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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 13, 2015 22:20:45 GMT -5
Please see TVA Sports ... he's apparently waiting to see if New Jersey wants him back ... Cheers.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 14, 2015 0:22:19 GMT -5
Meh, not interested. Yesterday's man. His style of hockey was effective in another era and boring in any era. Not sure Id want anyone who has been involved with the Devils the last few years. Hope TO lands him. Leafs always seem to get folks who have won cups with other teams and then blow their horn only to find out the person's hey day has come and gone: Fletcher, Burke, Dryden, Wilson, Carlyle, Shanahan. And now Lamourello, Babcock and maybe Lemaire.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 14, 2015 7:08:55 GMT -5
Meh, not interested. Yesterday's man. His style of hockey was effective in another era and boring in any era. Not sure Id want anyone who has been involved with the Devils the last few years. Hope TO lands him. Leafs always seem to get folks who have won cups with other teams and then blow their horn only to find out the person's hey day has come and gone: Fletcher, Burke, Dryden, Wilson, Carlyle, Shanahan. And now Lamourello, Babcock and maybe Lemaire. Well, if he gets along with Lamourello then Toronto would be a no-brainer for him ... Cheers.
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Post by jerry_dog on Aug 14, 2015 9:12:02 GMT -5
Well, if he gets along with Lamourello then Toronto would be a no-brainer for him ... Cheers. ... not just Lou ... Coco was also picked by Mike Babcock to run the penalty kill and other assignments on the men's 2010 Olympic hockey team. if I was Berg ... I would at least have a chat with him.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 14, 2015 9:13:34 GMT -5
How many times did I watch the Habs against Lemaire-led Devils teams realizing I would never get that time back.
No thanks.
We need someone with a philosophy that will push MT to be a lot less risk adverse, not head in the opposite direction.
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Post by jerry_dog on Aug 14, 2015 9:29:00 GMT -5
... just hired by Leafs. announced a few minutes ago.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 14, 2015 9:46:27 GMT -5
... just hired by Leafs. announced a few minutes ago. Didn't know about the Mike Babcock connection, but it certainly makes sense ... might have to put some of my old Jacques Lemaire cards in the spokes of my bike now ... guess I'll have to inflate the tires, too ... Lemaire signs with Toronto ... Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Aug 14, 2015 9:53:49 GMT -5
The Leafs are cornering the market on senior citizens. Lemaire will be 70 in September. I guess when they are on the road they can go to the movies for half price and catch the early bird special in those Florida restaurants.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 14, 2015 9:56:40 GMT -5
Well if Leafs can find a generational goalie like Brodeur they'll be in business.
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Post by jkr on Aug 14, 2015 10:19:07 GMT -5
Well if Leafs can find a generational goalie like Brodeur they'll be in business. Why not Brodeur? He'll fit with all the other NJ hires.
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Post by blny on Aug 14, 2015 10:24:45 GMT -5
Toronto Devils. Should change the unis to red, green, and white. Even if these guys won cups in the last generation of style of play it's still more recent than the Leafs. Instead of being nearly 50 years behind the times they're only 10-15.
If they hire David Conte ...
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Post by Gogie on Aug 14, 2015 10:36:50 GMT -5
Glad the Habs passed on Lemaire. As far as I'm concerned, Lemaire was responsible for the premature end to Guy Lafleur's career with the Habs. When he took over the reins as coach he instituted a much more defensive-oriented style of play and effectively stifled Lafluer. Lemaire was a great player for the Habs but I have no desire to see him coaching or assisting in any context. We score few enough goals as it is.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 14, 2015 11:25:54 GMT -5
Glad the Habs passed on Lemaire. As far as I'm concerned, Lemaire was responsible for the premature end to Guy Lafleur's career with the Habs. When he took over the reins as coach he instituted a much more defensive-oriented style of play and effectively stifled Lafluer. Lemaire was a great player for the Habs but I have no desire to see him coaching or assisting in any context. We score few enough goals as it is. It was too bad about Guy Lafleur ... looking over his career stats, he had 30G and 40A in his 2nd-last year with the Habs ... I mean, he was still the club's leading point-getter ... he only played 19 games in his last year and something must have sucked the life out of him ... I used to admire Jacques Lemaire when I was a kid ... we'd be playing road hockey and I usually thought of Coco when I wound up for a slapshot ... but there was a rift between them, if I remember right ... as for the Toronto Devils (thanks blny), I think they'll continue to be a thorne in our side ... having Lemaire in Montreal might have caused Michel Therrien to look over his shoulder from time to time ... don't need that regardless who the coach is ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 14, 2015 11:54:39 GMT -5
Concerning Lafleur….I don't think he was ever the same after Pat Boutette put him out of the playoffs with a dirty knee hit in Round 1 of the 1980 playoffs…which was a big reason we lost to the North Stars in Round 2.
Lafleur's game was built around speed and quick moves--making something out of nothing. I'd like to hear what he has to say about it….but that's what I think happened to his overall game. If he appeared "selfish" at the end of his time in Montreal, it was likely due to the fact that he was trying to do too much….i.e. regain what was lost. And that didn't sit well with Lemaire, no doubt, in terms of team play.
No doubt difficult to accept that you've slowed down, etc. after being the cream of the NHL for so many years….winning individual trophies and Cups.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Aug 14, 2015 12:00:08 GMT -5
Too many hens in the hen house.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 14, 2015 12:00:17 GMT -5
Concerning Lafleur….I don't think he was ever the same after Pat Boutette put him out of the playoffs with a dirty knee hit in Round 1 of the 1980 playoffs…which was a big reason we lost to the North Stars in Round 2. Lafleur's game was built around speed and quick moves--making something out of nothing. I'd like to hear what he has to say about it….but that's what I think happened to his overall game. If he appeared "selfish" at the end of his time in Montreal, it was likely due to the fact that he was trying to do too much….i.e. regain what was lost. And that didn't sit well with Lemaire, no doubt, in terms of team play. No doubt difficult to accept that you've slowed down, etc. after being the cream of the NHL for so many years….winning individual trophies and Cups. I remember Dick Irvin Jr saying that, they couldn't practice the PP the way Scotty Bowman wanted it because Lafleur played on instinct and he'd always find a way to "foul it up" ... as an aside, I sometimes thought that Lafleur could have been part of that '86 Cup winner, but alas ... Cheers.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 14, 2015 17:30:31 GMT -5
Too many hens in the hen house. Yes, ego and pride in good supply. Heads could butt. This cycle of "big name" acquisitions started with Lieweke headhunting Shanahan. Which led to Babcock, then Lamoriello, now Lemaire. I wonder how the younger guys in Leafs' management see this trend... And maybe the plan is to acquire a supposed "all-star" management team so that the fan/media pressure will be somewhat mitigated for the first few years of the supposed rebuild....i.e. the fans and media might think, "If we can't trust THESE guys, who CAN we trust?" Could be a bad idea in the long (or shorter than planned on) run....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 18:04:31 GMT -5
Makes sense for Toronto. They need to step up their defensive game big time and give their goaltenders a break.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 14, 2015 23:46:41 GMT -5
Too many hens in the hen house. Yes, ego and pride in good supply. Heads could butt. This cycle of "big name" acquisitions started with Lieweke headhunting Shanahan. Which led to Babcock, then Lamoriello, now Lemaire. I wonder how the younger guys in Leafs' management see this trend... And maybe the plan is to acquire a supposed "all-star" management team so that the fan/media pressure will be somewhat mitigated for the first few years of the supposed rebuild....i.e. the fans and media might think, "If we can't trust THESE guys, who CAN we trust?" Could be a bad idea in the long (or shorter than planned on) run.... It's really not all that complicated. Leafs have all sorts of money and there is no cap for management positions. So go hire as many big name, expensive management folks as you can and let the dumb fan base think that the cup is coming soon. Given the hype over these has-been hirings just be thankful Leafs didn't get McDavid. Could you imagine the steady diet of leaf platitudes? The Oilers hype is already way over the top for a kid who is not likely to have an impact for a number of years. If he was a Leaf even the Blue Jays would be have their current 15 minutes as the lead story relegated to a second story after the scoop of McDavid trying a new curve on his stick. On the other hand these management stories do show how far the Leafs are from being a contender.
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Post by franko on Aug 15, 2015 7:03:04 GMT -5
Makes sense for Toronto. They need to step up their defensive game big time and give their goaltenders a break. I thought Lemaire was a forward. are they going to try him at a new position? I thought that was MT's shtick.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 15, 2015 9:54:28 GMT -5
On the other hand these management stories do show how far the Leafs are from being a contender. Yep…and if we thought the Leafs were over-hyped before…we'll now be bombarded with the steady media message to the fans: Close your eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, "There's no president like Shanny. There's no coach like Babs. There's no GM like Lou…."At least for the first couple of years…. That same media soured on Burke after they pressured for, heralded, and lauded his hiring. Even Cherry will be preaching "patience"…
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 15, 2015 11:53:24 GMT -5
On the other hand these management stories do show how far the Leafs are from being a contender. Yep…and if we thought the Leafs were over-hyped before…we'll now be bombarded with the steady media message to the fans: Close your eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, "There's no president like Shanny. There's no coach like Babs. There's no GM like Lou…."At least for the first couple of years…. That same media soured on Burke after they pressured for, heralded, and lauded his hiring. Even Cherry will be preaching "patience"… As i recall, at some point Dorothy peeked behind the curtain and saw the Wizard was a fake. Let's hope the curtain remains drawn for another 50 years!
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Post by seventeen on Aug 15, 2015 23:12:11 GMT -5
It will be interesting to follow the inevitable conflict between Dubas and Hunter on one side and Lou and Lemaire on the other. Where will Babcock fall in that mush?
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