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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 1, 2014 23:40:45 GMT -5
Going to have to have one more scotch tonight ... Sekac/Eller/Prust spent a lot of time in the offensive zone ... Subban/Markov logging the minutes tonight ... Galchenyuk again ... I'd like to see him paired with Sekac eventually ... Roy had good reason to be pissed after that lame offside call ... it was only Colorado, but you've got to beat these guys ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 1, 2014 23:42:22 GMT -5
Oh sure. Just cause I editorialized, my thread finished second. Nm is cheating. Just caught the last 8 minutes or so on an internet feed. the boys looked good, but we were helped out a lot by a rather inept Colorado defensive effort. I don't think they know the meaning of backcheck. Also, explain to me how Patches can find holes in every goalie, but can't hit an empty net. That Eller line, even in the short time I watched, looked pretty good. That was a fine rush where Sekac got open to take the Prust feed. The picture wasn't good enough for me to see how the puck went, but it looked like Pickard saved it. A road win vs the West. Could be worse.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 1, 2014 23:45:18 GMT -5
Oh sure. Just cause I editorialized, my thread finished second. Nm is cheating. ... definitely having another scotch now ... Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 23:46:16 GMT -5
Just saw highlights for all of our goals. None of them were pretty (Markov's was, maybe), but considering the clinic we saw on Saturday, this is certainly welcome.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 1, 2014 23:52:19 GMT -5
Pickard played very well, and if not for him, this game would've been over much earlier.
Very pleased with the effort...we fought back twice in that game. From 2-1 down and 3-2 down.
Also nice to see some creative play from Subban in the offensive zone....a couple of times tonight. And what a shot.
(And how about that double-poster from Duchene.....ahhh...it made up for Prust knocking in an own-goal.)
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Post by seventeen on Dec 2, 2014 0:00:29 GMT -5
Pickard played very well, and if not for him, this game would've been over much earlier. Perhaps, but I am tired of all these goalies having good games against us. It seems too bad to be true, because it is! We're making these guys look like Vezina candidates. A bit more skill, more clinical finishing, even a few more lucky bounces here and there and we wouldn't making these guys stars of the game. Let's start with as simple a tactic as getting people in front of the net. If they can't see the puck, it's hard for them to make those saves. For that reason alone, I can't wait for Mike McCarron to show up. He has no problem at all standing in front, staying in front and making a much better door than window.
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Post by PTH on Dec 2, 2014 0:45:34 GMT -5
Pretty solid effort all-around, though we're a bit like the Avs: a defense with 2 decent names and a lot of 5th and 6th D (in our case, Emelin should be a #3 or #4, but his play doesn't warrant that status.) Even worse, our top 2 can't seem to gel with any other partners, so whenever they're not on the ice, I'm worried.
Subban showing more and more spunk. But I wonder if he still feels a tad deferential to Markov and wants to pass him the puck instead of blasting away at it.
Sekac had a strong game, though I don't know why anyone thinks he excels at entering the zone with the puck, his favorite play is to bounce it deep off the boards and try and be first to it.
Eller worries me in the defensive zone, I worry he'll never be a solid defensive player, he seems to want to think offense before he's even out of his own zone, costing us turnovers...
These Avs kind of remind me of the Nordiques we knocked off in '93: very strong offensively, but not yet a mature team.
MT seemed to try and keep some spunk on all the lines, rotating PAP out and Weise in for a few shifts by the top line. I have to say I really like Weise there, though I know he doesn't really have the talent to keep up.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 2, 2014 1:32:45 GMT -5
Didn't see a lot of dump-and-chase tonight ... good transition game ... Prust fits in well with Eller and Sekac ... he's working with great linemates and doing well ...
Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 2, 2014 2:27:01 GMT -5
With each failed attempt/blown opportunity for the empty-netter, I thought, "The Avs are gonna tie it and get the extra point, too..." (hockey god-speak).
We've been so weak at that in recent times, it seems.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 2, 2014 2:43:57 GMT -5
Doesn't Patches score a lot when Weise plays with him ? That's the chemistry, not necessarily with DD.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 2, 2014 9:20:54 GMT -5
With each failed attempt/blown opportunity for the empty-netter, I thought, "The Avs are gonna tie it and get the extra point, too..." (hockey god-speak). We've been so weak at that in recent times, it seems. I'd be lying if I said I felt different ... just put the game away already ... Cheers.
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Post by frozone on Dec 2, 2014 9:34:03 GMT -5
Doesn't Patches score a lot when Weise plays with him ? That's the chemistry, not necessarily with DD. Yup, they perform surprisingly well together. I looked into it a few games back. At the time, Weise had more primary assists on Pacioretty goals than DD. I also find Patches and Pleks show a lot of chemistry when on the PK together. Patches had a strong game last night, I thought. DD played hard and hustled but fell a lot and annoyed me. Doesn't matter, though: he's paid to produce, not to look good. Last night, he played 15 minutes (where it should be imo) and produced a point. Is it just me or was Tangradi noticeable out there in a good way? Not as physical as Moen, but he's younger and cheaper and looks less out of place in the offensive zone. Had a couple good shifts with Weise, who also looked pretty good imo. Weaver with 7 minutes? He's been no worse than Emelin... Regardless, I've been on MT's case for punishing rookies more severely than vets, so this counts as development on MT's part. I just wouldn't have singled out Weaver. Great 2-way game by PK. Great outlet passes, played at a perfect pace and did not sacrifice his defensive responsibilities. I would prefer having a 50 pt 2-way PK Subban over a 70 pt purely offensive version.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 9:52:26 GMT -5
Roy had good reason to be pissed after that lame offside call ... it was only Colorado, but you've got to beat these guys ... Cheers. That was definitely a botched call. Even from the broadcasting angle, it didn't look like it cleared the zone.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 2, 2014 10:22:01 GMT -5
Doesn't Patches score a lot when Weise plays with him ? That's the chemistry, not necessarily with DD. Yup, they perform surprisingly well together. I looked into it a few games back. At the time, Weise had more primary assists on Pacioretty goals than DD. I also find Patches and Pleks show a lot of chemistry when on the PK together. Patches had a strong game last night, I thought. DD played hard and hustled but fell a lot and annoyed me. Doesn't matter, though: he's paid to produce, not to look good. Last night, he played 15 minutes (where it should be imo) and produced a point. Is it just me or was Tangradi noticeable out there in a good way? Not as physical as Moen, but he's younger and cheaper and looks less out of place in the offensive zone. Had a couple good shifts with Weise, who also looked pretty good imo. Weaver with 7 minutes? He's been no worse than Emelin... Regardless, I've been on MT's case for punishing rookies more severely than vets, so this counts as development on MT's part. I just wouldn't have singled out Weaver. Great 2-way game by PK. Great outlet passes, played at a perfect pace and did not sacrifice his defensive responsibilities. I would prefer having a 50 pt 2-way PK Subban over a 70 pt purely offensive version. At least Weise goes into the corners ... he's very hard to knock off the puck and he fights for everything ... when was the last time Pacioretty had someone like that on his line ... I don't know, but maybe try putting Galchenyuk at centre with these guys and see how that works out ... Tangradi was a good acquistion ... he's another player that fits into Bergevin's image for the team ... 6'4", 221 lbs, young (25) and cheap ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Dec 2, 2014 10:37:26 GMT -5
Avs D coverage is pretty bad. We had a lot of odd man rushes. On the final goal, we had 2 2-on-1s on that shift alone. DD bungled his with Weise, and Max did what he's supposed to.
Re the goals against, the Briere one could have been avoided with Carey playing the puck better. I've said it before, but for a guy who can handle the puck he makes poor decisions with it. Barrie's goal was pure luck going in off a desperate back checker. Did ROR's goal at the start of the second go in clean? Looked like it went in off Markov's stick.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 2, 2014 10:56:46 GMT -5
Price had a very solid outing….key saves at key moments. That game was as losable as it was winnable.
Reminded me of how we played at the beginning of the season….finding a way to come back while Price holds the fort.
RE: Weaver. I don't know for sure, but I bet his ice dwindled greatly after that deep pinch that resulted in the 4-on-1 against.
I was surprised that Sekac got only 12:29….whenever he was on the ice, he was noticeable.
Yes, he was part of the Bermuda Triangle along with Eller and Weaver on Briere's goal….but that shouldn't have reduced his time.
He, like Pacioretty, seemed to suffer a wrist/hand injury during the game….but both shook it off.
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Post by blny on Dec 2, 2014 11:03:13 GMT -5
I thought Max looked good. He created turnovers and had a lot of prime shots.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 11:31:19 GMT -5
I thought Max looked good. He created turnovers and had a lot of prime shots. He made space for himself, and there was also a fair bit given by the Avs' d-zone coverage.
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Post by blny on Dec 2, 2014 11:40:52 GMT -5
I thought Max looked good. He created turnovers and had a lot of prime shots. He made space for himself, and there was also a fair bit given by the Avs' d-zone coverage. Definitely. The Avs didn't press him when he was the primary puck carrier, and Max found the holes in their zone. Going forward, for the Avs to get to the next level, they're going to have to address the defensive side of their game.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 12:09:55 GMT -5
He made space for himself, and there was also a fair bit given by the Avs' d-zone coverage. Definitely. The Avs didn't press him when he was the primary puck carrier, and Max found the holes in their zone. Going forward, for the Avs to get to the next level, they're going to have to address the defensive side of their game. Our d-corps isn't all that much better, sadly. Too many times opposing forwards enter our zone with ease and are allowed a good scoring opportunity.
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Post by blny on Dec 2, 2014 12:31:49 GMT -5
Definitely. The Avs didn't press him when he was the primary puck carrier, and Max found the holes in their zone. Going forward, for the Avs to get to the next level, they're going to have to address the defensive side of their game. Our d-corps isn't all that much better, sadly. Too many times opposing forwards enter our zone with ease and are allowed a good scoring opportunity. Agreed. Some of that falls on the forwards. Both teams could do better jobs as 5 man units.
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Post by jkr on Dec 2, 2014 12:47:52 GMT -5
Avs D coverage is pretty bad. We had a lot of odd man rushes. On the final goal, we had 2 2-on-1s on that shift alone. DD bungled his with Weise, and Max did what he's supposed to. Re the goals against, the Briere one could have been avoided with Carey playing the puck better. I've said it before, but for a guy who can handle the puck he makes poor decisions with it. Barrie's goal was pure luck going in off a desperate back checker. Did ROR's goal at the start of the second go in clean? Looked like it went in off Markov's stick. I find Price appears too casual. On the 1st goal I think he may have caught Weaver by surprise when he went to the backhand instead of going up the boards on his forehand. Other times he gives up the puck with a poor clearing attempt when the play is best left to a D man. Saw that happen once or twice against Buffalo.
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Post by blny on Dec 2, 2014 12:52:44 GMT -5
Avs D coverage is pretty bad. We had a lot of odd man rushes. On the final goal, we had 2 2-on-1s on that shift alone. DD bungled his with Weise, and Max did what he's supposed to. Re the goals against, the Briere one could have been avoided with Carey playing the puck better. I've said it before, but for a guy who can handle the puck he makes poor decisions with it. Barrie's goal was pure luck going in off a desperate back checker. Did ROR's goal at the start of the second go in clean? Looked like it went in off Markov's stick. I find Price appears too casual. On the 1st goal I think he may have caught Weaver by surprise when he went to the backhand instead of going up the boards on his forehand. Other times he gives up the puck with a poor clearing attempt when the play is best left to a D man. Saw that happen once or twice against Buffalo. Yep. It's an all too common thing imo.
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