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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 3, 2015 8:19:25 GMT -5
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Post by Douper on Mar 3, 2015 17:04:18 GMT -5
I've been looking at ways to get the EGG line back together...
Patches Desharnais_________ _________Plekanec__________ Prust De La Rose __________ _________ Eller _________
I'm curious to know how this could work for us....
Patches Desharnais Weiss/PAP Galchenyuk Eller Gallagher Mitchell Plekanec DSP Prust DLR Flynn
This leaves PAP, Malholtra out of the lineup. I think PAP deserves a chance in the lineup to earn his spot on the top line at the same time you can't take Weiss out. But I think the EGG line needs to be put together again before the playoffs so we can light a fire on Eller's - - - . They were so productive together for the short time they played. Pleky gets the raw deal out of it but I think they could be a GREAT 3rd line. This would allow us to roll 4 lines with no problems.
Also on Defense, I would like to try and split Markov and Subban for a bit:
Subban Beaulieu Markov Petry Gilbert Emelin/Gonchar
Price
Just throwing these out there....What do you guys think?
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Post by seventeen on Mar 3, 2015 18:32:47 GMT -5
I like your defense pairings in a lot of ways. I might find a concern here or there, but those concerns would be there even if the pairings were different. I think it makes sense to get Markov to the second pairing, where maybe he plays just a little less, but can still play a big role. What those pairing should do is even out the ice time a bit, which helps out everyone.
Up front, I think we have to look at how to ease DD out of the line-up. I just don't think the creativity and vision he brings make up for the many times he loses the puck and is forced into turnover situations. For now, I'd definitely move him down to the 3rd line left wing where he was playing quite well against lesser opponents. I'd make my first line, Patches-Pleks-Gallagher. My thrown together second line is a mashup because we don't have the right guys there. I'd have had Galchenyuk -Eller-Sekac, but Jiri is gone and Eller's in by default because really, you should have someone better than Eller. For now, Weise slots on RW because there's no one else. DD, Prust, DLR possibly the 3rd line. The fourth line is a mix and match of Mitchell,Flynn, Bournival, Malhotra and Smith-Pelley. Try Flynn, Mitchell and take your pick on the 4th line.
A top flight RW would move Gallagher down to line 2 where he really belongs. Eventually, Galchenyuk has to go to centre or we have to trade for a top centre or maybe a kid like Reway comes in and boggles everyone. Gotta get better at centre and RW on line 1, which strengthens everyone down the ladder as they move down. We're still not strong enough. Balanced, but not strong.
My line-up shouts out that Berg still has a way to go. IN 2 years, McCarron and Scherbak will help fix our really weak right wing problems and I have high hopes for Reway at centre, but they'll still be really young and won't have an impact next year. Nope, a trade is the only way we get a quick improvement for next year.
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 4, 2015 1:25:39 GMT -5
So in my mind DSP is now 0 for 3 in his games with the Habs. He has shown no better than 4th line material. Let's see how he does against his former team. Often that brings the best out of some of these guys. But I'm not holding my breath. And I will be very melancholy watching Sekac, the guy we let get away.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 4, 2015 1:49:31 GMT -5
Me too, but maybe MT can work his development magic with Devante Smith-Pelley. The guy has something to work with. He has a good attitude, decent wheels and some strength, so hopefully there's more to come.
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 4, 2015 3:17:57 GMT -5
Me too, but maybe MT can work his development magic with Devante Smith-Pelley. The guy has something to work with. He has a good attitude, decent wheels and some strength, so hopefully there's more to come. I'd have more hope if we weren't relying on MT's development magic.
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Post by Disp on Mar 4, 2015 8:06:44 GMT -5
Me too, but maybe MT can work his development magic with Devante Smith-Pelley. The guy has something to work with. He has a good attitude, decent wheels and some strength, so hopefully there's more to come. I'd have more hope if we weren't relying on MT's development magic. Why? We have players who are pretty darn good that MT has had a hand in developing. We can question his methods, but the results are there. We won a few games with the youngest lineup in the league within the last month. I used to think that MT had no patience with the young guys. The truth is he really does, but not in the way that most of us think. He's not going to play them or use them in ways if he feels they aren't ready. If they're ready for a certain role, away they go. Look at DLR. Gallagher got Calder votes, PK won a norris. Galch is coming along, NB looks like a lightbulb finally went on in his head. Pretty much every call up this year looked like they could play, and were used in ways that were appropriate. I had doubts when MT was hired. Kind of an "Oh no! Not again" moment. He's won me over. Some need to let it go.
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Post by jkr on Mar 4, 2015 8:30:53 GMT -5
So in my mind DSP is now 0 for 3 in his games with the Habs. He has shown no better than 4th line material. Let's see how he does against his former team. Often that brings the best out of some of these guys. But I'm not holding my breath. And I will be very melancholy watching Sekac, the guy we let get away. Sekac has 2 assists in 4 games with Anaheim but he hasn't scored despite getting about 15 minutes of ice time. His goalless drought is now 25 games. I'm not melancholy about that. His highest goal total in the KHL was 11 in 47 games. So why do people think that will translate into a 20 + goal scorer in the NHL?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2015 8:59:40 GMT -5
Sekac has 2 assists in 4 games with Anaheim but he hasn't scored despite getting about 15 minutes of ice time. His goalless drought is now 25 games. I'm not melancholy about that.[/quote] That's more than DSL has provided us ... at least Sekac is in game shape ... I think it might have had a lot to do with the hype the press gave him ... the press was extremely positive on him signing with Montreal ... so much so, that I was under the impression Bergevin had signed an impact player, more so when they went on to mention just how many teams were vying for him ... there was a lot of hype surrounding his signing, so I don't blame folks for being disappointed to this point ... me, I thought he had a future in Montreal on one of the two top lines ... that's the expectation I had after all the press hype ... Cheers.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2015 9:12:36 GMT -5
I've been looking at ways to get the EGG line back together... Patches Desharnais_________ _________ Plekanec__________ Prust De La Rose __________ _________ Eller _________ I'm curious to know how this could work for us.... Patches Desharnais Weiss/PAP Galchenyuk Eller Gallagher Mitchell Plekanec DSP Prust DLR Flynn This leaves PAP, Malholtra out of the lineup. I think PAP deserves a chance in the lineup to earn his spot on the top line at the same time you can't take Weiss out. But I think the EGG line needs to be put together again before the playoffs so we can light a fire on Eller's - - - . They were so productive together for the short time they played. Pleky gets the raw deal out of it but I think they could be a GREAT 3rd line. This would allow us to roll 4 lines with no problems. Also on Defense, I would like to try and split Markov and Subban for a bit: Subban Beaulieu Markov Petry Gilbert Emelin/Gonchar Price Just throwing these out there....What do you guys think? I know it won't happen but put DD on the third and Pleky on the first and I'd be happy with what you have for the forwards. I really like the 4th line you have.
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Post by franko on Mar 4, 2015 10:04:46 GMT -5
His highest goal total in the KHL was 11 in 47 games. So why do people think that will translate into a 20 + goal scorer in the NHL? because 11 in 47 equates to about 20 in 82? I do agree that he may not have been given much of a chance to succeed goal-scoring-wise on the third line . . . and I like the kid . . . but I've moved on. unless he scores three tonight and DSP goes AWOL
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2015 10:33:27 GMT -5
Me too, but maybe MT can work his development magic with Devante Smith-Pelley. The guy has something to work with. He has a good attitude, decent wheels and some strength, so hopefully there's more to come. I'd have more hope if we weren't relying on MT's development magic. I was talking with a few of the guys here at work, but against San Jose we had three four players in the lineup that either haven't been there for a while, or who were playing their first game ... DSP, Gonchar, PAP and Petry ... that's a lot of change to the lineup in a short period of time ... not sure about tonight's game ... I'll probably watch the first period then go to ground after that ... hope they can put it together ... Cheers.
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Post by franko on Mar 4, 2015 10:35:54 GMT -5
Me too, but maybe MT can work his development magic with Devante Smith-Pelley. The guy has something to work with. He has a good attitude, decent wheels and some strength, so hopefully there's more to come. I'd have more hope if we weren't relying on MT's development magic. it wasn't so long ago that I'd have wholeheartedly agreed with you . . . but I look at where we are in the standings and the consistency of the team and . . . well . . . I'm not a big MT fan (or even a small one, really), but I can't deny what he's done (do you know how hard it is for me to say that?)
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Post by jkr on Mar 4, 2015 11:03:10 GMT -5
His highest goal total in the KHL was 11 in 47 games. So why do people think that will translate into a 20 + goal scorer in the NHL? because 11 in 47 equates to about 20 in 82? But the KHL <<< NHL.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2015 11:21:26 GMT -5
Sekac has 2 assists in 4 games with Anaheim but he hasn't scored despite getting about 15 minutes of ice time. His goalless drought is now 25 games. I'm not melancholy about that. That's more than DSL has provided us ... at least Sekac is in game shape ... I think it might have had a lot to do with the hype the press gave him ... the press was extremely positive on him signing with Montreal ... so much so, that I was under the impression Bergevin had signed an impact player, more so when they went on to mention just how many teams were vying for him ... there was a lot of hype surrounding his signing, so I don't blame folks for being disappointed to this point ... me, I thought he had a future in Montreal on one of the two top lines ... that's the expectation I had after all the press hype ... Cheers. I'm disappointed he wasn't given the chance that MT gave other guys such as DD & Bourque. I get a kick out of it when people say we traded a player we have an abundance of and that Anaheim did the same thing with DSP. We don't have an abundance of guys with size and skill. Sekac, Eller and Galchenyuk all have size and skill but have been told to play a certain way...defense first. Then fans get peeved when a supposed offensive player doesn't produce offensively. I understand why MB picked up DSP and that the cost was Sekac and I hope DSP pays dividends in the playoffs but IMO Sekac could have well been our 2nd line scoring winger if he was given a real chance to show what he could do. I am pretty sure Sekac will learn how to drive to the net hard playing with Getzlaf and Perry and he already does a very good job controlling the puck along the boards. He will help them a lot more than DSP could IMO.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 4, 2015 12:14:09 GMT -5
Let me put out an example of a development style that differs between Therrien and some other coaches. Seth Jones gets drafted and gets paired with Shea Weber. Not only paired, but put on his wrong side with him. Larry Robinson comes up from the AHL and gets paired with Serge Savard. Doug Hamilton gets paired with Zdeno Chara. I was reminded of this again last night watching Yannick Weber. He was playing ok, compared to his adventures while he was with us. I looked over to the left side and there's Dan Hamhuis.
Nathan Beaulieu comes up and gets paired with who? I can't recall exactly, but he served a number of 3rd pairing roles with any number of guys who range from ok to AHL material. And then he blossomed, right after he was paired with Sergei Gonchar.
To me this indicates a lack of understanding as to what is required to help a young guy and put him in a position to succeed. Perhaps you see it differently, but I see that he lacks confidence in young guys and doesn't play them with his best.
I firmly believe that some guys will succeed in almost all cases, either because of supreme confidence or a lot of talent or a combination of the two. That's a small number of palyers with those qualities. Then there are a whole whack of guys who need help to get to their best level. I put PK and AGal in that first category. Please name me a young guy other than Beaulieu, whose success was due to a non-typical Therrien strategy explained above, who is significantly better now than he was before MT got his hands on him.
I think Therrien's development abilities are one of the larger myths out there, with very little evidence to back it up.
I suspect one would have to have to conduct a thorough statistical analysis of all players who have gone through Therrien's hands to see if there's a statistically relevant answer. My gut feel is that he's not especially good at developing.
A more typical progress, as exhibited by Tinordi and Bournival, is that the player seems to have some promise, does some things well and then regresses.
So putting aside MT's coaching skills, lets just look at his development skills and dig up some facts. Show me the money as they say in the movies, or Missouri. ;
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 4, 2015 12:19:35 GMT -5
I've watched darn near every game this year. I look at the standings and I'm not surprised in the least to see Carey Price leading in Ws, GAA, and Save Pct.
Price has allowed 2 goals or less 35 times this year.
The Habs are 31-3-1 in those games.
Shutouts: 6-0-0 1 goal: 17-0-0 2 goals: 8-3-1
Wish I could find the graphic that charts the shots-taken areas. From what I heard on the radio a couple of weeks ago, Price faces far more in the danger zones than does Rinne.
If anyone deserves the adage, "Show me a great coach…and I'll show you a great goalie!" it's MT.
IMO.
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 4, 2015 12:38:23 GMT -5
I'd have more hope if we weren't relying on MT's development magic. it wasn't so long ago that I'd have wholeheartedly agreed with you . . . but I look at where we are in the standings and the consistency of the team and . . . well . . . I'm not a big MT fan (or even a small one, really), but I can't deny what he's done (do you know how hard it is for me to say that?) It's easier to say "Carey Price"! One because the stats don't ;i.e. nor has his play. Two because PK was going to be PK good from the get go regardless of the obstacles MT put up - we could all see that. BGal is all heart and effort which is innate and has nothing to do with MT. Who knows how good Chucky would be right now if he had been handled properly from the outset - perhaps our first line centre? Don't even get me going on Eller. So let's see how MT does without the all-world goalie. So far his stats aren't very good!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2015 12:44:17 GMT -5
Well, there is a game between 1st-place teams tonight ... I can't find the projected lineups just yet but NHL.com's preview of the game says that both Flynn and Mitchell hope to play against the Ducks ... I'm not sure dressing these guys pluse DSP, PAP and DLR would give the club the best chance at winning ... but, I don't make those decisions ... here's what I was able to find from DailyFaceoff.com ... this is one of the sites I use for fantasy hockey ... it's usually not too bad and they're good at last-minute revisions ... if these are the forward combinations then my hat goes off to Dale Weise ... the guy does what he's told game in, game out and we don't hear a peep from him ... you need guys like him to win ... Forward Lines Max Pacioretty/David Desharnais/Brendan Gallagher Lars Eller/Tomas Plekanec/Alex Galchenyuk Brandon Prust/Jacob De La Rose/Devante Smith-Pelly P.A. Parenteau/Manny Malhotra/Dale Weise Defensive Pairings Andrei Markov P.K. Subban Nathan Beaulieu Tom Gilbert Sergei Gonchar Jeff Petry
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 4, 2015 13:02:07 GMT -5
Is Price playing tonight or tomorrow. Can't see him playing back to back. So do you play him against the other top team in the NHL tonight or against the defending Cup champs tomorrow?
This could be a very ugly road trip. SJ may have been our easiest game and we didn't show up.
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Post by Disp on Mar 4, 2015 13:09:54 GMT -5
Let me put out an example of a development style that differs between Therrien and some other coaches. Seth Jones gets drafted and gets paired with Shea Weber. Not only paired, but put on his wrong side with him. Larry Robinson comes up from the AHL and gets paired with Serge Savard. Doug Hamilton gets paired with Zdeno Chara. I was reminded of this again last night watching Yannick Weber. He was playing ok, compared to his adventures while he was with us. I looked over to the left side and there's Dan Hamhuis. Nathan Beaulieu comes up and gets paired with who? I can't recall exactly, but he served a number of 3rd pairing roles with any number of guys who range from ok to AHL material. And then he blossomed, right after he was paired with Sergei Gonchar. To me this indicates a lack of understanding as to what is required to help a young guy and put him in a position to succeed. Perhaps you see it differently, but I see that he lacks confidence in young guys and doesn't play them with his best. I firmly believe that some guys will succeed in almost all cases, either because of supreme confidence or a lot of talent or a combination of the two. That's a small number of palyers with those qualities. Then there are a whole whack of guys who need help to get to their best level. I put PK and AGal in that first category. Please name me a young guy other than Beaulieu, whose success was due to a non-typical Therrien strategy explained above, who is significantly better now than he was before MT got his hands on him. I think Therrien's development abilities are one of the larger myths out there, with very little evidence to back it up. I suspect one would have to have to conduct a thorough statistical analysis of all players who have gone through Therrien's hands to see if there's a statistically relevant answer. My gut feel is that he's not especially good at developing. A more typical progress, as exhibited by Tinordi and Bournival, is that the player seems to have some promise, does some things well and then regresses. So putting aside MT's coaching skills, lets just look at his development skills and dig up some facts. Show me the money as they say in the movies, or Missouri. ; So to sum up your post. When the guys make it, they'd have made it anyways. When they don't its MT's fault.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2015 13:10:37 GMT -5
Don't know guys ... just about every championship team I've heard of has had blue-chip goaltending first and foremost ... I used to be a detractor of Therrien's but the results are there and I can't share the opinion that our club is winning despite the coaching ... there have been a lot of changes this year and our club remains in first place ... there's something to be said for that ... sure, Price is our best player (maybe the best in the league, dunno) but Patrick Roy was spectacular in both of the Cups ... if it wasn't for his superior play I doubt we'd have both those Cups ... I don't hear anything about Roy bailing out Jean Perron (and the 10 rookies he had on the roster) ... I don't hear anything about Roy bailing out Jacques Demers (and the 10 OT wins) ... it takes a complete team effort to win Cups, sure, but it was Roy who won the Conn Smythe Trophy each time and for good reason ... if we happen to go all the way this year (the Rangers are the team to beat, IMHO) it will probably be because of stellar goaltending ... what's the difference between '86/'93 and now (other than the missing Cup) ...
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 4, 2015 13:22:56 GMT -5
Is Price playing tonight or tomorrow. Can't see him playing back to back. So do you play him against the other top team in the NHL tonight or against the defending Cup champs tomorrow? This could be a very ugly road trip. SJ may have been our easiest game and we didn't show up. First time I've used this site, but according to LeftWingLock.com it's Price ... I'm very interested in seeing how both DSP and Sekac do tonight ... not sure I'll make the whole game or not ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 4, 2015 13:46:29 GMT -5
Nice post, Dis.
Yes, in almost every instance…a successful team has a great goaltender. All of our Cups were built upon dominant net-minding…especially when it counted.
It's just been a while since a Habs' goalie has dominated a regular season with these numbers. Especially garnering so many first-star performances.
RE: Therrien. Of course, what matters only is how the players feel about and perform for him. Unless we're flies on the wall AND understand what kind of skills it takes to communicate with and manage pro athletes, we really have no clue.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 4, 2015 13:52:41 GMT -5
Let me put out an example of a development style that differs between Therrien and some other coaches. Seth Jones gets drafted and gets paired with Shea Weber. Not only paired, but put on his wrong side with him. Larry Robinson comes up from the AHL and gets paired with Serge Savard. Doug Hamilton gets paired with Zdeno Chara. I was reminded of this again last night watching Yannick Weber. He was playing ok, compared to his adventures while he was with us. I looked over to the left side and there's Dan Hamhuis. Nathan Beaulieu comes up and gets paired with who? I can't recall exactly, but he served a number of 3rd pairing roles with any number of guys who range from ok to AHL material. And then he blossomed, right after he was paired with Sergei Gonchar. To me this indicates a lack of understanding as to what is required to help a young guy and put him in a position to succeed. Perhaps you see it differently, but I see that he lacks confidence in young guys and doesn't play them with his best. I firmly believe that some guys will succeed in almost all cases, either because of supreme confidence or a lot of talent or a combination of the two. That's a small number of palyers with those qualities. Then there are a whole whack of guys who need help to get to their best level. I put PK and AGal in that first category. Please name me a young guy other than Beaulieu, whose success was due to a non-typical Therrien strategy explained above, who is significantly better now than he was before MT got his hands on him. I think Therrien's development abilities are one of the larger myths out there, with very little evidence to back it up. I suspect one would have to have to conduct a thorough statistical analysis of all players who have gone through Therrien's hands to see if there's a statistically relevant answer. My gut feel is that he's not especially good at developing. A more typical progress, as exhibited by Tinordi and Bournival, is that the player seems to have some promise, does some things well and then regresses. So putting aside MT's coaching skills, lets just look at his development skills and dig up some facts. Show me the money as they say in the movies, or Missouri. ; So to sum up your post. When the guys make it, they'd have made it anyways. When they don't its MT's fault. Almost . I'm trying to filter out the benefit that accrues to any coach for factors outside of their purview. If you're an average coach, with a goalie like Price, you're going to have a better than even chance of winning, almost despite how the rest of the team is. There are some players who could play for Mike Babcock, or for Peter Horachek and still be great players. I don't want to credit either Mike Babcock or Peter Horachek for guys like that. No matter what they'd do those guys would turn out well. As I said, that's a pretty small number of players and they have to be exceptional. PK is one guy because of talent and confidence and I added Galchy as well, though I'd accept an argument to the contrary with regards to him. Special players. Then there's the rest and that's what I'm asking. Give me some examples of players who have been delivered into Michel's hands who are now demonstrably better than when they arrived. I'm willing to have my opinion changed, but I need more than some employee of the Canadiens saying it's so to make it so. I hope that's clearer. I'm being objective but I don't want to credit or blame him for things in which he has had no impact. That's why I used Beaulieu as an example. I can't honestly say he was much better until Gonchar arrived then he was in any of of his stints in the past two years. His example is perhaps the most striking, especially when compared with other young defensemen who were paired up by other coaches with an excellent partner almost from the get go. That brought up the question, "Is Therrien placing these guys where they can succeed?". Was Sekac played where he would succeed or have we lost some asset value in a trade because the coach did not do a good enough job? As an aside, I think it was assumed by many people because Sekac was a skilled player that he was a scorer. Looking at his prior stats, it's obvious that he is more of a playmaker than scorer. The logical spot for him would be on a line with Patches and Pleks. Both are reasonable playmakers, but both can score, especially Patches. Why not put a playmaker with two guys who can score? That's a question you'd have to ask Therrien. To me that would be putting a guy in a position to succeed and unless one has superior options available, why not? Ask yourself if we had superior options? Then if he still only puts up 2 points in 20 games, yeah, it's not working. Unfortunately, we've seen Therrien's patience last a shift or two, not several games. Is that a good apprpoach? These are all questions I ask myself when judging a person's performance. I can't help it, I'm a serial analyzer. Anyway, I hope I answered your question. PS. I just remembered what Markov did for Komisarek. Talk about turning a sow's ear into a silk purse. At least until he left for Toronto.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2015 14:29:19 GMT -5
Nice post, Dis. Yes, in almost every instance…a successful team has a great goaltender. All of our Cups were built upon dominant net-minding…especially when it counted. It's just been a while since a Habs' goalie has dominated a regular season with these numbers. Especially garnering so many first-star performances. RE: Therrien. Of course, what matters only is how the players feel about and perform for him. Unless we're flies on the wall AND understand what kind of skills it takes to communicate with and manage pro athletes, we really have no clue. I would think that when Roy was winning cups for Canadiens fans, we were doing the same thing about Perron and Demers that is being done with MT. The coaches and players change but the fans stay the same. If Price wins a cup in a fashion as dramatic and compelling as Roy did 20+ years ago, I and sure in another 20 years time, no one will mention MT... except a few posters on HabsRus.... including me . And in reality, the only previous coaches I really see mentioned regularily are the ones who coached the dynasties... Irvin, Blake & Bowman
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 4, 2015 14:50:34 GMT -5
The lineup from today's practice was..... Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher Eller-Plekanec-Galchenyuk Parenteau-JDLR-Smith-Pelly Prust-Flynn-Mitchell Habs practice lines
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Post by Skilly on Mar 4, 2015 14:51:28 GMT -5
So in my mind DSP is now 0 for 3 in his games with the Habs. He has shown no better than 4th line material. Let's see how he does against his former team. Often that brings the best out of some of these guys. But I'm not holding my breath. And I will be very melancholy watching Sekac, the guy we let get away. Sekac has 2 assists in 4 games with Anaheim but he hasn't scored despite getting about 15 minutes of ice time. His goalless drought is now 25 games. I'm not melancholy about that. His highest goal total in the KHL was 11 in 47 games. So why do people think that will translate into a 20 + goal scorer in the NHL? And I'm wondering why Sekac is the only one you point to on this matter .... He is a rookie, in a new country, a new league, smaller rinks, playing on the third line and you expect him to score goals like he is a first liner??? That's a bit much. He had 7 goals, playing primarily on the third line with just under 700 minutes of ice-time. I don't hear anyone asking for more goals from Desharnais?? He has 11 goals, playing just under 1100 minutes of ice time, WITH PP time thrown in there!! Plus his linemates are exponentially better than Sekac's and Desharnais played primarily on the first line. The goal drought? Prior to being traded every player on the bottom six was in the same 20+ game drought, but it's only the rookie that is getting the criticism. You want offensive players to succeed, you put them in offensive situations. I'm reminded of when we had Guilliame Latendresse. One year, his line started the year on a tear. They were statistically one of the best lines after the first couple of weeks of the season. Latendresse faced criticism because he wasn't scoring, but he had 9 assists (I think it was nine, maybe 8). They split the line up, Lats was never the same. You do the job you are given. Sekac was asked to play defense. If management wanted goals from him, there was an empty spot open on the top line, yet they preferred to put Weise there. Weise has 9 goals,.. I'm not sure how many he got while on the top line .... But imagine if Sekac was there!?? EDIT Sekac's ice time was 13:48 per game , with 0:39 per game coming on the PP
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Post by Skilly on Mar 4, 2015 15:00:16 GMT -5
And the craziest thing?
As I mentioned above, Sekac had 0:39 per game on the PP. (A whooping 33:00 mins this entire year). Of his 7 goals, 2 came on the PP.
Why is this significant? The PP is an offensive role obviously, and Sekac was our most prolific PP scorer (based on ice time)
Subban has 6, Patches has 5, Markov has 4, Plekanec has 3
Galchenyuk has 1.
Why wasn't Sekac used more often on the PP?
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Post by Polarice on Mar 4, 2015 15:00:14 GMT -5
The lineup from today's practice was..... Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher Eller-Plekanec-Galchenyuk Parenteau-JDLR-Smith-Pelly Prust-Flynn-Mitchell Habs practice linesI like the looks of the lines....lost of grit on the bottom two. I imagine that Weise will be rotation with Mitchell for now.
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