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Post by Disp on Jan 20, 2015 22:44:10 GMT -5
I wonder if Laviolette thinks that was "montreal typical"?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 23:06:11 GMT -5
I didn't even realize Laviolette was their coach.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 20, 2015 23:25:24 GMT -5
The boys upped their game in the third....how could they NOT? Ha!
Price kept them in it for the first 40. So steady.
PP has hit on 7 of our last 14.
Take it and enjoy the break. 61 pts. Nice.
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Post by Disp on Jan 20, 2015 23:26:16 GMT -5
Yeah he is, but Ribs is the one complaining this time. Fine incoming probably.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 20, 2015 23:27:15 GMT -5
Bolts, Bruins, and Wings win tonight as well....always good to keep pace.
And we have 2 games-in-hand on Boston and Detroit. 3 on TBay.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 23:29:34 GMT -5
Yeah he is, but Ribs is the one complaining this time. Fine incoming probably. Perhaps he'd like to fake an injury again.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 20, 2015 23:48:34 GMT -5
I couldn't believe the fuss that Laviolette was making about Smith's penalty in OT. Duh, that was as clear a trip as you'll see. I think he was just ticked at losing two in a row for the first time this year (and realizing he's only as good as his goaltending) so he had to take it out on someone. I hope the refs keep that in mind, much like they do to Gallagher. Nice to see Galchy pick up the two points. Also nice to see the simple solution to the PP problem. Hutton never saw either of those shots, courtesy of Sekac and then Desharnais.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 20, 2015 23:55:06 GMT -5
MT praising Subban tonight. "A real leader....took charge out there. A great game for him."
Nice to hear.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 21, 2015 0:09:54 GMT -5
Nice to hear indeed ... didn't know that until I read the thread ... I came in with about 6 minutes remaining in the 2nd period ... the game thread was bleak ... getting outworked in your own barn ... I must have come in at the right time because the tide was turning ... they were able to carry the momentum into the 3rd ... didn't mind the penalty in OT ... it's happened to us plenty of times ... I'm really glad to hear Therrien's comments on Subban ... great timing ...
Cheers.
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Post by PTH on Jan 21, 2015 1:25:23 GMT -5
While we were badly outshot early on, I think the shot total overstates the case. That being said, Carey kept us in this one, and overall we managed to bend but not break.
The weird part is how we played so much better after the Preds scored, it woke up a few of our guys.
PK was solid all game long, he got lucky when one bad turnover was cancelled by an offside though, but overall he had a great game - a goal, an assist, hit the post, and created at least one other scoring chance (for Malhotra), and made the Preds take a penalty. That's the PK who deserves Norris consideration.
Other than that, few standouts, but I think that's a good thing, since no one had a bad game per se. I find that Eller is much more assertive in games against big teams like Nashville, he plays a power game instead of thinking he's a finesse player. Sekac is progressing and controls that puck in the offensive zone like no one's business.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 21, 2015 1:54:21 GMT -5
While we were badly outshot early on, I think the shot total overstates the case. That being said, Carey kept us in this one, and overall we managed to bend but not break. The weird part is how we played so much better after the Preds scored, it woke up a few of our guys. PK was solid all game long, he got lucky when one bad turnover was cancelled by an offside though, but overall he had a great game - a goal, an assist, hit the post, and created at least one other scoring chance (for Malhotra), and made the Preds take a penalty. That's the PK who deserves Norris consideration. Other than that, few standouts, but I think that's a good thing, since no one had a bad game per se. I find that Eller is much more assertive in games against big teams like Nashville, he plays a power game instead of thinking he's a finesse player. Sekac is progressing and controls that puck in the offensive zone like no one's business. Agree on all fronts. That was the PK who's worth $9 million!!! Beau is playing well and will be a top 2 in a few years but boy he had a few scary shifts. One in particular in OT. Still nervous with Emelin and Gilbert out there. Must say, i much prefer a team that comes on in the third then one that falters. But would love a team that played 60!
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Post by franko on Jan 21, 2015 6:59:36 GMT -5
Must say, i much prefer a team that comes on in the third then one that falters. But would love a team that played 60! even if they picked it up and played 40 . . . for now
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Post by BadCompany on Jan 21, 2015 7:45:07 GMT -5
I only saw the third period and the overtime, so I guess you can thank me for the win. I accept money.
Even though it benefited us, I have to say that I hate that tripping call. I know, I know, that's how they call it now. But as a former defenseman I really believe you have to be able to tie up a guy's stick. Obviously only when the puck is nearby, but that was the case with Eller. He was just overpowered by a stronger man and as he was trying to fight through the stick check he tripped. To me that was just a strong play. But that's how they call them nowadays. Any little hook on the stick is called. I know how bad it used to be, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. Sort of like the broken-stick-automatic-penalty-call.
But I digress.
Back-to-back wins against two of the (surprisingly) better teams in the league. Weren't they 1-2 overall coming into their respective games against us? Or something like that? The good guys still look scattered at times, and that Beaulieu shift in overtime was an adventure and a half, but a win is a win, and they certainly generated some chances. A very good way to head into the All Star break. It would have been nice for Price to get the time off as February is indeed a killer month, but oh well. Markov amongst others will certainly benefit.
One more month until the trade deadline, and it figures to be a back-breaking month. Expect a lot of pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth, because I think we're do for a slide. It will be very interesting to see how Bergevin plays this out.
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Post by Disp on Jan 21, 2015 8:05:03 GMT -5
Beaulieau and Gonchar were a scary combo most of the game, but up until Beau's shift in ot it was mostly Gonchar who was causing problems. If he wasn't backing in too quickly he was getting burnt. Out of synch most of the time, probably his worst game as a hab.
PK was the best player on the ice. After he blasted a couple wide on the ot pp I was hoping they'd just keep feeding him. Next one was in. He had some extra zip on his shot, nobody was going to stop it if he hit his spot.
It still comes back to Price though. Probably deserved to be down at least a couple after the first half of the game. I don't understand the guys touting Rinne over Price for the vezina. The preds are a much harder team to play against than our habs. I just can't imagine any other goalie in our net doing better.
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Post by jkr on Jan 21, 2015 8:47:14 GMT -5
Thought the Predators' reaction after the game - skating to the penalty box - was all out of proportion to what happened. It wasn't an outrageous call.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 21, 2015 9:18:08 GMT -5
Even though it benefited us, I have to say that I hate that tripping call. The Preds were pretty miffed to a man ... I didn't have a problem with the call not because it looked like a (marginal) penalty, but because no one has any mercy for the Habs when it's called on them ... I heard Therrien's comment after the game and he said what he should have ... "It was a penalty" ... and the press gallery did grin laugh ... I don't know how Therrien would have reacted had the table been turned against his club, but at the same time I can't remember the last time I heard him rip the officiating ... I didn't hear it for myself, but apparently Riberio had something to say after ... anyone catch that ... you may be right about a slide ... seems to sometimes happen as the trade deadline approaches, or so I can recall anyway ... Cheers.
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Post by HabSolute on Jan 21, 2015 10:06:32 GMT -5
I didn't hear it for myself, but apparently Riberio had something to say after ... anyone catch that ...
he said that they lost because of the referees.
he was also pissed at the call that was reversed when Jokinen (or whoever it was) got the puck in the face.
he said it's the first time in his career that he sees a call reversed. "what is this, the NFL ? We have coaches challenge or what ?"
the ref did the right thing on this. Pierre Houde explain that in the case of High stick penalties, the other referees are allowed to go and give their input after the play. It was clearly not a high stick penalty.
Ribeiro was just bitter....
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 21, 2015 10:44:27 GMT -5
A high stick is also a penalty the linesman can call after the play by letting the ref know so don't see a problem with the converse. Also it looks like Joker was bleeding so it would have been a 4 minute penalty erroneously called. That would be wrong. Good for the linesman to step in! Typical ribero, even though any view of the video shows it was puck not stick, he still bemoans the injustice. That's why he'll never play on a cup team and will always be remembered for his 'writhe like a chicken floor dance'. One of the more embarrassing Habs moments.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 21, 2015 11:01:28 GMT -5
Even though it benefited us, I have to say that I hate that tripping call. I know, I know, that's how they call it now. But as a former defenseman I really believe you have to be able to tie up a guy's stick. Obviously only when the puck is nearby, but that was the case with Eller. He was just overpowered by a stronger man and as he was trying to fight through the stick check he tripped. To me that was just a strong play. But that's how they call them nowadays. Any little hook on the stick is called. I know how bad it used to be, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. Sort of like the broken-stick-automatic-penalty-call. Earlier in the game, Markov and Subban got caught flat footed and Markov ended up taking a penalty because he put his stick up under Forsberg's armpit. It didn't impeded Forsberg at all, but it was called because those types of plays are always called now. I hate it, as well as the fractured stick syndrome. So I don't think the Preds have any right to bitch when one of our guys is prevented from breaking out. From the angle I saw, it looked a lot like Smith pushed the envelope too much and took Eller's legs out. It could easily have looked like that to the ref as well. I thought it was a legitimate call. Tough luck, Laviolette.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 21, 2015 11:18:18 GMT -5
I didn't hear it for myself, but apparently Riberio had something to say after ... anyone catch that ...
he said that they lost because of the referees.
he was also pissed at the call that was reversed when Jokinen (or whoever it was) got the puck in the face.
he said it's the first time in his career that he sees a call reversed. "what is this, the NFL ? We have coaches challenge or what ?"
the ref did the right thing on this. Pierre Houde explain that in the case of High stick penalties, the other referees are allowed to go and give their input after the play. It was clearly not a high stick penalty.
Ribeiro was just bitter....
He sounds a lot like Jack Edwards ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 21, 2015 12:01:47 GMT -5
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Post by flowerpower on Jan 21, 2015 12:15:33 GMT -5
"Even though it benefited us, I have to say that I hate that tripping call. I know, I know, that's how they call it now. But as a former defenseman I really believe you have to be able to tie up a guy's stick. Obviously only when the puck is nearby, but that was the case with Eller. He was just overpowered by a stronger man and as he was trying to fight through the stick check he tripped. To me that was just a strong play. But that's how they call them nowadays. Any little hook on the stick is called. I know how bad it used to be, but I think the pendulum has swung too far. Sort of like the broken-stick-automatic-penalty-call." I agree and giving that penalty in OT makes it even more difficult to understand. A 4-on-3 PP is more lethal than a 5-on-4. To Laviolette, giving that penalty was almost like handing the Habs the win on a platter. He was hopping mad.
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Post by blny on Jan 21, 2015 12:39:20 GMT -5
I watched the 4-5 min highlight pack on nhl.com, and Hutton had to make a number of fine saves for the Preds in the second and third periods.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 21, 2015 12:42:33 GMT -5
I watched the 4-5 min highlight pack on nhl.com, and Hutton had to make a number of fine saves for the Preds in the second and third periods. No question. But the only reason the game was still within reach at that time was Price's solid play when the shots were climbing to 26-4 half-way through the game. It could've easily been 3-0 by that time…and no chance of a comeback. Price holds the fort….again. Glad we have him, but I don't like the weight of that reliance. A solid second-pairing D would sure help out. Too bad Tinordi hasn't been able to fill the bill, for whatever reason or combo of reasons.
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Post by franko on Jan 21, 2015 13:08:52 GMT -5
it was a chintzy call--in OT or at any stage of the game. I'da been ticked if it had been called on the Habs. otoh, it has been called consistently all year
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 21, 2015 13:12:08 GMT -5
I couldn't believe the fuss that Laviolette was making about Smith's penalty in OT. Duh, that was as clear a trip as you'll see. I think he was just ticked at losing two in a row for the first time this year (and realizing he's only as good as his goaltending) so he had to take it out on someone. I hope the refs keep that in mind, much like they do to Gallagher. Nice to see Galchy pick up the two points. Also nice to see the simple solution to the PP problem. Hutton never saw either of those shots, courtesy of Sekac and then Desharnais. I watch the replay of the OT goal in slow mo and it did not look like DD screened him, it looked like DD distracted him. Kudos to both Sekac and DD for going to the front of the net. A PP can be so simple to do if you keep it simple, go to the net, adjust and move into a passing lane, give the puck carrier options.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 21, 2015 13:14:14 GMT -5
While we were badly outshot early on, I think the shot total overstates the case. That being said, Carey kept us in this one, and overall we managed to bend but not break. The weird part is how we played so much better after the Preds scored, it woke up a few of our guys. PK was solid all game long, he got lucky when one bad turnover was cancelled by an offside though, but overall he had a great game - a goal, an assist, hit the post, and created at least one other scoring chance (for Malhotra), and made the Preds take a penalty. That's the PK who deserves Norris consideration. Other than that, few standouts, but I think that's a good thing, since no one had a bad game per se. I find that Eller is much more assertive in games against big teams like Nashville, he plays a power game instead of thinking he's a finesse player. Sekac is progressing and controls that puck in the offensive zone like no one's business. I found Eller's game changde after he took a big hit. I guess some guys can get into a slumber and then if you wake them up, they then start playing hard.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 21, 2015 13:18:02 GMT -5
Even though it benefited us, I have to say that I hate that tripping call. The Preds were pretty miffed to a man ... I didn't have a problem with the call not because it looked like a (marginal) penalty, but because no one has any mercy for the Habs when it's called on them ... I heard Therrien's comment after the game and he said what he should have ... "It was a penalty" ... and the press gallery did grin laugh ... I don't know how Therrien would have reacted had the table been turned against his club, but at the same time I can't remember the last time I heard him rip the officiating ... I didn't hear it for myself, but apparently Riberio had something to say after ... anyone catch that ... you may be right about a slide ... seems to sometimes happen as the trade deadline approaches, or so I can recall anyway ... Cheers. I heard on TSN690 that Therrien said he would have been frustrated if the call had gone against the Habs.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jan 21, 2015 13:29:33 GMT -5
Like others I didn't tune in until late in the 2nd period but they looked good!
Love that the PP is a real weapon again.
I like Desharnais SO much better on the wing. It's a great spot for him given that he can use the boards as his friend to make plays. I've seen lots of heads-up, patient, cross-ice passes from DD from the boards. He's also good in puck support role and not having the primary centre responsibilities.
Some very good shifts in the 3rd from the Eller/Sekac/Prust line. A bit more finish would be great, but they can be tough to handle and very good on puck possession.
All in all a great way to go into the break. Tough to get a read on where Bergevin's head is. Emelin and Gilbert are clearly 3rd pair material, which is fine, but how cofident is he in Beaulieu/Gonchar? Is he looking for another dman? Or is he looking at Dale Wiese on the 1st line and thinking we need another top 9 foward to balance things out better?
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Post by Gogie on Jan 21, 2015 13:37:16 GMT -5
While we were badly outshot early on, I think the shot total overstates the case. That being said, Carey kept us in this one, and overall we managed to bend but not break. The weird part is how we played so much better after the Preds scored, it woke up a few of our guys. PK was solid all game long, he got lucky when one bad turnover was cancelled by an offside though, but overall he had a great game - a goal, an assist, hit the post, and created at least one other scoring chance (for Malhotra), and made the Preds take a penalty. That's the PK who deserves Norris consideration. Other than that, few standouts, but I think that's a good thing, since no one had a bad game per se. I find that Eller is much more assertive in games against big teams like Nashville, he plays a power game instead of thinking he's a finesse player. Sekac is progressing and controls that puck in the offensive zone like no one's business. I found Eller's game changde after he took a big hit. I guess some guys can get into a slumber and then if you wake them up, they then start playing hard.Classic Frank Mahovlich. The Big M would have games where he seemed invisible but if someone woke him up, look out.
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