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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 9, 2015 16:21:18 GMT -5
I liked the Traffic Cone vision. Chara is not the rock he once was. He's lost a half step and in his game, that is critical. Or....perhaps the league just keeps speeding up. With the trend away from goons, those 4th lines are being filled by guys with wheels. Maybe their skill level isn't good enough for top 9, but they can usually skate. Our 4th line yesterday had Thomas (or was it Dumont?), DLR and Bournival. That's a lot of speed. The trouble with not playing Rask is that you're leaving an important game in the hands of a raw rookie or a very inexperienced goalie. Habs pummel them and sow the seeds of doubt in yet one more Bruins goalie. Better to let Rask, who was playing very well, try to break his mental block. It failed, , but it was a good gamble, I think. To me, the best part of that win yesterday was that there are no excuses for the Bruins to fall back on. They had a good roster. They had won a number of games and were playing really well. They were at home. And we beat them. Again. Convincingly IMO. No wonder Lucic was ticked. I dont blame Rask, the first goal was on the D because the back door was left wide open and on patches goal the goalies really doesn't have a chance with a sniper in all alone (chara took the blame on that one... from what i read)
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 9, 2015 16:22:16 GMT -5
I liked how their #1 goalie (Rask), their #1 defenseman (Chara), and their #1 defensive center (Bergeron) all stood there watching Dale Weise, of all people, standing in the crease putting a rebound into an empty net. Untouched.
If Lucic had somehow found his way into that picture it would have been my new avatar.
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 9, 2015 16:40:16 GMT -5
The Bruins are now on the down slide. I think what really irks Lucy is that the last chance this edition of the Bruins had to win a Cup was last year. They had an amazing season and were one of the favourites to take the whole thing. then they ran onto their nemesis in then playoffs and again their nemesis beat them AGAIN. That's why Lucy lost it in t he line up. They thought for sure it was theirs year. And now with Chara a slow old man, Bergron's best seasons behind him, there's to much there. They have an OK first line and then things drop off quickly - third and fourth line are ok for any team.
And what will the Bruin racists do with a Subban in net? Soul searching times for a classless outfit.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 9, 2015 16:40:29 GMT -5
I liked how their #1 goalie (Rask), their #1 defenseman (Chara), and their #1 defensive center (Bergeron) all stood there watching Dale Weise, of all people, standing in the crease putting a rebound into an empty net. Untouched. If Lucic had somehow found his way into that picture it would have been my new avatar. 1000 x likes
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Post by franko on Feb 9, 2015 17:08:58 GMT -5
To me, the best part of that win yesterday was that there are no excuses for the Bruins to fall back on. They had a good roster. They had won a number of games and were playing really well. They were at home. And we beat them. Again. Convincingly IMO. after getting into Boston at 2am, no less
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Post by seventeen on Feb 9, 2015 18:37:00 GMT -5
I liked how their #1 goalie (Rask), their #1 defenseman (Chara), and their #1 defensive center (Bergeron) all stood there watching Dale Weise, of all people, standing in the crease putting a rebound into an empty net. Untouched. If Lucic had somehow found his way into that picture it would have been my new avatar. That would have been tough, seeing Lucic wasn't on Bergeron's line. But it would be one for the ages if it came to pass. But hey, what are the Bruins fans saying, seeing Daniel Paille playing right wing with Bergeron and Marchand. We think we have problems with Weise on the first line? Disclaimer: I actually like Paille, but not on the first line or second line and only occasionally on the 3rd line.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 9, 2015 22:48:57 GMT -5
Interesting facts
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 10, 2015 2:39:14 GMT -5
Only confirms what i've always thought/said: Had Max been able to play in that 2011 series when we lost 4 of 7 games by one gaol and 3 in OT, Max would have definitely been a difference maker. Instead the Bruins won and just got more cocky. That still burns me. And to see Marchand run at PK yesterday from behind, into the boards with an elbow to the head really pisses me off. 2 minutes? That should have been 5 and a game and a league review.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 10, 2015 7:51:48 GMT -5
Only confirms what i've always thought/said: Had Max been able to play in that 2011 series when we lost 4 of 7 games by one gaol and 3 in OT, Max would have definitely been a difference maker. Instead the Bruins won and just got more cocky. That still burns me. And to see Marchand run at PK yesterday from behind, into the boards with an elbow to the head really pisses me off. 2 minutes? That should have been 5 and a game and a league review. imo, Daddy Campbell still has clout at the NHL head office and the head of the board of Governors is the ass Jacobs... as a Habs fan, don't expect miracles.
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Post by blny on Feb 10, 2015 8:28:23 GMT -5
He tried to casually slew foot him as well, and has already been suspended for it this year. I've said it before, will say it again, it's the worst run league in pro sports. Inherent bias abounds. I wouldn't mind at all if a guy like David Branch came in and cleaned house, but he (and others like him) know when they've got it good.
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 10, 2015 8:51:04 GMT -5
The Bruins are now on the down slide. I think what really irks Lucy is that the last chance this edition of the Bruins had to win a Cup was last year. They had an amazing season and were one of the favourites to take the whole thing. then they ran onto their nemesis in then playoffs and again their nemesis beat them AGAIN. That's why Lucy lost it in t he line up. They thought for sure it was theirs year. And now with Chara a slow old man, Bergron's best seasons behind him, there's to much there. They have an OK first line and then things drop off quickly - third and fourth line are ok for any team. And what will the Bruin racists do with a Subban in net? Soul searching times for a classless outfit. Do they not also have cap issues ?
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 10, 2015 8:57:27 GMT -5
He tried to casually slew foot him as well, and has already been suspended for it this year. I've said it before, will say it again, it's the worst run league in pro sports. Inherent bias abounds. I wouldn't mind at all if a guy like David Branch came in and cleaned house, but he (and others like him) know when they've got it good. A guy like Branch won't be welcomed into the NHL disciplinary group.... He has too much honour and class for that bunch of Yes men. Branch would have to come in as commissioner but that will never happen as long as Jacobs, Snider and their ilk are in charge because Branch will not be a shill like Bettman.
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Post by blny on Feb 10, 2015 9:19:10 GMT -5
He tried to casually slew foot him as well, and has already been suspended for it this year. I've said it before, will say it again, it's the worst run league in pro sports. Inherent bias abounds. I wouldn't mind at all if a guy like David Branch came in and cleaned house, but he (and others like him) know when they've got it good. A guy like Branch won't be welcomed into the NHL disciplinary group.... He has too much honour and class for that bunch of Yes men. Branch would have to come in as commissioner but that will never happen as long as Jacobs, Snider and their ilk are in charge because Branch will not be a shill like Bettman. Completely agree. That's what I was implying, but didn't make it clear. The clique-laden inner circle at the NHL offices needs to be kicked to the curb.
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 10, 2015 9:40:13 GMT -5
Here's the Marchand charging (more like boarding) call on Subban. It wasn't an elbow to the head…but his glove comes up (still holding the butt of the stick) and pushes Subban between the shoulders into the boards…and he tries to mask it by sliding away. Another cheap dirty move from Marchand.
Good thing Subban didn't stay down…the refs would've evened it up with an embellishment call.
Can't find a clip of the slew foot.
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Post by blny on Feb 10, 2015 10:10:17 GMT -5
IIRC, the slewfoot is either in the NHL.com highlight pack or tsn's. It's not his normal one where he sweeps your feet out from under you. This is on the fore check. You're near the boards, and changes the angle of his pursuit as if he were innocently peeling off around the back of the net to change lines etc. As he does, he intentionally sweeps your ankles with his skate boot.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 10, 2015 11:08:52 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Feb 10, 2015 11:15:31 GMT -5
Thanks WD. I went back to tsn, but couldn't find the video clip.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 10, 2015 11:54:37 GMT -5
Only confirms what i've always thought/said: Had Max been able to play in that 2011 series when we lost 4 of 7 games by one gaol and 3 in OT, Max would have definitely been a difference maker. Instead the Bruins won and just got more cocky. That still burns me. And to see Marchand run at PK yesterday from behind, into the boards with an elbow to the head really pisses me off. 2 minutes? That should have been 5 and a game and a league review. I believe Markov and Gorges were also injured and not playing in that 2011 series. Add them and we sweep the Bruins.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 10, 2015 12:47:50 GMT -5
Only confirms what i've always thought/said: Had Max been able to play in that 2011 series when we lost 4 of 7 games by one gaol and 3 in OT, Max would have definitely been a difference maker. Instead the Bruins won and just got more cocky. That still burns me. And to see Marchand run at PK yesterday from behind, into the boards with an elbow to the head really pisses me off. 2 minutes? That should have been 5 and a game and a league review. I believe Markov and Gorges were also injured and not playing in that 2011 series. Add them and we sweep the Bruins. This is point where I think a lot of the Bruins fans I know started thumping their chests (a la Lucic, eh) ... a victory over Montreal trumps anything else going on in their lives (at least with some of the B's fans I know) ... when their team was winning I could always expect a little ribbing but sometimes it went too far ... now that their team isn't the big, bad Bruins, I don't see them at all ... one won't even say hello to me when I pass him in the halls and the other ditches me just as soon as I see him at the grocery store ... I don't rib or heckle anyone because it's been my experience that it makes for bad karma ... and when it gets to the point where loyalty to my team starts costing me friendships, then it's probably time for me to take a step back and consider leaving the schoolyard ... a win over Montreal is a life event for some whereas a loss to Montreal is a humiliation to the team, the fans and the city of Boston ... too bad they can't deal with that just a little better ... more's to pity ... [/the world according to Dis] Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 10, 2015 13:40:18 GMT -5
The cockiness really solidified when they beat the canucks and won a cup. Had they not won the cup they were just another team who had a good playoff run as they had before. They'd beaten us in the playoffs before; of course not often but it was part of the rivalry. But when they won the cup with the same goon tactics that the league let them bet away with (Marchand using Sedin's face as a punching bag right in from of the ref) it reenforced their belief that cheap shots pay off. And given their history of the Big Bad Bruins it became part of their persona. The bravado and obnoxiousness was overwhelming. They still believe that's how one plays hockey. Fortunately the league has toned down the goonary which may explain their current plight and the fact they have minimal talent. Hopefully their fans have experienced some humiliation the last few years and will tone down the chest thumping - but i doubt it.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 10, 2015 14:25:45 GMT -5
The cockiness really solidified when they beat the canucks and won a cup. Had they not won the cup they were just another team who had a good playoff run as they had before. They'd beaten us in the playoffs before; of course not often but it was part of the rivalry. But when they won the cup with the same goon tactics that the league let them bet away with (Marchand using Sedin's face as a punching bag right in from of the ref) it reenforced their belief that cheap shots pay off. And given their history of the Big Bad Bruins it became part of their persona. The bravado and obnoxiousness was overwhelming. They still believe that's how one plays hockey. Fortunately the league has toned down the goonary which may explain their current plight and the fact they have minimal talent. Hopefully their fans have experienced some humiliation the last few years and will tone down the chest thumping - but i doubt it. The best thing that could have happened to the Bruins, for fans of other teams, was Clod's inability to teach Seguin how to be a pro, how to grow and mature as a player. That has set them back years in development imo. I look back at the way PK was handled, at the time I thought they were going to ruin him, but he is developing into a well rounded, high quality Dman who can play in all 3 zones and log big minutes(It is killing me to give MT and the coaching staff props). He is one of the big three (A1 Forward + A1 Dman + A1 Goalie) that you need to build around so you can win a cup.
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 10, 2015 14:29:44 GMT -5
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Post by franko on Feb 10, 2015 14:54:15 GMT -5
How he doesn't get suspended for this deliberate, cowardly play is mind-boggling. Could injure someone very badly with this blindside crap. You NEVER hear Cherry complain about this garbage when the Bruins do it. c'mon, CH, you know that PK was embellishing.
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