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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 25, 2015 10:54:23 GMT -5
Please see items 28 and 29: 28. Nathan Beaulieu set a personal high for minutes played in a game three times in his last four outings, culminating with 25:29 in St. Louis Tuesday night.
“We had to make him understand that creating two chances a game was not good, if he was giving up six,” AHL Hamilton coach Sylvain Lefebvre said. “He’s learned that.”
Lefebvre added that Beaulieu fighting David Clarkson after Clarkson knocked down Sergei Gonchar “showed how much (Beaulieu) wanted to stay, because it wasn’t something he’d normally do.”
29. Lefebvre also shared intel on Greg Pateryn and Jarred Tinordi, also getting their opportunities now.
Pateryn scored 15 goals last year as a power-play option. “He’s got a great shot, and we used his one-timer. But he wasn’t going to get that time in Montreal. So we asked him if he could make a contribution without the power-play.” He is doing that.
As for Tinordi, he’s got a bit of Tyler Myers in him, brutally hard on himself. “He’d make a mistake and stay down on himself. He’d be on the bench, upset at letting down his teammates.” Lefebvre wants him to let it go and get ready for the next play. In addition, Tinordi’s got to show effective physical play and an ability to complete quick breakout passes, something he’s done in the AHL but not yet in the NHL.February 25, 2015, 10:05 AMCheers.
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Post by Gogie on Feb 25, 2015 12:09:06 GMT -5
Maybe the "problem" with Lefebvre in Hamilton is that he spends too much time trying to teach his players and not enough time trying to put a winning team on the ice. I've been as anti-Lefebvre as the next guy because I've seen the problems the Dogs have on the ice, but maybe, just maybe, Lefebvre is doing what he was hired to do.
Just saying.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 25, 2015 12:34:17 GMT -5
Lefebvre's comment about making Beaulieu understand that creating two chances a game was not good, if he was giving up six, reminded me of some of Subban's development as well ...
Cheers.
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Post by frozone on Feb 25, 2015 13:11:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Dis.
I'm a bit surprised at the Pateryn comments. So the coaching staff discovered an important skill of his, and they purposely chose NOT to nurture and develop that talent? I don't like hearing that at all. The development team should be aiming to get the most out of each prospect instead of limiting their upside.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 25, 2015 14:53:07 GMT -5
I don't get it. Yes, Lefebvre's job is to develop the prospects for the big team, no question. That's not mutually exclusive, though, with putting together a winning team. The year before we won the 86 cup, key contributors in that victory won the Calder cup in the AHL. Brian Skrudlund, Mike Lalor, Stephane Richer and Patrick Roy all learned something from that experience. Heck, even Michel Therrien played on that team. Yes, I want Lefebvre working with our prospects. There's a big gap in their development, though, if they don't win more than they lose. They don't have to win the League every year, or even once every 10 years, but make the playoffs, please and win a round here or there. If you win a championship, even better. There's a lot to be learned by winning.
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Post by habsorbed on Feb 25, 2015 15:29:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Dis. I'm a bit surprised at the Pateryn comments. So the coaching staff discovered an important skill of his, and they purposely chose NOT to nurture and develop that talent? I don't like hearing that at all. The development team should be aiming to get the most out of each prospect instead of limiting their upside. I agree entirely. Why would you discourage a natural skill because others on the big team already have it? Let the skill flourish! It can create good competition, be used when an injury occurs, and at the very least be used as trade bait when he scores 25 goals in the AHL. Lefevre sounds just like MT: "I don't care if the peg is round. It is going in that square hole or it's going nowhere!"
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Post by blny on Feb 25, 2015 15:36:45 GMT -5
I also agree. There's no positive development in stifling skill. While Pateryn is up, why not pair him with Beaulieu on the second PP unit. Let Nate serve up a few one timers.
Plus, part of developing pros in the right way is seeing that they grow in a winning culture. IMO, there's little point in a winning culture at the NHL level if they have no idea how to fit in and work within one. Expose them to a winning ideal from the offing.
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Post by Disp on Feb 25, 2015 18:11:08 GMT -5
It's pretty easy to question the coaching in Hamilton, there hasn't been much success team wise, but it's hard to argue with the way the kids play when they're called up.
I don't think Pateryn is going to stick in the lineup as a pp specialist. It's the other parts of the game he probably needs to focus on. Bad coaching, or being realistic?
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