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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 20, 2016 10:33:46 GMT -5
Heard Darren Dreger say that yesterday on TSN690 ... Francois Gagnon was reacting to a rumour and, as such, he has lost credibility with me ... I'm not going to worry about Michel Therrien being fired ... it's out of my control ... Cheers. It's all Therrienatrics ... and it's resonating with some journalists ... there is now a difference between Francois Gagnon and Darren Dreger/Bob McKenzie, at least to me, anyway ... didn't mind hearing the boo birds out last night ... I think it was directed more at the team and just one player ... Cheers.
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Post by 24in93 on Jan 20, 2016 10:43:54 GMT -5
Gagnon has always been a hack. He was the one that had the 'Kovalev tape' that turned out to be nothing. I've never taken him seriously since that.
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Post by mikeg on Jan 20, 2016 10:47:32 GMT -5
... and it's resonating with some journalists ... there is now a difference between Francois Gagnon and Darren Dreger/Bob McKenzie, at least to me, anyway ... didn't mind hearing the boo birds out last night ... I think it was directed more at the team and just one player ... Cheers. Hasn't Gagnon always been a Habs hater though? As for the Boos, I did not watch the game, was it possible they were directed at Therrien? Has it ever happened where a coach was so reviled by the fanbase that he got the brunt of the boos? Even when the sky was falling for Chelsea this year the fans never turned on Mourhino, they recognized the lack of effort by their stars and booed AFTER Mourhino was fired, contrast that with MT where his players seem to be trying hard but are stuck behind a coach who can't adjust and I can only imagine the boos would be directed at him.
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Post by blny on Jan 20, 2016 10:48:15 GMT -5
Maybe off topic and 4 years too late, but in hindsight it feels like they really messed up by starting chucky with the pros. He would have been better off in the AHL, playing a year or two as a center. Then again with Lefebvre there who knows what sort of damage that could have done. Or maybe we are just overestimating this kid's value. Maybe he just is not the #1 center we thought we drafted. It does happen. Maybe in another market he would have been able to develop right... who knows. As an 18 year old, he'd have had to play for Montreal or go back to Sarnia. I don't think he's done anything to indicate he wasn't ready for the NHL from the start, or that he isn't ready for minutes/games/etc with our best scorers. His first year, breaks out and plays well with Gallagher and Prust. Bgally gets the roty nomination. Alex was one point behind him I think. The next year the best line he plays on is with Gallagher and Eller. Therrien breaks that line up. It's never seen together again. Last year and this, he's largely played with bottom six players and gotten bottom six minutes. He's still getting jerked around about center and wing. He scored 20 goals last year, out of position, with guys who aren't paid to score. He came to camp this year ready to go, in fantastic shape. If you saw the videos on the habs site from just before camp, he's pretty cut for a hockey player. There's zero baby fat. At the time of the somewhat surprising success of the short 2013 season, I was public that it might have been better for the team's long term future if they had tanked that short season (leaving the Gals in junior another year) and gotten another high lottery pick. Imagine had they been able to draft one of MacKinnon, Jones, Barkov or Drouin. That was the top four that year (in the order I would have picked where I Berg). A scenario where we have two young centers in Mac and Galch, or could have had the defensive 1,2 punch of Subban and Jones would have been amazing. That said, Galchenyuk has yet to do himself a disservice. In his 4th season, he's done nothing to indicate he doesn't belong and hasn't earned the chance to play with similarly skilled players. On top of that, you need a coach that knows how to work with young players and develop them to their full potential.
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Post by mikeg on Jan 20, 2016 10:57:57 GMT -5
Maybe off topic and 4 years too late, but in hindsight it feels like they really messed up by starting chucky with the pros. He would have been better off in the AHL, playing a year or two as a center. Then again with Lefebvre there who knows what sort of damage that could have done. Or maybe we are just overestimating this kid's value. Maybe he just is not the #1 center we thought we drafted. It does happen. Maybe in another market he would have been able to develop right... who knows. As an 18 year old, he'd have had to play for Montreal or go back to Sarnia. I don't think he's done anything to indicate he wasn't ready for the NHL from the start, or that he isn't ready for minutes/games/etc with our best scorers. His first year, breaks out and plays well with Gallagher and Prust. Bgally gets the roty nomination. Alex was one point behind him I think. The next year the best line he plays on is with Gallagher and Eller. Therrien breaks that line up. It's never seen together again. Last year and this, he's largely played with bottom six players and gotten bottom six minutes. He's still getting jerked around about center and wing. He scored 20 goals last year, out of position, with guys who aren't paid to score. He came to camp this year ready to go, in fantastic shape. If you saw the videos on the habs site from just before camp, he's pretty cut for a hockey player. There's zero baby fat. At the time of the somewhat surprising success of the short 2013 season, I was public that it might have been better for the team's long term future if they had tanked that short season (leaving the Gals in junior another year) and gotten another high lottery pick. Imagine had they been able to draft one of MacKinnon, Jones, Barkov or Drouin. That was the top four that year (in the order I would have picked where I Berg). A scenario where we have two young centers in Mac and Galch, or could have had the defensive 1,2 punch of Subban and Jones would have been amazing. That said, Galchenyuk has yet to do himself a disservice. In his 4th season, he's done nothing to indicate he doesn't belong and hasn't earned the chance to play with similarly skilled players. On top of that, you need a coach that knows how to work with young players and develop them to their full potential. I am not saying anything negative about his play as a pro, I was just thinking that for his growth (and also contract situation) him playing a year or 2 in juniors and the AHL may have been better for his long term development as #1 center and also maybe for his maturity (i.e. they teach him how to handle the media, he gets called up a few times to see what it's like etc). I have no doubt about his skill, but when you draft a kid to be your franchise center, sending him out to the wolves in this city with basically 1 season in the OHL under his belt feels more self serving to individual egos (MB/MT) then it is to the well being of the actual player. Again, hindsight is 20/20 here, but I just can't help but think how much better off he MAY have been had proper time been given to his development. Add the tank argument you made to the equation and all I want to do now is build a time machine and make some adjustments to the timeline.
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Post by blny on Jan 20, 2016 11:11:43 GMT -5
As an 18 year old, he'd have had to play for Montreal or go back to Sarnia. I don't think he's done anything to indicate he wasn't ready for the NHL from the start, or that he isn't ready for minutes/games/etc with our best scorers. His first year, breaks out and plays well with Gallagher and Prust. Bgally gets the roty nomination. Alex was one point behind him I think. The next year the best line he plays on is with Gallagher and Eller. Therrien breaks that line up. It's never seen together again. Last year and this, he's largely played with bottom six players and gotten bottom six minutes. He's still getting jerked around about center and wing. He scored 20 goals last year, out of position, with guys who aren't paid to score. He came to camp this year ready to go, in fantastic shape. If you saw the videos on the habs site from just before camp, he's pretty cut for a hockey player. There's zero baby fat. At the time of the somewhat surprising success of the short 2013 season, I was public that it might have been better for the team's long term future if they had tanked that short season (leaving the Gals in junior another year) and gotten another high lottery pick. Imagine had they been able to draft one of MacKinnon, Jones, Barkov or Drouin. That was the top four that year (in the order I would have picked where I Berg). A scenario where we have two young centers in Mac and Galch, or could have had the defensive 1,2 punch of Subban and Jones would have been amazing. That said, Galchenyuk has yet to do himself a disservice. In his 4th season, he's done nothing to indicate he doesn't belong and hasn't earned the chance to play with similarly skilled players. On top of that, you need a coach that knows how to work with young players and develop them to their full potential. I am not saying anything negative about his play as a pro, I was just thinking that for his growth (and also contract situation) him playing a year or 2 in juniors and the AHL may have been better for his long term development as #1 center and also maybe for his maturity (i.e. they teach him how to handle the media, he gets called up a few times to see what it's like etc). I have no doubt about his skill, but when you draft a kid to be your franchise center, sending him out to the wolves in this city with basically 1 season in the OHL under his belt feels more self serving to individual egos (MB/MT) then it is to the well being of the actual player. Again, hindsight is 20/20 here, but I just can't help but think how much better off he MAY have been had proper time been given to his development. Add the tank argument you made to the equation and all I want to do now is build a time machine and make some adjustments to the timeline. In the end, I believe the extra year in junior would have benefited the team more than the player.
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Post by mikeg on Jan 20, 2016 11:14:59 GMT -5
In the end, I believe the extra year in junior would have benefited the team more than the player. Agreed, that first year was fun and so full of hope.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 20, 2016 12:48:29 GMT -5
Gagnon has always been a hack. He was the one that had the 'Kovalev tape' that turned out to be nothing. I've never taken him seriously since that. Yeah, that and that silly darkest day crapola where they were even tracking the Habs flight from out west as if the SWAT squad would meet it on the Tarmac. Sensationalist buffoon. Likes the sound of his own voice. Dreger and Bobby Mac are infinitely more credible. They consider this a profession.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 20, 2016 12:54:56 GMT -5
Hasn't Gagnon always been a Habs hater though? As for the Boos, I did not watch the game, was it possible they were directed at Therrien? Has it ever happened where a coach was so reviled by the fanbase that he got the brunt of the boos? Even when the sky was falling for Chelsea this year the fans never turned on Mourhino, they recognized the lack of effort by their stars and booed AFTER Mourhino was fired, contrast that with MT where his players seem to be trying hard but are stuck behind a coach who can't adjust and I can only imagine the boos would be directed at him. First, welcome back, MikeG ... I noticed you were on a few days ago, but it's been quite a while before that ... secondly, I'm hoping the boos were directed at the entire team, not only the coach ... several members here have already pointed out some of the decisions he's made and those concerns have been echoed by the Montreal media of late ... however, the players have to hold themselves accountable, as well, and they simply can't dismiss the feedback from the fans ... if that feedback is manifested in booing then so be it ... they're going to have to convince the fans who left under "quiet resignation" last night that they're not wasting money on a ticket ... that, or start earning their pay ... and they've sucked at that for quite a while now, too ... Chelsea? ... I'm still following them but I can't explain how their fans react because I don't follow the Premier League as much as I follow the NHL ... I'll take your word for it, because I find politeness is almost used as a weapon by the English (they apply it so well) ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 20, 2016 12:57:21 GMT -5
Yeah, that and that silly darkest day crapola where they were even tracking the Habs flight from out west as if the SWAT squad would meet it on the Tarmac. Wasn't that when Jacques Demers broke into tears ... #whateverCheers.
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Post by mikeg on Jan 20, 2016 13:07:33 GMT -5
Hasn't Gagnon always been a Habs hater though? As for the Boos, I did not watch the game, was it possible they were directed at Therrien? Has it ever happened where a coach was so reviled by the fanbase that he got the brunt of the boos? Even when the sky was falling for Chelsea this year the fans never turned on Mourhino, they recognized the lack of effort by their stars and booed AFTER Mourhino was fired, contrast that with MT where his players seem to be trying hard but are stuck behind a coach who can't adjust and I can only imagine the boos would be directed at him. First, welcome back, MikeG ... I noticed you were on a few days ago, but it's been quite a while before that ... secondly, I'm hoping the boos were directed at the entire team, not only the coach ... several members here have already pointed out some of the decisions he's made and those concerns have been echoed by the Montreal media of late ... however, the players have to hold themselves accountable, as well, and they simply can't dismiss the feedback from the fans ... if that feedback is manifested in booing then so be it ... they're going to have to convince the fans who left under "quiet resignation" last night that they're not wasting money on a ticket ... that, or start earning their pay ... and they've sucked at that for quite a while now, too ... Chelsea? ... I'm still following them but I can't explain how their fans react because I don't follow the Premier League as much as I follow the NHL ... I'll take your word for it, because I find politeness is almost used as a weapon by the English (they apply it so well) ... Cheers. Thanks Dis! I spent the last decade lurking and reading the brilliant and always insightful comments on this board. You guys are the best group of message board commenters out there, so participating was something I always felt to be a bit overwhelming and daunting lol. But with the MT train wreck finally coming to a head I couldn't help myself to pile on. As for Chelsea, they went form Premier League champs last season to bordering on relegation from the start of the year (and still only a few points back of relegation). Nothing changed in terms of the team/system so the fans rightfully pegged it on the players. Of course there was a deathwatch for Mourhino and he did run out his welcome but really... the blame was not his to shoulder.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 20, 2016 13:55:42 GMT -5
Yeah, that and that silly darkest day crapola where they were even tracking the Habs flight from out west as if the SWAT squad would meet it on the Tarmac. Wasn't that when Jacques Demers broke into tears ... #whateverCheers. The RDS soap opera was in full swing that night.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 20, 2016 14:00:03 GMT -5
Good article (IMO) from Travis Yost on TSN. www.tsn.ca/michel-therrien-and-life-on-the-hot-seat-1.425375As the losses continue to mount, so too does speculation about Michel Therrien’s job security in Montreal.
High turnover has become the harsh reality of the National Hockey League. Front offices, under relentless pressure to win, only have a few bullets in the chamber to relieve pressure from ownership. Once that pressure reaches a certain point, executives usually are left with two options. If they want a do-over on the roster they’ve built, they’ll entertain the idea of a big trade. If they think the talent is adequate and the coaching is acting as a drag on performance, they’ll consider a change behind the bench.
The debate about Therrien and whether he’s the best man for the job in Montreal is as furious as it is consistent. Some have argued (and have for a long time) that he’s a drag on team performance. Others dissent, pointing to his respectable record with the Canadiens as a big counterpoint.
Therrien supporters will also point out an obvious truth: Montreal’s epic downturn has coincided with the loss of premier netminder Carey Price. Though the team’s skating performance has regressed with time, their margin for error sans Price is slim.
One thought about that goaltender. He is exceptionally good - perhaps the best goaltender in the league when he’s on his game. Simply returning him to the lineup should bring some sort of rebound for this team, though the big assumption there is that Price will return at full health for the rest of the season.
Still, we are left to ask: Is a team solely reliant on the performance of its goaltender really the Stanley Cup contender Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin envisioned?
If you’re a member of Montreal’s front office, the only things you care about right now is whether or not your head coach has done a good enough job given the circumstances, and whether or not he has properly adjusted his team to the situation at hand.
Allow me to change course for just a moment. If you’ve been paying attention to the Anaheim Ducks at all this season, you know they are in an epic goal-scoring drought. They can’t buy a goal and haven’t been able to for months. From an offensive perspective, it’s not dissimilar to what Montreal has been experiencing in the last couple of months.
Bruce Boudreau, who I have exhaustively argued is one of the league’s finer coaches, eventually reached a breaking point. The smoke around his potential termination was everywhere, and he knew it.
Rather than accepting the status quo, Boudreau made a series of changes. From a pure deployment perspective, he’s recently opted for sleeker and younger puck-moving defenders. Structurally, his team has went fully to the trap, prioritizing shutting down the neutral zone above all else.
The net effect? The scoring still hasn’t returned in Anaheim, but they’ve evolved into one of the league’s best defensive units. Mark Giordano called it the “biggest, most extreme” trap the Flames had seen all season. Now the Ducks score little, give up less than little, and are back winning games.
You can see Anaheim’s shooting percentage has taken an inexplicable nosedive since the start of the season (which, here, would be identified as game number 83). But, rather than wait for the random variance to turn favourable for Anaheim, Boudreau took a more desperate approach, opting to prioritize choking the neutral zone above all else. It’s essentially Boudreau’s way of offsetting his team’s brutal scoring drought: inflict pain defensively and win low-scoring, low-event games. It’s working.
Now back to Montreal - a team in an extremely similar situation. Much like the Ducks, the Canadiens can’t buy a goal. But, unlike Boudreau, it doesn’t appear that Therrien has made any change on the defensive end. If he has, the results just haven’t materialized in the way that they have in Anaheim.
Here’s the same exact graph, but from a Montreal perspective.
This, to me, screams tale of two coaches. Boudreau has been extremely successful for years by earning victories in just about every fashion. He’s won with a high-flying finesse group in Washington. He’s won with a super-aggressive, forecheck-above-all-else team in Anaheim. Now he’s winning with that same Anaheim team - same core group - but this one committed to unremitting defensive play.
Therrien just doesn’t seem to have answers. Whether Therrien hasn’t made the right adjustments or his team isn’t responding, the Canadiens have essentially devolved from the team to beat in the Eastern Conference to a team barely clinging to a playoff spot. It’s hard to apportion all of that to losing one goaltender, even a great one.
The Takeaway
Firing a coach isn’t a plan. But, if the Canadiens front office thinks Therrien is not having the proper impact and has identified a replacement who can make a difference, the decision gets a lot more interesting.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 20, 2016 14:06:32 GMT -5
Therrien just doesn’t seem to have answers. Whether Therrien hasn’t made the right adjustments or his team isn’t responding, the Canadiens have essentially devolved from the team to beat in the Eastern Conference to a team barely clinging to a playoff spot. It’s hard to apportion all of that to losing one goaltender, even a great one. Correct! The other 29 teams don't have Carey Price, either.... The Takeaway
Firing a coach isn’t a plan. But, if the Canadiens front office thinks Therrien is not having the proper impact and has identified a replacement who can make a difference, the decision gets a lot more interesting. And, once again, there's the bilingual pre-requisite which may be prolonging this misery. Pittsburgh had no such requirement.... I'm in no way saying that we'll win a Cup this year if we change the coaching staff and Price returns at 100%. Too many holes in key places. Price is so good, he makes up for that deficit...for awhile.
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Post by mikeg on Jan 20, 2016 14:08:22 GMT -5
Good article (IMO) from Travis Yost on TSN. www.tsn.ca/michel-therrien-and-life-on-the-hot-seat-1.425375As the losses continue to mount, so too does speculation about Michel Therrien’s job security in Montreal.
High turnover has become the harsh reality of the National Hockey League. Front offices, under relentless pressure to win, only have a few bullets in the chamber to relieve pressure from ownership. Once that pressure reaches a certain point, executives usually are left with two options. If they want a do-over on the roster they’ve built, they’ll entertain the idea of a big trade. If they think the talent is adequate and the coaching is acting as a drag on performance, they’ll consider a change behind the bench.
The debate about Therrien and whether he’s the best man for the job in Montreal is as furious as it is consistent. Some have argued (and have for a long time) that he’s a drag on team performance. Others dissent, pointing to his respectable record with the Canadiens as a big counterpoint.
Therrien supporters will also point out an obvious truth: Montreal’s epic downturn has coincided with the loss of premier netminder Carey Price. Though the team’s skating performance has regressed with time, their margin for error sans Price is slim.
One thought about that goaltender. He is exceptionally good - perhaps the best goaltender in the league when he’s on his game. Simply returning him to the lineup should bring some sort of rebound for this team, though the big assumption there is that Price will return at full health for the rest of the season.
Still, we are left to ask: Is a team solely reliant on the performance of its goaltender really the Stanley Cup contender Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin envisioned?
If you’re a member of Montreal’s front office, the only things you care about right now is whether or not your head coach has done a good enough job given the circumstances, and whether or not he has properly adjusted his team to the situation at hand.
Allow me to change course for just a moment. If you’ve been paying attention to the Anaheim Ducks at all this season, you know they are in an epic goal-scoring drought. They can’t buy a goal and haven’t been able to for months. From an offensive perspective, it’s not dissimilar to what Montreal has been experiencing in the last couple of months.
Bruce Boudreau, who I have exhaustively argued is one of the league’s finer coaches, eventually reached a breaking point. The smoke around his potential termination was everywhere, and he knew it.
Rather than accepting the status quo, Boudreau made a series of changes. From a pure deployment perspective, he’s recently opted for sleeker and younger puck-moving defenders. Structurally, his team has went fully to the trap, prioritizing shutting down the neutral zone above all else.
The net effect? The scoring still hasn’t returned in Anaheim, but they’ve evolved into one of the league’s best defensive units. Mark Giordano called it the “biggest, most extreme” trap the Flames had seen all season. Now the Ducks score little, give up less than little, and are back winning games.
You can see Anaheim’s shooting percentage has taken an inexplicable nosedive since the start of the season (which, here, would be identified as game number 83). But, rather than wait for the random variance to turn favourable for Anaheim, Boudreau took a more desperate approach, opting to prioritize choking the neutral zone above all else. It’s essentially Boudreau’s way of offsetting his team’s brutal scoring drought: inflict pain defensively and win low-scoring, low-event games. It’s working.
Now back to Montreal - a team in an extremely similar situation. Much like the Ducks, the Canadiens can’t buy a goal. But, unlike Boudreau, it doesn’t appear that Therrien has made any change on the defensive end. If he has, the results just haven’t materialized in the way that they have in Anaheim.
Here’s the same exact graph, but from a Montreal perspective.
This, to me, screams tale of two coaches. Boudreau has been extremely successful for years by earning victories in just about every fashion. He’s won with a high-flying finesse group in Washington. He’s won with a super-aggressive, forecheck-above-all-else team in Anaheim. Now he’s winning with that same Anaheim team - same core group - but this one committed to unremitting defensive play.
Therrien just doesn’t seem to have answers. Whether Therrien hasn’t made the right adjustments or his team isn’t responding, the Canadiens have essentially devolved from the team to beat in the Eastern Conference to a team barely clinging to a playoff spot. It’s hard to apportion all of that to losing one goaltender, even a great one.
The Takeaway
Firing a coach isn’t a plan. But, if the Canadiens front office thinks Therrien is not having the proper impact and has identified a replacement who can make a difference, the decision gets a lot more interesting.Yup, and the sad thing is every single Habs fan knew that about the guy before he was hired. We all screamed it, we all collectively went WTF!? Bergy polished the Turd as best he could but there is no amount of polish to make Therrien a great coach.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 20, 2016 14:13:08 GMT -5
An ironic point about the article above is the strategy taken by Boudreau when his scoring went to pot....he went to a strict trap system and the team cut down on scoring chances and improved their point totals.
He's very lucky that some other team didn't have their defensemen just stand in their own zone, passing the puck back and forth to try and humiliate him. Boucher gets vilifed for doing the same thing a very good coach, Boudreau, has done. Good coaches adjust and try a different tactic. Good teachers don't use the same teaching tactics with every student. I suggest that the above article compliments Boudreau and without intending to, Boucher. Of course, Boudreau has more talent on this Anaheim team than Boucher had in Tampa, especially in goal and on defense. Boudreau was able to make it work better than Boucher as a result. What will be interesting to observe is, when Anaheim's scoring returns (which it will), will Boudreau change his system again?
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Post by UberCranky on Jan 20, 2016 14:42:05 GMT -5
An ironic point about the article above is the strategy taken by Boudreau when his scoring went to pot....he went to a strict trap system and the team cut down on scoring chances and improved their point totals. He's very lucky that some other team didn't have their defensemen just stand in their own zone, passing the puck back and forth to try and humiliate him. Boucher gets vilifed for doing the same thing a very good coach, Boudreau, has done. Good coaches adjust and try a different tactic. Good teachers don't use the same teaching tactics with every student. I suggest that the above article compliments Boudreau and without intending to, Boucher. Of course, Boudreau has more talent on this Anaheim team than Boucher had in Tampa, especially in goal and on defense. Boudreau was able to make it work better than Boucher as a result. What will be interesting to observe is, when Anaheim's scoring returns (which it will), will Boudreau change his system again? Are you comparing MThead to a real NHL coach? Let's face it, the only reason MThead has a job has nothing to do with any decent coaching abilities. Now we have the pile on of the GM threatening to quit if he has to fire his pet. Like what is this suppose to be? Blackmail? Fire both of them and to hell with the season.
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Post by UberCranky on Jan 20, 2016 14:45:32 GMT -5
Today is a good day for a Therrienoscopy...... That doesn't remove. Just cleans things out. We need a "Therrienotomy" or "Therrienectomy". Sheesh...that's what i meant. I should actually get some sleep before posting....
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Post by blny on Jan 20, 2016 14:51:12 GMT -5
Is Gagnon the one who went off about the Kostitsyns and Hamrlik living in the same building as some made guy and saying before the story got out that it was the darkest day in team history?
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Post by mikeg on Jan 20, 2016 14:56:54 GMT -5
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 20, 2016 15:12:22 GMT -5
And the Kovalev tape of a Russian interview in which he allegedly dissed Carbo and his franco teammates. Here's Mitch Melnick's blog from that time....with a play-by-play as to how it unfolded. I didn't know that P.J. Stock was so involved...really challenged and went after Gagnon. Melnick, 2007That was the season Carbo benched Kovalev in Game 82 for most of the third period when we really needed a goal vs. Toronto. We lost 6-5 in a wacky game....and had been no-shows the game before in New York. All that, after Kovalev said this was "my time of year". We were eliminated that night. The same day I met Jean Beliveau..... EDIT: Just recalled the Steve Begin double-minor for high-sticking Kyle Wellwood at the end of the second period. The Leafs scored two goals early in the third, as Koivu was called for tripping Wellwood, extending the Leafs' PPO. We've gone through some brutal times....
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Post by blny on Jan 20, 2016 15:47:20 GMT -5
Oh crap, I thought that was someone else, print guy maybe, and had been cutting him slack. Duhh.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2016 9:45:51 GMT -5
This is what it has become
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 24, 2016 13:13:42 GMT -5
This is what it has become LOL. Although Max should probably be in the bunker with them. I'm pretty sure I recognize many of the Habsrus board in the background.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2016 13:52:25 GMT -5
This is what it has become LOL. Although Max should probably be in the bunker with them. I'm pretty sure I recognize many of the Habsrus board in the background. i am the one with grey hair holding a torch in the first row... The Habsrus faithful should identify who they are in this image
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 24, 2016 14:06:24 GMT -5
You can't actually see my face but I'm definitely wielding a pitch fork in the back. Three prongs: one for MT, one for MB, and the other one may be for Molson if he lets this go on much longer.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 24, 2016 14:10:07 GMT -5
Come on, you guys….we beat the Toronto Marleafs in a shootout last night, after blowing a 2-0 lead….playing one good period after several days off...…we're back, baby!
Pfffttt…..
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 24, 2016 14:19:36 GMT -5
Come on, you guys….we beat the Toronto Marleafs in a shootout last night, after blowing a 2-0 lead….playing one good period after several days off...…we're back, baby! Pfffttt….. The Leafs almost scored to win the game with 3 seconds left and we wouldn't have even got a point.I can't help thinking had we lost in that manner after giving up a 2 goal lead and being completely outplayed by the bottom feeding Leafs the storming of the Bastille would have looked like a family outing in comparison. Bottom line: I'm still welding my pitch fork.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 24, 2016 14:26:14 GMT -5
It's beyond ridiculous, habsorbed.
My band was gigging last night, so I could check the game only during a break.
I caught the shootout. An equal smattering of Leafs and Habs fans standing around the TV in a room adjacent to the hall.
Comments like:
"Neither team wants the extra point."
"Typical Habs….being bailed out by their goaltender…"
Leafs' fans were all resigned to whatever happens, happens….
Zero expectations. Babcock's done a good job stemming upheaval.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2016 14:28:32 GMT -5
I didn't watch the game i had a card night with 1 hab fan and 2 sens fans. .. no one was gloating about anything. .. could be no canadian teams in the playoffs this year
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