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Post by jkr on Nov 7, 2015 11:17:32 GMT -5
My main problem with EOTP is they won't let things go. For instance they still talk about Sekac and Parenteau has players that could have helped the Habs offensively. These are guys that didn't score with the Habs and once they leave the Therrien sphere are still not scoring.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 7, 2015 15:14:43 GMT -5
Now there are tweets from Eric Engels quoting Patches as saying Semin has s great attitude, not moping or pouting and working hard. Sheesh. Talk about conflicting reports. Patches also says for him personally, he's been the best coach he's ever had. Accountability galore and you get called out on everything.
That's a double edged sword. For me that style won't work. If I have a crappy game, I'm my own worst critic. I don't need someone else piling on. With others, Therriens approach could be perfect. He should know that and choose when it's appropriate.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 7, 2015 16:10:37 GMT -5
Fun with tables! Player | CF% | CF% Rel | FF% | FF% Rel | Points | Brian Bickell | 54.93 | 4.06 | 54.05 | 4.86 | 0 | Alex Semin | 53.30 | 4.03 | 54.02 | 4.60 | 3 |
Is Joel Quenneville a bad coach? I want Semin to succeed as much as the next guy, and I thought it was a great, low-risk signing. The idea of Semin is exactly what this team needs. But so far the idea of Semin has far-outreached the reality of Semin. As I said above, at the end of the day you have to produce points, ESPECIALLY when you've been given plum offensive opportunities, offensive linemates, and power-play time. It's nice to play keep-away, but you have to score every once in a while too. This wasn't a knee jerk reaction on Therrien's part; he let it play out for 10 games before making a switch. I hope he goes back to it, or that Semin somehow forces his hand AND lives up to the idea of his name. But if he's going to clip along at a 1 point per 8 game pace then I'm not going to complain when a coach sits him down. Sure, but the point that needs highlighting is that we had a 60 pt second line Center .... Now that same guys pace has dipped to 30pts, and because of the hot start will likely end with 40pts (on current pace of course, cause if 10 games is enough to decide Semin is a dud, then 15 is plenty to statistically dissect). So, is it worth destroying the second line production, to play musical chairs with the second line? That third and fourth line production is the only reason this looks good ...
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Post by HABSINFL on Nov 7, 2015 17:25:15 GMT -5
You want to see more finish/puck luck from the Eller/Galchenyuk line, but the advanced stats still suggest that those guys are very strong in the possession game, controlling better than 50% of shot attempts at even strength. That's good to see and tells me that they just need to bury chances. I'll give the DD line credit for capitalizing on chances, but their defensive liabilities are plain as day. Despite starting 67% of his draws in the offensive zone, DD's on-ice Corsi was 38% (8 shot attempts vs 13 shot attempts allowed). Fleischmann and Weise were just as bad. The story of the game from a directional standpoint was the Pacioretty and Galchenyuk lines controlling play, the Desharnais line getting abused, and the Mitchell line playing even. I'd sure like to see Galchenyuk and Eller getting more than 11/12 minutes of ice. I'd also like to see Semin back in the lineup with Eller/Galch. What that line needs is more finish and I'd take my chances with Semin. Too much upside there to leave on the bench, but MT is a stubborn coach - once he forms an opinion of a player (good or bad) it's very hard to shake him off that. Love Condon. Getting the job done. A great opportunity for Price to get fully healthy, and should pay dividends later in the year. Totally agree with Bostonhabs MT is out to lunch with the Semin, Tinordi affairs. Very good post Boatonhabs on everything.
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Post by franko on Nov 7, 2015 17:55:05 GMT -5
Fun with tables! Player | CF% | CF% Rel | FF% | FF% Rel | Points | Brian Bickell | 54.93 | 4.06 | 54.05 | 4.86 | 0 | Alex Semin | 53.30 | 4.03 | 54.02 | 4.60 | 3 |
Is Joel Quenneville a bad coach? I want Semin to succeed as much as the next guy, and I thought it was a great, low-risk signing. The idea of Semin is exactly what this team needs. But so far the idea of Semin has far-outreached the reality of Semin. As I said above, at the end of the day you have to produce points, ESPECIALLY when you've been given plum offensive opportunities, offensive linemates, and power-play time. It's nice to play keep-away, but you have to score every once in a while too. This wasn't a knee jerk reaction on Therrien's part; he let it play out for 10 games before making a switch. I hope he goes back to it, or that Semin somehow forces his hand AND lives up to the idea of his name. But if he's going to clip along at a 1 point per 8 game pace then I'm not going to complain when a coach sits him down. Sure, but the point that needs highlighting is that we had a 60 pt second line Center .... Now that same guys pace has dipped to 30pts, and because of the hot start will likely end with 40pts (on current pace of course, cause if 10 games is enough to decide Semin is a dud, then 15 is plenty to statistically dissect). So, is it worth destroying the second line production, to play musical chairs with the second line? That third and fourth line production is the only reason this looks good ... Of course it is. It's MT and that's good enough for him.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 10, 2015 12:35:21 GMT -5
* For those that are wondering, Jarome Iginla is on pace for 38 goals. Is this what you're alluding to ... Cheers.
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