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Post by Disp on Mar 4, 2015 18:56:02 GMT -5
We should definitely move Max off the top unit.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 4, 2015 19:50:02 GMT -5
If he ain't working ...
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 4, 2015 20:46:17 GMT -5
With or without Sekac, this team has the personnel to be in the Top 10 PPs.
Sitting 25th at the moment…..which is an utter FAIL!
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 30, 2015 6:51:10 GMT -5
The powerplay while at home is now up to 11th in the league, while on the road it is 29th. Yeah, I just don't get the discrepancy. And perhaps this is why they're reluctant to tinker with it too much. You can't really say it's not working, because it IS working... only just at home. So if you change it up too much maybe you wreck the home percentage by accident. It would be interesting to know what the shots for during each powerplay (home vs away) were like. If they're more or less the same then maybe you could attribute it to a statistical fluke, a blip in the cosmic order of things, and decide to best leave the universe alone lest you cause a black hole to open up and kill us all. But if there appears to be a big difference in the opportunities during each powerplay then you have to wonder what is going on. I don't have the answer, but I still find it very strange. It's not unique to Montreal mind you, as there are several teams with huge differences in their success rates, depending on whether they are at home or on the road. Most notably Minnesota, LA, Tampa and Boston (and Toronto). Minnesota, with all that offensive firepower, actually has a WORSE powerplay than we do (and Anaheim is only 0.01% ahead). But on the flip side (where I will catch you) there are some teams that are BETTER on the road, and in some cases significantly so. Like St. Louis and Chicago.
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Post by Disp on Mar 30, 2015 7:14:40 GMT -5
Could just be last change. I haven't looked, but maybe PK and Markov get more ice time on the road. If they're out there and a little tired, well, it may make a difference.
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 9, 2015 13:59:47 GMT -5
Minnesota: 28th Anaheim: 26th Nashville: 24th Montreal: 23rd NY Rangers: 21st Chicago: 20th Tampa: 17th Seven of the top nine teams in the NHL, and not one of them has an above average power-play.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 9, 2015 14:10:06 GMT -5
Doesn't excuse ours though, IMO
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Post by franko on Apr 9, 2015 14:26:23 GMT -5
not at all. nor does the "there aren't as many penalties in the playoffs". there are still some, and ya gotta score when you've got them.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 23, 2015 15:45:44 GMT -5
Heard Ray Ferraro today on Melnick's show…..talking about our PP.
Paraphrased:
Montreal seems to love the long pass between Markov and Subban for the one-timer. It's a 70-footer.
Now, you watch a team like Washington….and Ovechkin rarely gets a 70-foot pass for his one-timers…..it's a 20-foot pass.
That's the difference…..
The other team has enough time to prepare when the pass is 70 feet.
Also…the PP shots from the point have to be below the waist….otherwise screening players will get out of the way….and the goalie sees it or it hits him in the crest.
The shots have to be in the legs….
Montreal's shots seem to be at the waist or above….
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Post by jkr on Apr 23, 2015 16:05:45 GMT -5
What drives me crazy is the reliance on something that doesn't work and they have known it doesn't work all season. There are short bursts of success & that gives the team an excuse to keep going with the status quo.
Why don't they try something new? What could it hurt. Pateryn had 15 goals last season in Hamilton. At least it's a new face for the opposition to think about. With a good PP maybe they don't have to go to OT in games 2 & 3 and maybe they win game 4.
So much is on the line but they just won't change. It's baffling - and infuriating.
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Post by HFTO on Apr 23, 2015 16:11:45 GMT -5
Sigh ..... Not sure why MT can't mix it up give me a a big body who can battle up front try Lars maybe DSP get some movement come of the half board just don't pass it around the perimeter and blast away every time withe the same cast and in most cases DD and Gallagher whom work hard enough but are too small to cause effective havoc in front.
1-16 won't cut it
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Post by seventeen on Apr 23, 2015 16:15:58 GMT -5
You have to see the big picture. We're up 3-1.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 23, 2015 17:00:54 GMT -5
Heard Ray Ferraro today on Melnick's show…..talking about our PP. Paraphrased: Montreal seems to love the long pass between Markov and Subban for the one-timer. It's a 70-footer.
Now, you watch a team like Washington….and Ovechkin rarely gets a 70-foot pass for his one-timers…..it's a 20-foot pass.
That's the difference…..
The other team has enough time to prepare when the pass is 70 feet.
Also…the PP shots from the point have to be below the waist….otherwise screening players will get out of the way….and the goalie sees it or it hits him in the crest.
The shots have to be in the legs….
Montreal's shots seem to be at the waist or above…. Ray Ferraro ....Mr. Stating The Obvious ... Short quick puck movement, where have I heard that before? Lol
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Post by Disp on Apr 24, 2015 17:03:01 GMT -5
Really need to get our forwards doing something other than being "decoys" for the PK or Markov shot. They create nothing, and even worse, they don't get the pk moving, which equals no open lanes. It's tough to get the shot through.
I don't think Markov and PK are the problem. Sometimes they try and blast it through cause if they didn't, we'd spend the whole pp just passing around the outside.
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Post by stoat on Apr 28, 2015 15:57:48 GMT -5
The Habs have about 5 days off, during which time they should work not only on their PP but on their ES scoring. They shouldn't have to go to OT with teams that are less than or equal to them because their chances of losing are considerable even with Price in goal.
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Post by HFTO on May 6, 2015 18:41:34 GMT -5
Can't get grade A chance from scoring areas....all perimeter fluff.... Times of sand are running out
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Post by HFTO on May 6, 2015 19:21:59 GMT -5
No puck luck despite the effort just doesn't look like it will happen....just need the next one sooner than later
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Post by Doc Holliday on Sept 1, 2015 11:42:30 GMT -5
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Post by stoat on Oct 10, 2015 23:17:14 GMT -5
Plekanec won more faceoffs than Bergeron in the recently concluded game against the Bruins. That's good enough for me.
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Post by UberCranky on Oct 12, 2015 13:03:58 GMT -5
If we can keep a thread up for a year on the same issue, what is coaching doing about it? Actually it's now a 3 year issue and still as bad as three years ago.
For me, it's a Subban issue. The guys are playing lazy "pass it to Subban and he'll throw the bomb". Not working. Not even close. We MUST get back to basics and create chaos in front of the net rather then playing high.....and hoping that the other goalie reverts to junior level and let's in a 50 footer.
I actually saw the man leave the front of the net to go and do what? Create a five man passing unit in front of their 4 man box unit? What the hell? Are we that stupid abnd slow to play to THEIR defensive alignment?
This is ALL on the coaching. Period. End of story.
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Post by franko on Oct 12, 2015 14:30:57 GMT -5
I actually saw the man leave the front of the net to go and do what? save his skin, in all likelihood. would you want to stand in front of one of his shots? who went down after being hit last night? Flynn? Mitchell? whoever . . . it had to hurt. but yes, too PK dependent. no creativity. equals no goals.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 12, 2015 15:03:19 GMT -5
PK has to start consistently wristing the puck at the net. That will ensure that a) he gets it past the top forward, b) players will be willing to stand in front to block the goalie's view and c) it gives us a chance for deflections and rebounds as well as forcing one of the box defenders to come in to check the guy in front. Goal #3 last night was a slow motion goal. Not a 100 MPH bomb, but O'Connor was totally screened and Mitchell made a very simple deflection. PK barely got anything on it as he was being checked. That should be the first, very simple adjustment we make.
Secondly we need to avoid going back to the point as often as we do. We need to practice passes across that boxed area in front of the net. It's statistically proven that more goals come from that tactic than any other. We saw that as well in our only PP goal this year. If you and I can see the problems and propose solutions, one has to wonder why the braintrust hasn't made changes yet. We're not pros but we're not rank amateurs either. Now perhaps they're working on that and just haven't executed worth a damn. It's really disappointing since their possession game (5 on 5) has improved from last year, at least against poor opponents. We had most of the play against Ottawa, too, and they usually give us fits, so that was a nice change. Baby steps?
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 24, 2015 9:51:15 GMT -5
Going 2/3 vs. Buffalo moved us to the middle of the pack @ 19.4% (6/31).
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Post by Skilly on Nov 6, 2015 9:00:08 GMT -5
After starting the season 9.5% (2/21) on the powerplay, the team has been on a 35.5% (11/31) pace since.
The Habs are now 3rd overall on the PP @ 25.0%, and second overall on the PK @89.8%
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Post by seventeen on Nov 6, 2015 12:01:58 GMT -5
After starting the season 9.5% (2/21) on the powerplay, the team has been on a 35.5% (11/31) pace since. The Habs are now 3rd overall on the PP @ 25.0%, and second overall on the PK @89.8% And all it took was removing Mr Lacroix from the steering wheel. No real changes in personnel. He was also the guy credited with deciding to challenge the goalie interference call that negated Plek's goal against Ottawa. It would be hard to find anyone else who didn't think it was goalie interference. Even Therrien was seen shaking his head after viewing the replay. What's with Lacroix's judgment?
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Post by frozone on Nov 6, 2015 15:00:07 GMT -5
Maybe Lacroix plays the good cop on the coaching staff, responsible for keeping an open dialogue with the players and whatnot. If that's his bread and butter, he should just stick to it and leave the thinking to Michel Therrien JJ Daigneault.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 6, 2015 15:07:38 GMT -5
Addition by both addition (Ramsay) and deletion (Lacroix).
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 27, 2015 14:39:40 GMT -5
POWER PLAY: As of Friday, Nov. 27, 2016.
3rd overall @ 24.4%. 20 PP goals (tied for 1st).
2nd overall in penalty-kill @ 86.4%.
Hats off to the changes in coaching assignments….
If we remain at or near these levels, all good!
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 27, 2015 15:35:49 GMT -5
POWER PLAY: As of Friday, Nov. 27, 2016. 3rd overall @ 24.4%. 20 PP goals (tied for 1st). 2nd overall in penalty-kill @ 86.4%. Hats off to the changes in coaching assignments…. If we remain at or near these levels, all good! Last year the power play at home was 22.1%. It was only on the road that we struggled, with a pathetic 10.7%. This year it's at a more evenly balanced 25.5% and 22.9%, home and away. <shrug>
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 27, 2015 15:50:50 GMT -5
It's taken the heat off the goaltending to a degree…..but I'm looking forward to seeing if we can remain near the top of the PP stats in the playoffs.
Last year was simply brutal….and it let us down....
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