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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 10:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by jerry_dog on Jul 24, 2015 10:46:10 GMT -5
I like it!
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Post by habernac on Jul 24, 2015 10:46:11 GMT -5
low risk signing. The guy can score, we need that, hope he gets his head together.
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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 10:49:22 GMT -5
We posted at the same time lol. It's a low risk, high reward, deal. Berg's MO. Alex will be as motivated to perform as he's ever been. That may not say much, but he's got a lot to prove. We're all waiting on $, but I'm expecting something fairly low. If they signed him for in the area of $1 million, they can bury 950k of it in the minors and remove it from the cap. That would be my hope. He's still a good skater with size and a shot. If he's a room cancer, he won't last long.
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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 10:49:59 GMT -5
... looks like it's $1.1 million.
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Post by jkr on Jul 24, 2015 10:51:22 GMT -5
UGH! Even Kostitsysn would have been better.
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Post by Polarice on Jul 24, 2015 10:56:16 GMT -5
Can't loose at 1.1 million......good signing!!
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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 10:56:47 GMT -5
UGH! Even Kostitsysn would have been better. I look at it this way. The Leafs signed Parenteau for one year and $1.5 million. We signed a player with better #s over their careers for less. If Alex has a year like last year, you walk away. If he can revert to even the numbers he put up in his first two years in Carolina, it's a win. We got younger, and bigger too. Semin is every bit as shifty in a shootout role.
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Post by Skilly on Jul 24, 2015 10:58:14 GMT -5
We posted at the same time lol. It's a low risk, high reward, deal. Berg's MO. Alex will be as motivated to perform as he's ever been. That may not say much, but he's got a lot to prove. We're all waiting on $, but I'm expecting something fairly low. If they signed him for in the area of $1 million, they can bury 950k of it in the minors and remove it from the cap. That would be my hope. He's still a good skater with size and a shot. If he's a room cancer, he won't last long. That's the genius of this signing ... having only $150,000 counting on the cap (prorated too, I think, to the time of demotion, so even less) if it doesn't work out. I am not fussy on Semin, but at least Bergevin sees the same holes that I'm seeing. And this shows a willingness to address them with someone other than grunts. It also gives Therrien a new whipping boy to take the flack off the others. One thing though. Where does Semin fit? If he is going to play on the top two lines, then we now have Kassian on the third line. DLR/ELLER/KASSIAN ??
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 24, 2015 11:00:03 GMT -5
Wow, didn't see that one coming.
Not sure how I feel about it. Sure, he could be great... but he can drive you nuts too... I'm not sure the risk is "low" as locker room cancers can have an affect not seen on the ice. No Prust to slap him around either...
If nothing else it should keep the muck-rackers happy!
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 24, 2015 11:00:26 GMT -5
We struggle with goals and on the PP. Semin is a good shot and Kassian is a big body with decent hands.
This cannot hurt.
Low risk, potential big reward move. He is an upgrade on PAP.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 24, 2015 11:02:13 GMT -5
Wow, didn't see that one coming. Not sure how I feel about it. Sure, he could be great... but he can drive you nuts too... I'm not sure the risk is "low" as locker room cancers can have an affect not seen on the ice. No Prust to slap him around either... If nothing else it should keep the muck-rackers happy! I have no idea if he has the reputation or history of being bad in the room; however, this is where Markov can earn his letter if this ever does emerge.
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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 11:03:00 GMT -5
We posted at the same time lol. It's a low risk, high reward, deal. Berg's MO. Alex will be as motivated to perform as he's ever been. That may not say much, but he's got a lot to prove. We're all waiting on $, but I'm expecting something fairly low. If they signed him for in the area of $1 million, they can bury 950k of it in the minors and remove it from the cap. That would be my hope. He's still a good skater with size and a shot. If he's a room cancer, he won't last long. That's the genius of this signing ... having only $150,000 counting on the cap (prorated too, I think, to the time of demotion, so even less) if it doesn't work out. I am not fussy on Semin, but at least Bergevin sees the same holes that I'm seeing. And this shows a willingness to address them with someone other than grunts. It also gives Therrien a new whipping boy to take the flack off the others. One thing though. Where does Semin fit? If he is going to play on the top two lines, then we now have Kassian on the third line. DLR/ELLER/KASSIAN ?? Good question. Maybe he's setting the tables for a Galch-Semin pairing? When Max is back healthy ... Pacioretty-DD-Gallagher Plekanec-Galchenyuk-Semin (with Tomas taking draws and insulating) DLR-Eller-Kassian Weise-Mitchell-DSP
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Post by Polarice on Jul 24, 2015 11:03:20 GMT -5
We struggle with goals and on the PP. Semin is a good shot and Kassian is a big body with decent hands. This cannot hurt. Low risk, potential big reward move. He is an upgrade on PAP. I was just gonna write something similar. If anything he gives us more options on the PP.
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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 11:04:20 GMT -5
Wow, didn't see that one coming. Not sure how I feel about it. Sure, he could be great... but he can drive you nuts too... I'm not sure the risk is "low" as locker room cancers can have an affect not seen on the ice. No Prust to slap him around either... If nothing else it should keep the muck-rackers happy! I have no idea if he has the reputation or history of being bad in the room; however, this is where Markov can earn his letter if this ever does emerge. As I see it, if he comes into camp and goes all Polish Prince he'll be demoted so fast his head will spin.
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Post by Skilly on Jul 24, 2015 11:08:35 GMT -5
That's the genius of this signing ... having only $150,000 counting on the cap (prorated too, I think, to the time of demotion, so even less) if it doesn't work out. I am not fussy on Semin, but at least Bergevin sees the same holes that I'm seeing. And this shows a willingness to address them with someone other than grunts. It also gives Therrien a new whipping boy to take the flack off the others. One thing though. Where does Semin fit? If he is going to play on the top two lines, then we now have Kassian on the third line. DLR/ELLER/KASSIAN ?? Good question. Maybe he's setting the tables for a Galch-Semin pairing? When Max is back healthy ... Pacioretty-DD-Gallagher Plekanec-Galchenyuk-Semin (with Tomas taking draws and insulating) DLR-Eller-Kassian Weise-Mitchell-DSP Im thinking this will be better Pacioretty-DD-Semin - Let's face it, DD is not getting moved to the third line, and IMO, the Semin signing cements it Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gallagher - The roomies love playing together DLR-Eller-Kassian - I don't think Kassian gets 18 goals if this comes to fruition, I also am not sure of his defensive work ethic. If its good, this got the makings of a great third line Weise-Mitchell-DSP Now, we have to find a fit in that line-up for Sherbak.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 11:31:22 GMT -5
We definitely need goals, and aside from Pacioretty we don't have any natural goal scorers. He's a former 40-goal achiever (though back in 09-10), so we know he has the skill set.
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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 11:40:40 GMT -5
Good question. Maybe he's setting the tables for a Galch-Semin pairing? When Max is back healthy ... Pacioretty-DD-Gallagher Plekanec-Galchenyuk-Semin (with Tomas taking draws and insulating) DLR-Eller-Kassian Weise-Mitchell-DSP Im thinking this will be better Pacioretty-DD-Semin - Let's face it, DD is not getting moved to the third line, and IMO, the Semin signing cements it Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gallagher - The roomies love playing together DLR-Eller-Kassian - I don't think Kassian gets 18 goals if this comes to fruition, I also am not sure of his defensive work ethic. If its good, this got the makings of a great third line Weise-Mitchell-DSP Now, we have to find a fit in that line-up for Sherbak. Could very well work out that way. It's the other way I saw it. I do expect Plekanec to play center. Putting Galchenyuk there was more wishful thinking with a dose of logic lol. I agree that Kassian doesn't score 18 on the third line, but it should be a good bang and crash line that plays hard minutes and has good possession stats. The bottom six looks good imo. There's speed and beef.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 24, 2015 11:47:58 GMT -5
So maybe the report of Chucky's contract negotiations being put on hold earlier this week was not all doom and gloom, as the Berg may have been busy working on this deal. He now knows what cap space he has left with one roster spot (Chucky's) to fill, so I do hope this also means that the other Alex can get signed pdq now.
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Post by Disp on Jul 24, 2015 11:51:26 GMT -5
This is a great deal. No brainer. If he causes problems, dump him.
Just don't get suckered into a long term extension if he lights it up this year.
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Post by frozone on Jul 24, 2015 11:52:11 GMT -5
I like the signing, but it's hard to predict how the Semin story will turn out in Montreal. We Hab fans can be a fickle bunch at the best of times, so part of me thinks things will go sour.
Then again, we also adored Kovalev. Many of us (not me, mind you) even wanted Kovalev to replace Koivu as captain.
As long as Semin flashes enough skill here and there to keep us all hypnotized, I think things will work out just fine.
Then again, who cares what we fans think. The bottom line is: I'm sure Max Pacioretty, Carey Price, Subban, Plekanec etc are happy to hear that help is on the way.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 24, 2015 11:56:06 GMT -5
Not all that thrilled. Good signing on paper, but it seems like another underachieving player like Kassian. Reputation of being talented but lazy and we don't need that. Certainly doesn't feel like one of the guys "who get you through" as Berg likes to say. Guys like Semin are never there when you need them.
I was hoping to keep a forward spot open for the likes of Hudon, Carr, or even Scherbak but that's not going to happen now. Bergevin seems to be bulking up on established talent for a run this year, so we'll see.
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 24, 2015 12:00:59 GMT -5
This is a great deal. No brainer. If he causes problems, dump him. Just don't get suckered into a long term extension if he lights it up this year. I know we are putting the cart waaaaay before the horse here, but that's something I was thinking about too. What happens if he lights it up? Say he gets 80 points next year; what do you do? If we win the Cup then Bergevin can do whatever he wants. If he wants to sign Semin to an eight year extension, and he flops miserably, well who cares? He won the Cup. But what happens if we DON'T win the Cup and Semin gets 80 points? Say we lose in Game 7 of the Finals, in triple overtime, with Semin scoring 3 goals for the losing side? What do you do then? Can't just let him go, right? But do you give him the big contract, which he will undoubtedly want? Aaah, but that's for next year to worry about I suppose. I want Pacioretty and Kassian with Desharnais. The proverbially two big bodies and the mighty-mite. That's when Desharnais looked the best, in my opinion, centering Max and Erik Cole. So I want to see that tried. After that it's just a question of mix-and-match I suppose. I'd like to see Eller get an offensive linemate, so who does he get? Is it Semin? Gallagher and Galchenyuk again? Pacioretty - Desharnais - Kassian De la Rose - Plekanec - Semin Galchenyuk - Eller - Gallagher Weise - Mitchell - DSP
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 24, 2015 12:04:13 GMT -5
We struggle with goals and on the PP. Semin is a good shot and Kassian is a big body with decent hands. This cannot hurt. Low risk, potential big reward move. He is an upgrade on PAP. The best of what's left over in a season thin on UFAs ... odd, but his agent originally said that there were several clubs very interested in his client, but later he said that they'd be happy with a one-year deal ... where did all of these courting clubs go to ... will be interesting to see if he adjusts to the system in Montreal ... good luck to him ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Jul 24, 2015 12:09:46 GMT -5
I'm not going to worry about a year from now. My hope is that he can get back to the 13-14 season. If he can do that, we'll see a lot of this. Notice the shot. Strong wrister from anywhere. Good one timer on the PP - hint hint. Good skater. Not blazing, but gets up the ice well and can manage a break away. If he puts up 40-50 points, it's a clear win. Despite our offensive woes, I think he's significantly better insulated in Montreal. He won't be THE guy. I think that's to his advantage.
His buyout pays him $2.33 million a year until June 2021. Any future contract negotiations, like this one, will be done with that buyout # in mind imo. Factor in his age (31), and I don't see him landing another $7 million a year contract regardless of how much success he has.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 24, 2015 12:19:46 GMT -5
TSN690 has a PC going on right now ref Semin ... said he was talking with Markov before he made his decision ... not a lot of emotion coming out of Semin ... it sounds like he doesn't know how to answer a few of questions ... "what happened to you last year in Carolina" ... "I don't know (pause) I like being here ... that's it" ... short and quite boring interview ... Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 12:34:48 GMT -5
TSN690 has a PC going on right now ref Semin ... said he was talking with Markov before he made his decision ... not a lot of emotion coming out of Semin ... it sounds like he doesn't know how to answer a few of questions ... "what happened to you last year in Carolina" ... "I don't know (pause) I like being here ... that's it" ... short and quite boring interview ... Cheers. Sounded exactly like Markov imo. I don't want a great interview, I want him to score 20-25 goals and be even on the plus minus sheet and be dangerous on the wall on the power play. A million for a 20 goal scorer is an absolute bargain, for a 25+ goal scorer is highway robbery. He's younger and better than both Briere and PAP, nothing to lose here, the press box is always an option. But I believe that he won't want to be the lone Russian not dressing, and we know Emelin, Markov and Chucky aren't floaters.
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Post by Lord Bebop on Jul 24, 2015 12:39:36 GMT -5
I like the signing, but it's hard to predict how the Semin story will turn out in Montreal. We Hab fans can be a fickle bunch at the best of times, so part of me thinks things will go sour. Then again, we also adored Kovalev. Many of us (not me, mind you) even wanted Kovalev to replace Koivu as captain. As long as Semin flashes enough skill here and there to keep us all hypnotized, I think things will work out just fine. Then again, who cares what we fans think. The bottom line is: I'm sure Max Pacioretty, Carey Price, Subban, Plekanec etc are happy to hear that help is on the way. First thought was Kovalev 2.0.... Said to have the best slap shot in league. I feel like we got a ton of guys on our roster ATM.... Trade or waivers coming I guess.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 24, 2015 12:45:09 GMT -5
TSN690 has a PC going on right now ref Semin ... said he was talking with Markov before he made his decision ... not a lot of emotion coming out of Semin ... it sounds like he doesn't know how to answer a few of questions ... "what happened to you last year in Carolina" ... "I don't know (pause) I like being here ... that's it" ... short and quite boring interview ... Cheers. Sounded exactly like Markov imo. I don't want a great interview, I want him to score 20-25 goals and be even on the plus minus sheet and be dangerous on the wall on the power play. A million for a 20 goal scorer is an absolute bargain, for a 25+ goal scorer is highway robbery. He's younger and better than both Briere and PAP, nothing to lose here, the press box is always an option. But I believe that he won't want to be the lone Russian not dressing, and we know Emelin, Markov and Chucky aren't floaters. Man, if he scores 25 goals ... he'll have enough pressure keeping the fans happy just on his prior accomplishments, so I really hope the fan base doesn't put too many expectations on Semin ... you're right about sounding like Markov ... like, emotionless ... Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 12:45:31 GMT -5
TSN690 has a PC going on right now ref Semin ... said he was talking with Markov before he made his decision ... not a lot of emotion coming out of Semin ... it sounds like he doesn't know how to answer a few of questions ... "what happened to you last year in Carolina" ... "I don't know (pause) I like being here ... that's it" ... short and quite boring interview ... Cheers. I can't imagine how some people have the patience and poise to deal with questions regarding an off year. "What happened last year?" Sometimes things go poorly and you just don't know. A few interesting things: he didn't even generate 100 shots on goal last season.
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