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Post by habsorbed on Mar 27, 2015 22:08:10 GMT -5
Why not try DSP on the PP and tell him job is to get in the goalie's grill at every opportunity. Gotta find some way for him to contribute….because, to date, we've seen little of what was advertised. I'd rather Rosey. By the way, how exactly was DSP advertised? I've been perplexed ever since I heard of the trade and have yet to hear a plausible rational. Although some suggest his problem is he came here out of shape. That really doesn't provide me any comfort regarding his work ethic or attitude. And I've given up on his skill. So does he speak French?
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Post by Skilly on Mar 27, 2015 22:21:23 GMT -5
We had TWO lines clicking 20-40 games ago and pretty much right at the switch to reunite DD with Pacioretty is where we start to see the struggles we currently see with BOTH lines. So I won't put words in your mouth .... But you prefer to watch him get out of his funk on his own now, when he , DD, and Pacioretty statistically were never in a funk to begin with? He was succeeding in spades with first line and second line minutes in those 13 games ... But he is all of a sudden going through growing pains? I don't buy it.
I'm not going to blame DD, Therrien or anyone .... But if you go through our game sheets, even a blind man can see what our BEST lineup is. And it doesn't include DD on a line with Pacioretty, and we were scoring more when DD was on the wing. However, it wasn't that much more than when DD centered Galchenyuk. So I'm not even saying move DD to the wing.
This "funk" the entire team is in, is the direct result of not having an offensive option for the second line. So yes,I'm going to rehash an old arguement. Even though Sekac wasn't producing (on the third line), the Habs miss having that option.
As long as we insist on DD as a first liner (and now PAP) then we will struggle to score. But even as early as this year we found the solution, but the magnets that are Pacioretty and DD find their way back together.
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 27, 2015 22:22:59 GMT -5
Galchy is an agreeable 21-year-old kid who has said he will play wherever his coach tells him to play.
He is also on record as saying he'd be ready and willing to play centre again, should the circumstances call for it.
It's a 100% coaching decision.
If our #1 line gets shut down early and often in the playoffs, and MT needs to get Pacioretty going….he may have no choice. It might not work, either….but at least the attempt can be made.
Or put Pleks up with Max. Something has to create goals…and if the first 75 games are any indication…
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Post by Skilly on Mar 27, 2015 22:24:10 GMT -5
Why not try DSP on the PP and tell him job is to get in the goalie's grill at every opportunity. Gotta find some way for him to contribute….because, to date, we've seen little of what was advertised. I'd rather Rosey. By the way, how exactly was DSP advertised? I've been perplexed ever since I heard of the trade and have yet to hear a plausible rational. Although some suggest his problem is he came here out of shape. That really doesn't provide me any comfort regarding his work ethic or attitude. And I've given up on his skill. So does he speak French? He came for grit. And he only marginally improved that area. But the thing is we lacked scoring, way more than we ever lacked grit. We only need grit if we want to engage in that stuff. But we have seen that Montreal plays better, and gets under teams skins way more, when we walk away from that stuff
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 27, 2015 22:31:53 GMT -5
Why not try DSP on the PP and tell him job is to get in the goalie's grill at every opportunity. Gotta find some way for him to contribute….because, to date, we've seen little of what was advertised. I'd rather Rosey. By the way, how exactly was DSP advertised? I've been perplexed ever since I heard of the trade and have yet to hear a plausible rational. Although some suggest his problem is he came here out of shape. That really doesn't provide me any comfort regarding his work ethic or attitude. And I've given up on his skill. So does he speak French? Bergevin explained their reasoning this way: There are players who get you to the playoffs…and there are players who get you through the playoffs. He put DSP in the latter category. So he's obviously looking for toughness, grit, solid defensive play….and the occasional goal or two. RE: Out of shape. Anaheim had been barely playing him at the time of the trade. It's a chicken-egg thing. Were the Ducks not playing him because he was out of shape? Or did he fall out of shape because the Ducks weren't playing him? Both could speak to attitude, nonetheless.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 27, 2015 22:36:25 GMT -5
I think my playoff lineup would have Parenteau on the bench , and I was really hoping PAP would do well here.
Pacioretty-Plekanec-DLR Galchenyuk-DD-Gallagher Prust-Eller-Weise Flynn-Mitchell-DSP
Or we could go with
Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gallagher Galchenyuk-DD-Weise Prust-Eller-DLR
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Post by seventeen on Mar 27, 2015 23:56:16 GMT -5
I think it's a good idea to separate Desharnais and Patches because DD plays a better all around game when he's not with Max. If I was defending DD on a line with Max, I would never, ever play DD to shoot. Always cheat to the pass to Max. Because he always does. When he's not with Max, however, he'll have to broaden his game and shoot more. He's got a decent shot, so using it is not disadvantageous. Heck, if he shot more with Max, they'd probably both have more points. But he can't seem to bring himself to do that. It's as if the legend has taken over his game. Anyway, it won't solve all our problems, but it might jump start both DD and Galchy. It's not as if the status quo is functioning brilliantly.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 28, 2015 13:13:45 GMT -5
I think my playoff lineup would have Parenteau on the bench , and I was really hoping PAP would do well here. Pacioretty-Plekanec-DLR Galchenyuk-DD-Gallagher Prust-Eller-Weise Flynn-Mitchell-DSP Or we could go with Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gallagher Galchenyuk-DD-Weise Prust-Eller-DLR Skilly i like you second option but how about Pacioretty-Plekanec-DLR DLR would go to the net and make space for the other 2 Galchenyuk-DD-Weise Weise would do what DLR does, DD is a good passer and Galchy can be the shooter Prust-Eller-Gallagher An energy line that can score Flynn-Mitchell-DSP A face off winning checking line I like that lineup... and the 3rd and 4th lines would forecheck the daylights out of the opposition
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Post by jkr on Mar 28, 2015 15:58:32 GMT -5
I'd rather Rosey. By the way, how exactly was DSP advertised? I've been perplexed ever since I heard of the trade and have yet to hear a plausible rational. Although some suggest his problem is he came here out of shape. That really doesn't provide me any comfort regarding his work ethic or attitude. And I've given up on his skill. So does he speak French? Bergevin explained their reasoning this way: There are players who get you to the playoffs…and there are players who get you through the playoffs. He put DSP in the latter category. So he's obviously looking for toughness, grit, solid defensive play….and the occasional goal or two. RE: Out of shape. Anaheim had been barely playing him at the time of the trade. It's a chicken-egg thing. Were the Ducks not playing him because he was out of shape? Or did he fall out of shape because the Ducks weren't playing him? Both could speak to attitude, nonetheless. On the other side, I am wondering why Anaheim was interested in Sekac. From the summaries I see ( I haven't looked at all of them) he is not playing on the no. 1 line. One of his assists was on a Perry goal just after he got to Anaheim but he's also had a lot of pointless games. He seems to spend his time with Rakell. Did the Ducks want scoring there? And his ice time seems to range from 14 minutes to sometimes 6-7 and one scratch. His usage in Anaheim seems similar to his time in MTL. I have a feeling that neither team is happy with how this trade is playing out.
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 28, 2015 16:11:35 GMT -5
Why not try DSP on the PP and tell him job is to get in the goalie's grill at every opportunity. Gotta find some way for him to contribute….because, to date, we've seen little of what was advertised. I'd rather Rosey. By the way, how exactly was DSP advertised? I've been perplexed ever since I heard of the trade and have yet to hear a plausible rational. Although some suggest his problem is he came here out of shape. That really doesn't provide me any comfort regarding his work ethic or attitude. And I've given up on his skill. So does he speak French? DSP had good playoff for Ducks last year. Played a role in trade no doubt.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 1, 2015 15:40:28 GMT -5
I think my playoff lineup would have Parenteau on the bench , and I was really hoping PAP would do well here. Pacioretty-Plekanec-DLR Galchenyuk-DD-Gallagher Prust-Eller-Weise Flynn-Mitchell-DSP Or we could go with Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gallagher Galchenyuk-DD-Weise Prust-Eller-DLR Following the loss to Tampa, Therrien tweaked the lines today .. Mac Pacioretty-Tomas Plekanec-Brendan Gallagher Alex Galchenyuk-David Desharnais-P.A. Parenteau Brandon Prust-Lars Eller-Dale Weise Jacob de la Rose-Torrey Mitchell/Brian Flynn-Devante Smith-Pelly I'd swap out Parenteau with DLR, but he is as close to my lineup as he has been all year
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Post by seventeen on Apr 1, 2015 16:05:06 GMT -5
Slow learner?
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Post by franko on Apr 1, 2015 16:56:02 GMT -5
I was going to start a thread titled "MT gone" as an April Fools thing but thought that I'd rather keep my life/not be banned for life.
so "slow learner" will have to do.
besides, Lent isn't over until Sunday.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 1, 2015 17:38:02 GMT -5
I was going to start a thread titled "MT gone" as an April Fools thing but thought that I'd rather keep my life/not be banned for life. so "slow learner" will have to do. besides, Lent isn't over until Sunday. Is that where you have to eat lentils for so many weeks? Kinda like muslims have to stay at Ramada Inns during Ramadan. I'll never understand how these things get started.
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Post by franko on Apr 1, 2015 18:16:05 GMT -5
I was going to start a thread titled "MT gone" as an April Fools thing but thought that I'd rather keep my life/not be banned for life. so "slow learner" will have to do. besides, Lent isn't over until Sunday. Is that where you have to eat lentils for so many weeks? Kinda like muslims have to stay at Ramada Inns during Ramadan. I'll never understand how these things get started. world religion studies are interesting, aren't they? who'da thunk that that Budajhists would play hockey poorly? or that the Flying Frenchmen would insist on eating pasta? maybe I'm just Confuced.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 2, 2015 0:23:08 GMT -5
I think my playoff lineup would have Parenteau on the bench , and I was really hoping PAP would do well here. Pacioretty-Plekanec-DLR Galchenyuk-DD-Gallagher Prust-Eller-Weise Flynn-Mitchell-DSP Or we could go with Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gallagher Galchenyuk-DD-Weise Prust-Eller-DLR Following the loss to Tampa, Therrien tweaked the lines today .. Mac Pacioretty-Tomas Plekanec-Brendan Gallagher Alex Galchenyuk-David Desharnais-P.A. Parenteau Brandon Prust-Lars Eller-Dale Weise Jacob de la Rose-Torrey Mitchell/Brian Flynn-Devante Smith-Pelly I'd swap out Parenteau with DLR, but he is as close to my lineup as he has been all year I'd really like to see Lars with some offensive line mates. He's earned the opportunity; or at least the other centres have wasted theirs. I'd love to see the GEG line again - do we have anything to lose? And what if they find that magic they had. DD between Prust and Weise would be interesting - at least we'd balance out the size of the lines. Or even Pleks between Prust and Weise. This is all assuming that Chucky doesn't play centre which i'd really like to see.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 2, 2015 10:14:40 GMT -5
Following the loss to Tampa, Therrien tweaked the lines today .. Mac Pacioretty-Tomas Plekanec-Brendan Gallagher Alex Galchenyuk-David Desharnais-P.A. Parenteau Brandon Prust-Lars Eller-Dale Weise Jacob de la Rose-Torrey Mitchell/Brian Flynn-Devante Smith-Pelly I'd swap out Parenteau with DLR, but he is as close to my lineup as he has been all year I'd really like to see Lars with some offensive line mates. He's earned the opportunity; or at least the other centres have wasted theirs. I'd love to see the GEG line again - do we have anything to lose? And what if they find that magic they had. DD between Prust and Weise would be interesting - at least we'd balance out the size of the lines. Or even Pleks between Prust and Weise. This is all assuming that Chucky doesn't play centre which i'd really like to see. As long as Desharnais is wearing red-white-blue he will be given every opportunity on the PP and the top two lines. No stat is going to change that. I often wonder why we had such a short fuse with Ribeiro though, and others get way too much rope. Yes, he had a reputation, but he could play and really was never given anything to work with in Montreal. Ribeiro now has over 700 career points, that would put him 8th on the all time Habs list ... he had himself a good career.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 2, 2015 11:21:51 GMT -5
Ribeiro now has over 700 career points, that would put him 8th on the all time Habs list ... he had himself a good career. In addition to his contract cost, though, you'd have to hire a full time chaperone. Fortunately that wouldn't count against the CAP.
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