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Post by CentreHice on Jan 17, 2015 21:51:46 GMT -5
Solid response to last night's game.
We keep showing that we belong near the top...but there's that nagging feeling that it's not there yet, Cup-wise. Progress to be sure.
Beaulieu...looking really good.
Lots more to talk about...have at it.
Habs win...Leafs lose...all is good.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 17, 2015 21:59:18 GMT -5
Good to see our club wear the Islanders down in this one ... not sure what he has in mind but Therrien might consider keeping those line combinations together ... strong games by all of the lines I thought ... going to the net ... what a concept ... good on the Habs for not sitting back in the 3rd ... keeping pace with Tampa Bay is always good ... Leafs lose again, eh ... by shutout too, eh ...
Cheers.
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Post by Dschens on Jan 17, 2015 21:59:33 GMT -5
CH, the Sens game was on Thursday. Ruins lost too. Good win although I would've liked to see our boys shut them down in the 3rd period.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 21:59:36 GMT -5
Our last game was Thursday, CH, not last night.
I know we like to say "no excuses" regardless of when a team plays, but if you do play the night before and have to travel a fair distance to play again the next night, it does take a fair bit out of you. Isles looked gassed for parts of the game, but some sub-par goaltending made this a closer game than it probably should have been.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 17, 2015 22:01:48 GMT -5
CH I love ya and hate Healy but Habs did not play last night.
NYI looked like they played last night - sort of like us against Ott. Having said that I find it hard to believe the Isles are at the top. They got a good first line, mostly Tavares but after that a bunch of no names who don't look that good. Boychuk on the first unit PP? they didn't show anything tonight but maybe they were tired. Or do they rely on Halak who was off tonight.
One thing that bothered me is the Isles seemed like a team with an edge, often hitting late and cheap. I don't think we have a response for that other than Prust and Wiese.Do we have the toughness?
Not impressed with Toker. Lee's goal was bad and changed the outlook of the game.
Chucky back on the wing and played well but.....
Pleks liking the #1 role! Seems like we're back to 4 centres for 3 positions.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 17, 2015 22:04:49 GMT -5
CH, the Sens game was on Thursday. Ruins lost too. Good win although I would've liked to see our boys shut them down in the 3rd period. Did you notice how pissed off Halak was when he went to the dressing room ... man, was he miffed ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 17, 2015 22:05:04 GMT -5
CH, the Sens game was on Thursday. Ruins lost too. Good win although I would've liked to see our boys shut them down in the 3rd period. Right...doh! It was the back-to-back of the Columbus game. Thanks guys. I'll EDIT.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 17, 2015 22:21:28 GMT -5
CH, the Sens game was on Thursday. Ruins lost too. Good win although I would've liked to see our boys shut them down in the 3rd period. Did you notice how pissed off Halak was when he went to the dressing room ... man, was he miffed ... Cheers. Apparently Halak had never lost to us since the trade. He actually played pretty well to keep the Isles in it but then the dam burst.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 17, 2015 22:54:44 GMT -5
Halak has probably never faced a DD shot in practice before, only passes.
Toker made it close, the boys closed the door. Wings for the fans.
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Post by PTH on Jan 18, 2015 0:08:44 GMT -5
Solid all-around game. Other than Weaver being a tad rusty, I can't really fault anyone over this game. I do find that Bournival puts himself at risk too often, and I don't expect him to become much of anything.
I really liked Thomas's game, and I prefer him to Parenteau, actually. All that is saying something given that my expectations for Thomas were extremely low, I'm even surprised to see him in the NHL.
Beaulieu was solid once again, and showed some plays where he generated offense and should get points eventually; but the best D was Subban, who played an all-around solid game, with a little dipsy-doodling, but never too badly considered, and mostly, he didn't mess up while doing it.
Prust showed some speed on many shifts that I'm not used to seeing... I think he's really better suited for fewer minutes than he's gotten in many games.
Sekac can really control that puck, he was a big contributor to many long shifts spent controlling the puck in the Isles zone.
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Post by PTH on Jan 18, 2015 0:13:02 GMT -5
Oh, and for all the MT-haters, I hope you took note of why Galchenyuk's not at center: he told the coach he found the responsabilities of being a center to be too much, and he's more comfortable on the wing for now.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 18, 2015 0:35:21 GMT -5
Oh, and for all the MT-haters, I hope you took note of why Galchenyuk's not at center: he told the coach he found the responsabilities of being a center to be too much, and he's more comfortable on the wing for now. I missed that. Thanks for the info. Nice to know everyone's happy.
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Post by PTH on Jan 18, 2015 0:40:02 GMT -5
I was however mildly annoyed at a DD quote given by TVA Sport: DD says he's a center, he's willing to accomodate coaches if they want him on the wing.... for a few games.
I don't think DD realizes that if Galch takes that next step, there's no more room for one of the current centers, and the coach has pretty much shown DD is the guy he doesn't see as a center... so DD's career is essentially at stake if he can't convert to the wing.
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Post by stoat on Jan 18, 2015 0:42:54 GMT -5
CH I love ya and hate Healy but Habs did not play last night. NYI looked like they played last night - sort of like us against Ott. Having said that I find it hard to believe the Isles are at the top. They got a good first line, mostly Tavares but after that a bunch of no names who don't look that good. Boychuk on the first unit PP? they didn't show anything tonight but maybe they were tired. Or do they rely on Halak who was off tonight. One thing that bothered me is the Isles seemed like a team with an edge, often hitting late and cheap. I don't think we have a response for that other than Prust and Wiese.Do we have the toughness? Not impressed with Toker. Lee's goal was bad and changed the outlook of the game. Chucky back on the wing and played well but..... Pleks liking the #1 role! Seems like we're back to 4 centres for 3 positions. I don't demand perfection. Sure, the Isles played the night before, but the Habs didn't have Price. They scored 6 goals (without any from Pacioretty) against a first place team and drove Halak to the showers (which the Isles were unable to do to Tokarski. That's good enough for me.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 18, 2015 1:06:32 GMT -5
Oh, and for all the MT-haters, I hope you took note of why Galchenyuk's not at center: he told the coach he found the responsabilities of being a center to be too much, and he's more comfortable on the wing for now. That's me. (Truth in advertising). I'll be willing to give MT more credit when we consistently come out of our end well(a system coaching issue) and we average 3 goals for per game. I'm really glad to see Beaulieu playing like a 3/4 dman. Let's see how this Jekyll and Hyde team plays next game.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 18, 2015 8:36:54 GMT -5
Oh, and for all the MT-haters, I hope you took note of why Galchenyuk's not at center: he told the coach he found the responsabilities of being a center to be too much, and he's more comfortable on the wing for now. As I said before, it's not easy to make the switch. We could quite possibly after three years have turned our #1 Center of the future into a winger
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 18, 2015 9:19:27 GMT -5
Oh, and for all the MT-haters, I hope you took note of why Galchenyuk's not at center: he told the coach he found the responsabilities of being a center to be too much, and he's more comfortable on the wing for now. As I said before, it's not easy to make the switch. We could quite possibly after three years have turned our #1 Center of the future into a winger I'll give MT props for last night's line combos they worked very well. Regarding galchy he needs to put on some bulk this summer and become harder to move. He's got the skill and the size to be a number one centre. I don't see why galchy can't be the 2nd line centre with DD on the wing until galchy adapts to playing centre against the other teams best checkers. As for DD that was a wicked shot and we need more of that from him. If was nice to see them play a complete game and it should have been over at the end of the first but halak played very well that period.
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Post by blny on Jan 18, 2015 10:24:27 GMT -5
Alex is 21. There's no reason to think he won't be a key cog AT center soon. He's got work to do, and that's fine. Just because it didn't take this time doesn't mean he's permanently pegged as a winger.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 18, 2015 11:04:26 GMT -5
Oh, and for all the MT-haters, I hope you took note of why Galchenyuk's not at center: he told the coach he found the responsabilities of being a center to be too much, and he's more comfortable on the wing for now. Please provide a link or reference when you have the time, PTH, thanks ... I really find it odd that he'd request something like this, more so when I think his first and only hat-trick came when he was at centre ... I thought he played some of the best hockey I've ever seen him play ... that's just me, though ... Cheers.
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Post by HFTO on Jan 18, 2015 11:07:34 GMT -5
All MT has do do is win and so far despite his odd handlings they win well enough...doesn't matter if I like him or anybody the proof though will be can he win when it counts??? call me a doubter who wants to be wrong.
Were in the dog days now, where the boys will finish is anyone's guess?
It'll be interesting to see what move or moves MB is willing to make.
Only can fill so many holes and with few quality UFA's not sure the rental route would be a smart idea,real improvement will have to come via a hockey deal which is tougher all the time.
HFTO
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Post by blny on Jan 18, 2015 11:46:04 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what move or moves MB is willing to make. Only can fill so many holes and with few quality UFA's not sure the rental route would be a smart idea,real improvement will have to come via a hockey deal which is tougher all the time. HFTO These thoughts have been in my head since the start of the season. I'm not sure there's a "Vanek move" out there this year. It's his, and his staff's, job to find it though. The list of pending UFA players is not jam-packed with stars. Most are passed their prime, or never really had one. Finding a legit scoring threat for the top 6 on the trade market may have to be as you suggest: done via a more traditional trade. Maybe there's a player out there with years left and a team looking to move them. Perhaps you target that player, and in an effort to move salary the other way include a player like PAP (who hasn't really fit in). Like Berg has done with Moen, the other team would be trading from the per view of freeing up cap space in future years. Send us your $5-6 million player with multiple years left for PAP with one year at $4 million left after this. It's not a dump, it's not trading an asset you know will walk on July 1st. It's closer to a real hockey trade, with a modern twist. I don't see Allen coming back from Hamilton unless there's a rash of injuries. So, if Berg can swing a deal to add some legitimate depth that can jump in and play, that would be ideal too.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 18, 2015 11:58:54 GMT -5
All MT has do do is win and so far despite his odd handlings they win well enough...doesn't matter if I like him or anybody the proof though will be can he win when it counts??? call me a doubter who wants to be wrong. Were in the dog days now, where the boys will finish is anyone's guess? It'll be interesting to see what move or moves MB is willing to make. Only can fill so many holes and with few quality UFA's not sure the rental route would be a smart idea,real improvement will have to come via a hockey deal which is tougher all the time. HFTO I think Bergevin's next move(s) will probably be near the trade deadline ... I'd also be surprised if his next move involved a roster player ... I don't what he and Therrien are thinking but I suspect this is the lineup we'll see going into the playoffs ... there could be movement between Montreal and Hamilton but removing an established member of the team might not be the right message ... just and opinion ... Cheers.
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Post by BadCompany on Jan 18, 2015 12:05:22 GMT -5
Oh, and for all the MT-haters, I hope you took note of why Galchenyuk's not at center: he told the coach he found the responsabilities of being a center to be too much, and he's more comfortable on the wing for now. Please provide a link or reference when you have the time, PTH, thanks ... I really find it odd that he'd request something like this, more so when I think his first and only hat-trick came when he was at centre ... I thought he played some of the best hockey I've ever seen him play ... that's just me, though ... Cheers. Hey Dis. Both John Lu of TSN and Renaud Lavoie of RDS reported it on Twitter. It's unclear if they both heard it from Therrrien or if one is simply repeating what the other said.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 18, 2015 12:18:35 GMT -5
Please provide a link or reference when you have the time, PTH, thanks ... I really find it odd that he'd request something like this, more so when I think his first and only hat-trick came when he was at centre ... I thought he played some of the best hockey I've ever seen him play ... that's just me, though ... Cheers. Hey Dis. Both John Lu of TSN and Renaud Lavoie of RDS reported it on Twitter. It's unclear if they both heard it from Therrrien or if one is simply repeating what the other said. Thanks BC ... Cheers mate.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 18, 2015 12:28:14 GMT -5
All MT has do do is win and so far despite his odd handlings they win well enough...doesn't matter if I like him or anybody the proof though will be can he win when it counts??? call me a doubter who wants to be wrong. Were in the dog days now, where the boys will finish is anyone's guess? It'll be interesting to see what move or moves MB is willing to make. Only can fill so many holes and with few quality UFA's not sure the rental route would be a smart idea,real improvement will have to come via a hockey deal which is tougher all the time. HFTO I think Bergevin's next move(s) will probably be near the trade deadline ... I'd also be surprised if his next move involved a roster player ... I don't what he and Therrien are thinking but I suspect this is the lineup we'll see going into the playoffs ... there could be movement between Montreal and Hamilton but removing an established member of the team might not be the right message ... just and opinion ... Cheers. I think you might find Jaromir Jagr in red-white-blue before this season is in the books. That's our Vanek trade. Plekanec and Jagr on the same line, they thrived off each other when playing for their country.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 18, 2015 14:00:13 GMT -5
Jagr's a first-ballot HOFamer who still has NHL-quality stamina, strength, and mental acuity. The moves aren't as frequent, but they're still there.
MB might overlook an attitude problem IF it existed....for a legit injection of scoring.
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Post by HFTO on Jan 18, 2015 15:17:28 GMT -5
Skilly that's the add I've wanted for a while now... Lou will try and hold out for a decent asset I suspect. Even though he doesn't have the speed Jagr still can play down low wher we still struggle and his chemistry with Pleks is well documented.
Take your pick a Kladno line, load it up with Patches or put him on a line with DD and Galchenyuk...unless it's a bigger deal Jagr seems to be a logical and safe target.
HFTO
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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 18, 2015 15:40:52 GMT -5
Jagr for Andrighetto or Thomas?
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 18, 2015 15:50:12 GMT -5
Take your pick a Kladno line, Yep....Sekac is also from Kladno. But would MT trust Sekac in such a role? [/dreamsequence]
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 18, 2015 16:03:18 GMT -5
Take your pick a Kladno line, Yep....Sekac is also from Kladno. But would MT trust Sekac in such a role? [/dreamsequence] Pleky would feel like he died and went to heaven if he had Jagr and Sekac on his wings. I would have Jagr-Pleky-Sekac Patches-Galchy-DD Prust-Eller-Gally Weise-Malholtra-Bournival
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