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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 21:52:37 GMT -5
Lousy PP again, weak 3rd period.
Questionable non-call on Sid's OT winner. Can't be NHL hockey without controversy, I guess.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 10, 2015 21:59:47 GMT -5
I give it 2 games and dd is back on the first line and galchy is on the wing.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 10, 2015 22:04:29 GMT -5
I'm happy we got a point but man am I pissed. Our play in the third was awful, the reffing was awful and our stupidity with 5 minutes to go was unconscionable.
Before Max missed the wide open net i was wondering if he was injured as didn't see him or hear his name. Markov had an awful game - poor passing, beaten like a rented mule on a long trip, and bad turn overs.
Pleks played great and stymied The Whiner all night until he broke his stick in OT. By the way, does Crosby whine at the refs after every whistle?
After Gilbert got his penalty for interference there was an even worse interference by the Pens the Pens PP which went uncalled and then they call Emelin on a questionable hook when the Pens had been waterskiing on our backs all night.
Has anyone seen the too-many men replay. CBC was too busy swooning over Crosby's OT winner on a 4 on 2 PP.
How many unforced icings and turnovers did we have in the last 5 minutes. They should just be playing for the point. Instead we have to rely on Carey over and over again because MT and his players are downright stupid!!!
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Post by Disp on Jan 10, 2015 22:19:11 GMT -5
Well, at least the pp isn't hiding any warts. It'd be a heck of a lot easier if that got going.
Price can get us points even if the rest are mediocre.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 10, 2015 22:29:50 GMT -5
Thought the playing of the French national anthem was spot on!! ... class move ... disappointed in that game ... Pacioretty had the game on his stick but missed ... that's not why we lost, though ... that PP was putrid ... again ...
Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Jan 10, 2015 22:39:21 GMT -5
The PP is at 14% - that means they need 7 PPs to score 1 goal. Pathetic. Half the season goes by & it's still not fixed. It definitely cost them this game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 23:00:27 GMT -5
Pleks played great and stymied The Whiner all night until he broke his stick in OT. By the way, does Crosby whine at the refs after every whistle? Does he? Must be nice to be a superstar.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 10, 2015 23:15:01 GMT -5
Didn't see the game but don't need to, to be ticked over scoring only one goal.....again.
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Post by folatre on Jan 11, 2015 1:53:54 GMT -5
The last two games are frustrating considering Montreal got to the lead in both.
It is nice to be comfortably in playoff position at middle of long season. Price has been great. It would be nice to rely less on him stealing points, but the goal scoring is what it is and being honest unless the power play gets better I do not envision the goals per game to get better. There are simply not enough high end forwards on the roster and even among the second tier guys no one is having anything like a career year.
If it was me, Markov and Gonchar would get a few nights off during the long winter.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 11, 2015 2:45:35 GMT -5
One thing you can never accuse MT of is thinking long term. With him it's one game at a time. Period. If he needs Markov and Gonchar tomorrow, they'll play, regardless of whether it costs the team in April.
Having said that, he may be right. We're only 8 points ahead of the playoff cutoff spot. With loser points, that's hard to make up for other teams, but not impossible. We keep scoring like an acne'd 16 year old at a prom party and we'll be out of the playoffs. Gotta change a mindset, Michel. You have to open the spigot a little bit.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 11, 2015 3:10:09 GMT -5
One thing you can never accuse MT of is thinking long term. With him it's one game at a time. Period. If he needs Markov and Gonchar tomorrow, they'll play, regardless of whether it costs the team in April. Having said that, he may be right. We're only 8 points ahead of the playoff cutoff spot. With loser points, that's hard to make up for other teams, but not impossible. We keep scoring like an acne'd 16 year old at a prom party and we'll be out of the playoffs. Gotta change a mindset, Michel. You have to open the spigot a little bit. LOL. If you're suggesting MB and MT need a heavy coating of Clearasil to cover the warts I wouldn't disagree. Maybe that's what we should call Carey. With Carey, many blemishes go unnoticed.
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Post by jkr on Jan 11, 2015 10:38:13 GMT -5
One thing you can never accuse MT of is thinking long term. With him it's one game at a time. Period. If he needs Markov and Gonchar tomorrow, they'll play, regardless of whether it costs the team in April. Having said that, he may be right. We're only 8 points ahead of the playoff cutoff spot. With loser points, that's hard to make up for other teams, but not impossible. We keep scoring like an acne'd 16 year old at a prom party and we'll be out of the playoffs. Gotta change a mindset, Michel. You have to open the spigot a little bit. LOL. If you're suggesting MB and MT need a heavy coating of Clearasil to cover the warts I wouldn't disagree. Maybe that's what we should call Carey. With Carey, many blemishes go unnoticed. How about that stuff on the infomercials - Proactiv. It's the more expensive version of Clearasil.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 11, 2015 11:24:22 GMT -5
It takes a lot to even rouse my hopes….which means it doesn't take much for the pessimism to creep back.
I'm not liking January's remaining schedule.
A lot of teams that always give us trouble.
@columbus, @ottawa, Islanders, Nashville, Dallas, @rangers, Washington.
The season-long trend has been over-reliance on Price, accentuated by a downright disgusting PP.
The current playoff position is anything but secure, IMO.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 11, 2015 13:32:57 GMT -5
It takes a lot to even rouse my hopes….which means it doesn't take much for the pessimism to creep back. I'm not liking January's remaining schedule. A lot of teams that always give us trouble. @columbus, @ottawa, Islanders, Nashville, Dallas, @rangers, Washington. The season-long trend has been over-reliance on Price, accentuated by a downright disgusting PP. The current playoff position is anything but secure, IMO. I agree. If you accept 90 points or 10 games over 500 to get into the playoffs we don't have much of a cushion. If the PP doesn't improve or we have any injuries to key players we are toast.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 11, 2015 14:25:18 GMT -5
Just saw the highlights…..Letang skates by and his stick breaks Pleks' stick. Whatever happened to the automatic stick-break penalty? Most of those calls are ridiculous in their innocence.
Only in Montreal….
Guaranteed if a Hab broke a Pens' stick in a similar situation, Hughson would've argued it.
As we've done several times this year, we had the chance to steal the second point in a SO, banking on Price's heroics.
But the caprice of the refs took it away. A 4-on-2 is pretty much impossible to break up/stop.
Lemme guess….it was an incidental stick break. Letang didn't mean to do it.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 11, 2015 16:41:27 GMT -5
Just saw the highlights…..Letang skates by and his stick breaks Pleks' stick. Whatever happened to the automatic stick-break penalty? Most of those calls are ridiculous in their innocence. Only in Montreal…. Guaranteed if a Hab broke a Pens' stick in a similar situation, Hughson would've argued it. As we've done several times this year, we had the chance to steal the second point in a SO, banking on Price's heroics. But the caprice of the refs took it away. A 4-on-2 is pretty much impossible to break up/stop. Lemme guess….it was an incidental stick break. Letang didn't mean to do it. A hockey play gone bad.... what a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 23:11:43 GMT -5
Ruined a pretty good game by Beaulieu, too.
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Post by stoat on Jan 12, 2015 0:35:11 GMT -5
It takes a lot to even rouse my hopes….which means it doesn't take much for the pessimism to creep back. I'm not liking January's remaining schedule. A lot of teams that always give us trouble. @columbus, @ottawa, Islanders, Nashville, Dallas, @rangers, Washington. The season-long trend has been over-reliance on Price, accentuated by a downright disgusting PP. The current playoff position is anything but secure, IMO. Frankly, I don't see the difference between playing those troublesome teams now or later. The games have to be played, they can't be deferred to next season. Let's get them out of the way. Who knows, the Habs may win some of those games.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 12, 2015 7:53:02 GMT -5
I'm just saying that many of those teams generally give us trouble, no matter how we're playing.
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Post by BadCompany on Jan 12, 2015 9:30:15 GMT -5
I thought it was a pretty good game myself. Considering that 99 times out of 100 we win it on that Pacioretty shot that missed the net. I'm not going to apologize for having Carey Price in goal, and frankly speaking I don't get this obsession about him being the best player on the team, and thus winning games for us. Isn't that what the best player on the team is supposed to do? Do the Hawks apologize for having Jonathon Toews? The Penguins for having Sydney Crosby? The Predators for having Pekka Rinne? Honestly, I don't even think he's stolen that many games for us. He's been good yes, and won a lot of games no doubt, but I wouldn't put him in the Jose Theodore, or even Jaroslav Halak class of winning games we had NO business winning whatsoever. Sure, he has won a lot of games for us where we have been outplayed, and perhaps would have lost with a lesser goalie, but not nearly to the level of those previous two if you ask me. And again, Price is one of the six players on the ice. I don't think we should have to apologize for him being the best one.
Let me ask you this; let's take away Price and put in another NHL goalie. Say the aforementioned Halak. Would we be as good. No. Would we be the Buffalo Sabres? No, not by a long shot. We may not be a playoff team, but we'd be pretty close in my opinion, and you could make the same argument for just about any other team. Take Toews away from the Hawks and are they as good? Of course not.
So while I would certainly like the team to be more dominant in all aspects of play I'm not going to complain too much about being dominant in goal. In my opinion it's a pretty good thing.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jan 12, 2015 10:00:18 GMT -5
The Tampa and Pittsburgh game were mini barometers for me. We were hot and playing at home against the two best teams in the conference. I thought we were thoroughly dominated by Tampa and while the Pittsburgh game was better, the Pens really took it to us down the stretch. More work to do.
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Post by Polarice on Jan 12, 2015 10:20:58 GMT -5
The Tampa and Pittsburgh game were mini barometers for me. We were hot and playing at home against the two best teams in the conference. I thought we were thoroughly dominated by Tampa and while the Pittsburgh game was better, the Pens really took it to us down the stretch. More work to do. Agreed, we are close but we are still missing a horse or two!!
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Post by seventeen on Jan 12, 2015 15:59:00 GMT -5
I didn't want to start a new thread for this, so it's going here.
The lines at practice today were:
Max-Pleks-Gally
DD-Eller-Weise
Prust-Chucky-PAP
Bournival-MM-Sekac
So Galchy's been pulled of Max's line. Is Pacioretty's line automatically the #1 line? Probably. Anyway, I don't disagree with pairing Galchy and Prust. Other teams are testing Galchy's toughness recently and it's good to have Brandon nearby to discourage that line of thinking. I wouldn't have PAP on that line though a I prefer Sekac. And while Weise can cover on a top 9 line when there's an injury, I don't like this trend of having him up there for so many games. Sekac's confidence is a little down, but I don't know about the 4th line. That's about 6 minutes a game and he's worth much more than that.
Overall, there's a little thought here, but it seem more like trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat. Let's hop Pleks can work with Patches and Gallagher (I also don't think Gally's a #1 winger yet). Then again, we don't have a #1 right winger. MT is doing his darndest to get DD back to the team's #1 center spot. If wishes were Toonies. Desharnais' been quite good matched up against lower quality opponents, so let's move him back up the scale to make him less effective. At least that's how I see it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it and DD on the 3rd line was not broken.
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