, 2014 18:06:48 GMT -5
Are they wishing for Seguin back? At least one referred to it as the worst trade in team history. Others pointed to the fact that the Stars are a bubble team. My response would be sure, the Stars are a bubble team but where would the Bruins be if they still had him? At this point, would anyone put money on the Bruins making the playoffs?
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Post by franko on Nov 14, 2014 18:47:00 GMT -5
At least one referred to it as the worst trade in team history. Others pointed to the fact that the Stars are a bubble team. My response would be sure, the Stars are a bubble team but where would the Bruins be if they still had him? At this point, would anyone put money on the Bruins making the playoffs? are you kidding? this isn't the leafs. this is a team with their big man out and the rest of them playing like crap. and a GM who isn't afraid to make a move. and a coach who isn't afraid to mix lines up that aren't working. they'll be in the mix, for sure.
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Post by franko on Nov 14, 2014 18:49:38 GMT -5
Have to Laugh at Lucic.....everyone sees him as this tough goon, in reality he is nothing but a bully who picks his spots. Any chance of him looking bad he skates away....even if it may spark his team. Perfect example last night when Subban went after him and challenged him to a fight and lucic decides to skate away. In reality he knows how strong Subban is, he seen his fight in the pre season, he knows he never lost a fight yet, why take the chance of getting his head knocked off. Lucic is not a team player, he always thinks about himself and not the team, IMO he fits perfectly with the Bruins. And yes....my coffee also tastes pretty good this morning!! Here, Lucic showed poise. Nice legal hit on Sekac, drew a penalty, taking MTL star defensman off the ice as well. funny, Knuckles said basically the same thing. that even if Lucy had wanted to go, he didn't have an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other, he had Nealy in one ear and Chiarelli in the other saying "don't you do it". and for once he controlled himself. but the coffee is still good, Reap.
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