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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 21, 2015 23:55:18 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 23, 2015 1:40:20 GMT -5
Dis, love the work on the GDT - great memories. But I have a question. I note that in the player cards for this game there are 2 Serge Savards and 2 Frank Mahovolichs. Is that you or the original poster that has the duplicates. I wish the current edition of the Habs had 2 Serge Savards and 2 Frank Mahovolichs. In fact one of each would be fine!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 23, 2015 1:53:18 GMT -5
Dis, love the work on the GDT - great memories. But I have a question. I note that in the player cards for this game there are 2 Serge Savards and 2 Frank Mahovolichs. Is that you or the original poster that has the duplicates. I wish the current edition of the Habs had 2 Serge Savards and 2 Frank Mahovolichs. In fact one of each would be fine! Thanks mate ... I might have been tired ... there should be one each of Frank and Peter ... not sure about the Savard duplicate though ... I'm in Brampton for the night and I'll fix it up when I get back to K-town ... thanks buds ... Dis Edit: Just added the Little M and Bob Murdoch ... I can still add a few more when I get home tomorrow ... Chuck Arnason for one ... have a great (morning) and thanks again ...
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 23, 2015 2:01:22 GMT -5
Pete would be great! Always loved his playing style and personality. Met him at the Budget car rental with Fergie after the 71 Cup parade - they shared the same car. He was drunk as a skunk and I as an 11 year old playing hooky had a great chat with him. I had my baseball glove and ball with me. Pete said "Throw me that ball! Anyone that's a friend of Mack Jones is a friend of mine!" How's that for a memory?
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 23, 2015 8:22:47 GMT -5
Big test for the Little Big Three of Beaulieu, Tinordi and Paetryn. They've all looked good against inferior competition, but now they get to play against some of the big boys, on the road no less. There will be little protection for them if the Blues decide to target them specifically for exploitation. I would suspect that a lot of GMs and scouts around the league will be watching this one with interest.
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2015 12:37:25 GMT -5
Looks like Galchenyuk will play RW in this game. Per John Lu quoting MT.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 23, 2015 13:38:44 GMT -5
I think that's an experiment definitely worth trying. First, we're much weaker at RW than LW. Secondly, a lot of guys, including Galchenyuk, have some great moves coming in on their off wing (do you remember how successful Mike Ryder was with that?). The challenge is adapting to that situation in the defensive zone. It can work out well as most defensemen who pinch are used to doing that to wingers playing their regular side. Galchy will pick the puck up on the forehand as it comes around the boards, rather than his backhand. That makes a pass into the middle to a breaking teammate a bit easier, or he can backhand it off the boards as well. It might take a few games to adapt, but I like it. He's skilled enough to take passes on his backhand and make passes on his backhand. I just hope Therrien gives it a long enough trial run.
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2015 13:56:45 GMT -5
I think that's an experiment definitely worth trying. First, we're much weaker at RW than LW. Secondly, a lot of guys, including Galchenyuk, have some great moves coming in on their off wing (do you remember how successful Mike Ryder was with that?). The challenge is adapting to that situation in the defensive zone. It can work out well as most defensemen who pinch are used to doing that to wingers playing their regular side. Galchy will pick the puck up on the forehand as it comes around the boards, rather than his backhand. That makes a pass into the middle to a breaking teammate a bit easier, or he can backhand it off the boards as well. It might take a few games to adapt, but I like it. He's skilled enough to take passes on his backhand and make passes on his backhand. I just hope Therrien gives it a long enough trial run. I wonder if part of the logic for doing it is because he can't find a trade he likes ...
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 23, 2015 14:14:03 GMT -5
I think that's an experiment definitely worth trying. First, we're much weaker at RW than LW. Secondly, a lot of guys, including Galchenyuk, have some great moves coming in on their off wing (do you remember how successful Mike Ryder was with that?). The challenge is adapting to that situation in the defensive zone. It can work out well as most defensemen who pinch are used to doing that to wingers playing their regular side. Galchy will pick the puck up on the forehand as it comes around the boards, rather than his backhand. That makes a pass into the middle to a breaking teammate a bit easier, or he can backhand it off the boards as well. It might take a few games to adapt, but I like it. He's skilled enough to take passes on his backhand and make passes on his backhand. I just hope Therrien gives it a long enough trial run. I wonder if part of the logic for doing it is because he can't find a trade he likes ... Or maybe it means he has a #1 C lined up…so they're moving Galchy to RW to strengthen that position internally. [/wishfulthinking] MB's plans aren't easily read, so you never know with him.
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Post by blny on Feb 23, 2015 14:21:07 GMT -5
I wonder if part of the logic for doing it is because he can't find a trade he likes ... Or maybe it means he has a #1 C lined up…so they're moving Galchy to RW to strengthen that position internally. [/wishfulthinking] MB's plans aren't easily read, so you never know with him. I briefly thought along those lines, but dismissed it lol.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 23, 2015 14:53:16 GMT -5
Big test for the Little Big Three of Beaulieu, Tinordi and Paetryn. They've all looked good against inferior competition, but now they get to play against some of the big boys, on the road no less. There will be little protection for them if the Blues decide to target them specifically for exploitation. I would suspect that a lot of GMs and scouts around the league will be watching this one with interest. These next 10-12 games will be very interesting. We went 10-3-2 in our last 15 games despite scoring 2 or fewer goals in 10 of those 15 games. I hate that stat. That's a testament to Carey Price, but also to the fact that many of these were home games against less than stellar competition. In addition to St. Louis, we have a West coast trip and then back home to face the likes of Tampa and Ottawa. Even with Price playing well, this is one of those stretches where .500 is a good result but the offense is relying way too much on Pacioretty. Other guys need to step.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 23, 2015 16:41:17 GMT -5
Big test for the Little Big Three of Beaulieu, Tinordi and Paetryn. They've all looked good against inferior competition, but now they get to play against some of the big boys, on the road no less. There will be little protection for them if the Blues decide to target them specifically for exploitation. I would suspect that a lot of GMs and scouts around the league will be watching this one with interest. Win or lose I feel this game will be a reflection on the quality of depth in the system ... to this point I'm very impressed with Rivet, Wilkie, Fitzpatrick "Little Big Three" ... have to beat St Louis ... easier said than done, but still ... Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Feb 23, 2015 17:18:35 GMT -5
Looks like Galchenyuk will play RW in this game. Per John Lu quoting MT. I shot left and played RW....it seemed so natural. Hated playing center or LW, I felt RW worked better for my shot.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 23, 2015 17:46:45 GMT -5
Looks like Galchenyuk will play RW in this game. Per John Lu quoting MT. I shot left and played RW....it seemed so natural. Hated playing center or LW, I felt RW worked better for my shot. Cournoyer, the Rocket...need I say more?
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 23, 2015 18:07:24 GMT -5
I shot left and played RW....it seemed so natural. Hated playing center or LW, I felt RW worked better for my shot. Cournoyer, the Rocket...need I say more? Cournoyer had it all for the off-wing role. The ability to stay at his great speed while picking up a perfect pass on his backhand….or a pass slightly to the side or behind on his forehand.
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Post by Gogie on Feb 23, 2015 18:48:50 GMT -5
Cournoyer, the Rocket...need I say more? Cournoyer had it all for the off-wing role. The ability to stay at his great speed while picking up a perfect pass on his backhand….or a pass slightly to the side or behind on his forehand. He could also shoot from either side (left or right handed).
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 23, 2015 18:51:57 GMT -5
Cournoyer had it all for the off-wing role. The ability to stay at his great speed while picking up a perfect pass on his backhand….or a pass slightly to the side or behind on his forehand. He could also shoot from either side (left or right handed). Yep. Good call, Gogie. Sometimes he'd switch hands! Wish I could find a clip of that.
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Post by PTH on Feb 23, 2015 20:35:38 GMT -5
I wonder if part of the logic for doing it is because he can't find a trade he likes ... Or maybe it means he has a #1 C lined up…so they're moving Galchy to RW to strengthen that position internally. [/wishfulthinking] MB's plans aren't easily read, so you never know with him. Maybe the idea is that if Galchy can be a RW, then we could look at a guy like Glencross for LW on the 2nd line...
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 23, 2015 21:33:15 GMT -5
Dis, thanks for the card of Pete!
I went to Cournoyer's hockey camp in the 70s and he used a straight blade so he could should off either side. He also used a lead puck to strengthen his wrists. Haven't seen the size of Chucky's curve but I'm guessing it ain't straight by his dangles.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 23, 2015 21:53:51 GMT -5
Dis, thanks for the card of Pete! I went to Cournoyer's hockey camp in the 70s and he used a straight blade so he could should off either side. He also used a lead puck to strengthen his wrists. Haven't seen the size of Chucky's curve but I'm guessing it ain't straight by his dangles. You're welcome mate ... the straight stick is a lost art ... I met Cournoyer a few years back ... a very nice man ... liked talking about '72 ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 23, 2015 21:54:07 GMT -5
Nice to see the 72-73 cards again.
Larry Robinson was brought up that season…but after the team picture was taken, it seems.
He scored an OT goal vs. Philly in the playoffs that year.
He recalls Frank Mahovlich telling him to keep going and shoot.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 23, 2015 21:56:18 GMT -5
The lines and defense pairings have been added ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 23, 2015 21:58:18 GMT -5
He scored an OT goal vs. Philly in the playoffs that year. He recalls Frank Mahovlich telling him to keep going and shoot. I remember this account for sure ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 23, 2015 22:13:00 GMT -5
Love the interweb…
Here's the play….starting at 9:12.
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 23, 2015 22:37:42 GMT -5
Dis, thanks for the card of Pete! I went to Cournoyer's hockey camp in the 70s and he used a straight blade so he could should off either side. He also used a lead puck to strengthen his wrists. Haven't seen the size of Chucky's curve but I'm guessing it ain't straight by his dangles. You're welcome mate ... the straight stick is a lost art ... I met Cournoyer a few years back ... a very nice man ... liked talking about '72 ... Cheers. Loved his eulogy and Mr. Beliveau's memorial. Showed what kind of guy Yvan is - all heart!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 23, 2015 22:40:52 GMT -5
Nice to see the 72-73 cards again. Larry Robinson was brought up that season…but after the team picture was taken, it seems. Forgot to mention that when we post cards from a specific year, they actually represent the year before ... O-Pee-Chee and TOPPS were the two most common back in the day (as you already know) ... update sets became available as other companies jumped on in the early 90's ... also, the Habs cards you see are actually postcards ... I have about 20 of the 'black postcards' in my collection ... Cheers.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 24, 2015 9:09:14 GMT -5
Love the interweb… Here's the play….starting at 9:12. At around the 11:16 mark, Larry says something that made Jared Tinordi pop in my heaqd. at around the 11:40 mark a profound statement by serge savard. This statement is what leadership is all about. Put the best interests of your teammates and the team ahead of your own.
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Post by blny on Feb 24, 2015 9:41:59 GMT -5
Of note in all of that is that Robinson turned 22 around the time of that 73 run, and was 23 at the end of his first full season. Tinordi just turned 23.
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Post by CentreHice on Feb 24, 2015 10:09:30 GMT -5
In the video, Robinson says Al MacNeil took him aside in Halifax and told him he had to be more physical….use his size. Larry acted upon that advice immediately. What also helped Robinson crack the lineup was the departure of two stalwarts on D in the off-season. J.C. Tremblay went to the WHA…..and Pollock dealt 31-year-old Terry Harper to the Kings. Savard, Lapointe, Laperriere, Robinson, Roberts, Bouchard, Murdoch. The next year, Laperriere had a career-ending knee injury halfway through the season…and Robinson was ready to rise in the depth chart. =========================== Speaking of Jacques Laperriere….even though he's in the HHOF, he's often under-sung as one of the Habs' great dmen. He certainly belongs in that group. Calder, Norris, All-Star selections. He was the backbone of the Habs D and mentored guys like Savard and Lapointe…likely even Robinson for that brief time. According to Laperriere's HHOF entry, a rift had developed between him and Bowman….even though he had led the league in +/- in 72/73 with a +78. "I didn't say I wanted to be traded or wanted him to lose his job. I just said if things don't get better, it's no use for me to stay," sighed Jacques. Regrettably, days later, on January 19, 1974 in a contest against the Bruins, Laperriere suffered a knee injury that brought a premature conclusion to his once-glorious career.=================================================== Laperriere was also a warrior. From Habs World: “I broke my wrist in the first game of the (1971) finals and we didn’t say anything about it,” Laperriere revealed to Dick Irvin years later. “It was painful. They used to freeze it between periods and strap it up. The doctor said there wouldn’t be a problem. I didn’t mind the pain, I was happy just to play.”
And play he did, scoring 13 points in 20 playoffs games, all the while acting as the Habs top defenseman. (Serge Savard missed the entire 71 Cup run, recovering from a broken leg.)
Two years later, the Canadiens once again found themselves facing the Black Hawks in the finals. Amazingly, injury would once again dog Laperriere against the Hawks.
“I got hit by a stick and broke my nose,” Laperriere told Dick Irvin. “I went to the hospital and they had to operate. It was broken in seven places … the next day I showed up at the Forum with a big plaster on my nose and I had two black eyes. Sam Pollock looked at me and said, ‘Oh, it’s not too bad, Jacques. You could play tonight.”
Playing with a protective mask, Laperriere once again excelled as helped the Canadiens capture another Stanley Cup, his sixth with the team.
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Post by Gogie on Feb 24, 2015 11:47:00 GMT -5
=========================== Speaking of Jacques Laperriere….even though he's in the HHOF, he's often under-sung as one of the Habs' great dmen. He certainly belongs in that group. Calder, Norris, All-Star selections. He was the backbone of the Habs D and mentored guys like Savard and Lapointe…likely even Robinson for that brief time. According to Laperriere's HHOF entry, a rift had developed between him and Bowman….even though he had led the league in +/- in 72/73 with a +78. "I didn't say I wanted to be traded or wanted him to lose his job. I just said if things don't get better, it's no use for me to stay," sighed Jacques. Regrettably, days later, on January 19, 1974 in a contest against the Bruins, Laperriere suffered a knee injury that brought a premature conclusion to his once-glorious career.=================================================== Laperriere was also a warrior. From Habs World: “I broke my wrist in the first game of the (1971) finals and we didn’t say anything about it,” Laperriere revealed to Dick Irvin years later. “It was painful. They used to freeze it between periods and strap it up. The doctor said there wouldn’t be a problem. I didn’t mind the pain, I was happy just to play.”
And play he did, scoring 13 points in 20 playoffs games, all the while acting as the Habs top defenseman. (Serge Savard missed the entire 71 Cup run, recovering from a broken leg.)
Two years later, the Canadiens once again found themselves facing the Black Hawks in the finals. Amazingly, injury would once again dog Laperriere against the Hawks.
“I got hit by a stick and broke my nose,” Laperriere told Dick Irvin. “I went to the hospital and they had to operate. It was broken in seven places … the next day I showed up at the Forum with a big plaster on my nose and I had two black eyes. Sam Pollock looked at me and said, ‘Oh, it’s not too bad, Jacques. You could play tonight.”
Playing with a protective mask, Laperriere once again excelled as helped the Canadiens capture another Stanley Cup, his sixth with the team.What I remember most about Laperriere was his slap shot. You never knew where it was going - literally. He would miss the net by a mile as often as not. It used to be a hoot watching him wind up and let it go.
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