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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 9, 2015 21:17:40 GMT -5
Lars Eller with the winner ... Howard with two questionable ones and this one is over ... Detroit was playing for something tonight but they clinch with a point against Montreal and a Boston loss ... liked what Petry brought tonight ... an extremely steady veteran ... Price with a new standard for wins in season by a Habs goaltender ...
Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 21:25:01 GMT -5
Curious to see how the HNIC brass handle Price's record.
Actually, no. I don't want them to talk about it at all.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 9, 2015 21:26:59 GMT -5
It was game worn jersey night and some guy got careys
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Post by Skilly on Apr 9, 2015 21:28:02 GMT -5
If the playoffs started today .... Ottawa @ Montreal
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 9, 2015 21:35:12 GMT -5
If the playoffs started today .... Ottawa @ Montreal Hammond won't let in 2 softies like howard did tonight
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Post by blny on Apr 9, 2015 21:45:05 GMT -5
I'd be fine losing and getting Detroit in the first round, unless Tampa figures it out and plays to lose Saturday too.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 9, 2015 21:48:05 GMT -5
Last year Mtl was only Canadian team on playoffs. This year looks like Leafs will be only Canadian team not to be in playoffs. Wonder what the CBC crew will do with that?
Real disinterested play all the way around. Hard to believe Wings were fighting for a playoff spot.
PK was awful tonight. Markov not much better. Can't believe sprtsnet had them as stars and no nod to Dats. Feel much more comfortable with Petry out there than those two. They should be rested. Play Gilbert, Gonchar, or Weaver. Rest Pleks and BGal, get Manny and Bournival in there.
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Post by franko on Apr 9, 2015 21:50:16 GMT -5
Last year Mtl was only Canadian team on playoffs. This year looks like Leafs will be only Canadian team not to be in playoffs. Wonder what the CBC crew will do with that? hate to point out that Edmonton is still in Canada . . . but point taken.
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Post by Disp on Apr 9, 2015 22:05:35 GMT -5
Real disinterested play all the way around. Hard to believe Wings were fighting for a playoff spot. Didnt seem like they were very desperate. Overall I thought we were more aggressive. If the situation was reversed and the coaches switched, most would be calling for Babcock's head.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 9, 2015 23:23:12 GMT -5
You know that old saying about goaltending? Even as good as Babcock is, it's extremely difficult for even him to overcome poor goaltending. Kinda like Guy Boucher, except Guy had it much worse. Be kind to coaches who have to deal with lower than average goaltending.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 9, 2015 23:39:20 GMT -5
One of the announcers was saying earlier that many of the teams not contending are the ones with questionable goaltending ... I'd add Pittsburgh to that list ... Sens have been the best team in the league since Hammond went in nets ... I know NY was missing a few regulars and they already have the President's Trophy, but Ottawa rolled over them ... trying to figure out how our team will beat them if they match up ...
Cheers.
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Post by PTH on Apr 9, 2015 23:56:26 GMT -5
WE played a slightly sloppy game, with brutal turnovers by Gallagher and Markov costing us on all 3 goals.
That being said, we are very thin up front without Pacioretty, but we still found a way to get it done.
Best part: now that Carey has that record, maybe we can rest him against the Leafs.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 10, 2015 1:26:20 GMT -5
Last year Mtl was only Canadian team on playoffs. This year looks like Leafs will be only Canadian team not to be in playoffs. Wonder what the CBC crew will do with that? hate to point out that Edmonton is still in Canada . . . but point taken. Good point! My mistake. But is Edm ever a playoff contender? Then again, over the last 10 years in would be a pretty close race to the bottom between the Oil and the Leafs.
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Post by franko on Apr 10, 2015 6:14:05 GMT -5
hate to point out that Edmonton is still in Canada . . . but point taken. Good point! My mistake. But is Edm ever a playoff contender? Then again, over the last 10 years in would be a pretty close race to the bottom between the Oil and the Leafs. unfortunately there was that one time that the Oilers can say "we made it almost to the top -- we actually fought for the Cup[/i]. ugh.
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 10, 2015 7:20:06 GMT -5
Whoops, put this in the Game Day thread by accident. Repeating here, because that's the wild and crazy kind of guy I am.
I too thought some of the "big" names had rough nights. Markov, Subban (who was back into "trying too hard" mode if you ask me), Gallagher, Galchenyuk... even Plekanec looked disinterested at times.
On the other hand I thought our third and fourth lines were at times outstanding. Mitchell and Flynn had their best games in Montreal uniforms, as did DSP in my opinion (though that was a bad penalty to take). DSP was going to the net with or without the puck, and it was because of him, Desharnais, and the two Red Wing defensemen covering them, that Markov was able to score through a screen. Eller was good, as were Petry and Pateryn. Is it just me, or is Pateryn the master of the 6 foot-between-two-defenders-pass? We see come up the boards in his own end, get forced into the "trap" with one guy stopping him at the blueline and another one closing from an angle, and instead of trying to hammer it off the boards and out he just makes these nice little touch passes between the two to spring somebody out of the zone. Very underrated but calm play. These are all the guys we're going to need come playoff time, so yeah, it's a good sign that they are ramping up. The team has also scored three or more goals in 5 of the last 6 games played, also a good sign.
I don't know what to do about tomorrow's game. On the one hand, resting Price wouldn't be a bad thing, you don't want him to get hurt, and it is the Leafs. If you can't trust your backup goalie to get you a point against the Leafs then why bother having one? Might as well dress seven defensemen. But on the other hand, getting home ice advantage against Tampa in the second round (which is how things could very easily play out) could be huge. Yes, they've owned us, and it might not matter at all, but on the other hand our powerplayer is much, much better at home (now up to 8th in the league) and Tampa is a very mediocre road team. An extra powerplay goal in a 7th game could make all the difference. In which case it might be a good idea to go full-out for the win and secure home ice advantage. Do you play the long game, looking ahead to a potential second round matchup? Or do you play the short game and say that nothing is guaranteed in the first round, let's make sure we get there healthy and rested?
Tough call.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 10, 2015 8:18:54 GMT -5
I think you have to go for the win against Toronto and lock up 1st place. You can't really play for 1 point so you either decide to go for the win with Price or take a chance with Toker. Price had 3 days between the FLA and DET games and he would have another 2-3 days after Saturday depending on the playoff schedule.
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Post by blny on Apr 10, 2015 8:26:06 GMT -5
Whatever needs to be done to avoid Ottawa, do that lol.
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Post by franko on Apr 10, 2015 8:35:35 GMT -5
Whatever needs to be done to avoid Ottawa, do that lol. that would be playing Toker, resting Markov, playing Gonchar, Gilbert, and Weaver so they have some legs just in case of injury, and playing for 0 points. that's if Ottawa beats Philly and Pitts only wins one game. Ottawa loses, Boston wins, Pitts gets 1 point out of 4 and the Sens are out. Ottawa gets a point in Philly and they're in.
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Post by blny on Apr 10, 2015 8:40:16 GMT -5
Whatever needs to be done to avoid Ottawa, do that lol. that would be playing Toker, resting Markov, playing Gonchar, Gilbert, and Weaver so they have some legs just in case of injury, and playing for 0 points. that's if Ottawa beats Philly and Pitts only wins one game. Ottawa loses, Boston wins, Pitts gets 1 point out of 4 and the Sens are out. Ottawa gets a point in Philly and they're in. Clear as mud. We'll have a slightly clearer picture after tonight, but I suspect it will come down to the Tampa Boston game tomorrow night. Too bad that isn't an afternoon game on NBC or something.
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Post by franko on Apr 10, 2015 8:46:57 GMT -5
that would be playing Toker, resting Markov, playing Gonchar, Gilbert, and Weaver so they have some legs just in case of injury, and playing for 0 points. that's if Ottawa beats Philly and Pitts only wins one game. Ottawa loses, Boston wins, Pitts gets 1 point out of 4 and the Sens are out. Ottawa gets a point in Philly and they're in. Clear as mud. We'll have a slightly clearer picture after tonight, but I suspect it will come down to the Tampa Boston game tomorrow night. Too bad that isn't an afternoon game on NBC or something. Sens get a point against Philly in the afternoon and they're in. Boston will have nothing to play for unless NYI beats Pitts tonight in regulation . . . then they have to hope that Barfalo beats the Pens in regulation too. gotta hand it to Ottawa -- I thought they'dve crashed and burned by now.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 10, 2015 10:54:26 GMT -5
Ye guys of little faith. Ottawa has blown their wad. They're not looking to win the Cup. To them, just getting into the playoffs has made their year. It's been produced by a developing goalie sprouting angel wings and being shod with several extra pairs of horseshoes. Perfect example last night. He slips, all by himself in front of his net while the puck goes to a Ranger to his right. On his back or side, without a clear view of what's happening, he's just floundering and kicking his legs in desperation and the Ranger shoots it right into his pad. Great save according to the announcers, but really, he couldn't even see what was happening. I'd love to play Ottawa. We owe them big time and I think the Hockey gods will tire of this story after Saturday.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 10, 2015 11:07:01 GMT -5
I'd love to play Ottawa. We owe them big time. This. I think I hate the Sens right now more than I hate the Bruins.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 10, 2015 12:04:19 GMT -5
I'd love to play Ottawa. We owe them big time. This. I think I hate the Sens right now more than I hate the Bruins. Try living in Ottawa BH... It's brutal. The only thing worse than a happy Sens fan is a happy Leaf fan. You don't hear a peep from them when their team sucks, but they start crowing when their team wins. My neighbour thought the hit Gryba put on Eller was fantastic and that the Habs were a bunch of girls. He was crying like a b*tch when Orpik took out Gryba in the next round.
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Post by franko on Apr 10, 2015 12:13:36 GMT -5
This. I think I hate the Sens right now more than I hate the Bruins. Try living in Ottawa BH... It's brutal. The only thing worse than a happy Sens fan is a happy Leaf fan. well put. Ye guys of little faith. Ottawa has blown their wad. They're not looking to win the Cup. To them, just getting into the playoffs has made their year. nope. they're looking ahead to the playoffs . . . they have the Hamburglar, the man who should win the Calder, the man who should win the Norris, the man who should win the Jack Adams . . . and there is no reason that they shouldn't go far in the playoffs this year or in years to come with this amazing team. as Willie says, ya gotta be here. you mean that Hasekian save? it's now just second nature. watch out -- they just shut out the best team in the league and they're going places. well I hope so anyway. yup . . . I'm tired of it.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 10, 2015 12:51:32 GMT -5
Try living in Ottawa BH... It's brutal. The only thing worse than a happy Sens fan is a happy Leaf fan. well put. Ye guys of little faith. Ottawa has blown their wad. They're not looking to win the Cup. To them, just getting into the playoffs has made their year. nope. they're looking ahead to the playoffs . . . they have the Hamburglar, the man who should win the Calder, the man who should win the Norris, the man who should win the Jack Adams . . . and there is no reason that they shouldn't go far in the playoffs this year or in years to come with this amazing team. as Willie says, ya gotta be here. you mean that Hasekian save? it's now just second nature. watch out -- they just shut out the best team in the league and they're going places. well I hope so anyway. yup . . . I'm tired of it. Nothing would be sweeter than the Habs knocking them out, but they have so much momentum going for them right now. As Franko said, their kids are playing really well and Hammond has horseshoes up his butt. Also their GM is fighting cancer (stage 4) and that also has to be motivation for them.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 10, 2015 13:08:24 GMT -5
Franko, that's how it is in the immediate vicinity of an 'event'. Step back, though, 5,000 km in my case, and you get a different, objective perspective. They have a minor league goalie, one defense pairing and aren't strong enough down the middle. (Not that we're strong down the middle). We have a goalie, though, who's shine is not coming off. Makes all the difference.
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Post by franko on Apr 10, 2015 13:18:13 GMT -5
for sure, 17.
nothing would make me happier than a 4-and-out. but Hammond is eerily reminiscent of Halak a few years back.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 10, 2015 13:22:27 GMT -5
Franko, that's how it is in the immediate vicinity of an 'event'. Step back, though, 5,000 km in my case, and you get a different, objective perspective. They have a minor league goalie, one defense pairing and aren't strong enough down the middle. (Not that we're strong down the middle). We have a goalie, though, who's shine is not coming off. Makes all the difference. They have all sorts of guys scoring, Turris, MacArthur, Hoffman and Stone, a rookie, has 24 goals, he'd be 2nd or 3rd on our team and they have gotten nothing from Bobby Ryan lately. On defense, they have a defenseman who can carry the puck out of the zone better than anyone we have and they have much more toughness than we do on D, and they have a goalie who is the luckiest guy around (next year will be a different story though, he's not a thoroughbred imo). They're not winning the cup but they could take us out imo.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 10, 2015 15:46:41 GMT -5
I like Stone a lot. Heavy hands (he wins puck battles) and a terrific release. He's reminiscent of Brett Hull in that way. He finds space and lets it go quickly. His skating looks sluggish, but I don't think its as bad as it looks. No speedster, but adequate. He'd be a guy I'd key on if we play Ottawa. Just like against Tampa, I think you need someone to key on Johnson. You can't ignore Stamkos, but I'd be more worried about Johnson myself. Control Johnson and you control Palat and Kucherov.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 10, 2015 17:06:55 GMT -5
for sure, 17. nothing would make me happier than a 4-and-out. but Hammond is eerily reminiscent of Halak a few years back. Steve Penney, man ... I remember Penney making quite a few good saves, but I also remember a lot of pucks simply hitting him ... he was a good goaltender but he had some luck and this is where I see Hammond ... he is 19-1-2 with the Senators and they play very well in front of him ... don't get me wrong, my expectations haven't waned for this team, but as the season when on those expectations got a bit harder when the conference started to sort itself out ... Tampa and the Rangers were enough, but Washington and Ottawa have upped their games as well ... the Red Wings are playing well but Jimmy Howard looked like M-A Fleury last night ... the PP has been clicking of late and it would be nice to see it continue, more so with Pacioretty on the sidelines ... having said that, I don't know who we'll be facing but I suspect Therrien doesn't care ... he's starting Price because he wants the divisional championship ... I can see his point ... Cheers.
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