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Post by seventeen on Jan 21, 2016 20:22:27 GMT -5
Wonder what Berg would have said if his contract was up this June?
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 21, 2016 20:43:26 GMT -5
Mt would be gone by now
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 21, 2016 20:45:39 GMT -5
I think what may have hurt the club the most is keeping the Carey Price injury hanging over the heads of the club, the fans and the city ... each time it was announced that Price would be out longer, the team seemed to play worse ... if Price had to be shut down earlier in the season then maybe they should have just done that ... at the very least it wouldn't be as big a distraction ... Price is still not close to return so the guys should play like he's not coming back at all ... but the organization keeps that hope alive that he'll be back in time to save the world and they're sending the wrong message ...
Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Jan 21, 2016 20:55:04 GMT -5
If they trade galch for drouin i will turn in my jersey, shirts, and allegiance. I am pretty much done now. From top to bottom these guys are just not doing their jobs. What is with the moving target on the Price injury? Every time they speak it's different. Do they know what it is? Sure doesn't sound like. They will not tell us what the injury is and every time they change the date they just look stupider. I have had enough of the baffling call ups and demotions, the odd line combos, the on ice blunders and the myriad reasons (excuses) for the latest loss. If Roger's offered me RDS for nothing I'D refuse.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 21, 2016 20:59:04 GMT -5
Good chance the players have always known that Price would be gone this long...with more to come…but they're not allowed to say anything about it.
They also know they're not built strong enough WITH Price…so WITHOUT him for most of the season…do the psychological math….
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Post by blny on Jan 21, 2016 21:25:36 GMT -5
Good chance the players have always known that Price would be gone this long...with more to come…but they're not allowed to say anything about it. They also know they're not built strong enough WITH Price…so WITHOUT him for most of the season…do the psychological math…. Makes as much sense as anything. Berg has always been cloak and dagger, but this Potomac Two-step he's doing is taking covert to a new level. He's got a future in politics if this hockey thing doesn't work.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 21, 2016 21:31:05 GMT -5
Gotta wonder now why Price didn't have surgery if the problem is this bad ....
We need offense
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 21, 2016 21:33:59 GMT -5
I find our offense very offensive….
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Post by blny on Jan 21, 2016 21:40:49 GMT -5
I find our offense very offensive…. Very Peyton Manning of you.
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Post by UberCranky on Jan 21, 2016 21:51:25 GMT -5
Good chance the players have always known that Price would be gone this long...with more to come…but they're not allowed to say anything about it. They also know they're not built strong enough WITH Price…so WITHOUT him for most of the season…do the psychological math…. Add a coach who is a joke and a GM who scours the bottom of barrels......and do the math. Talent wise, they are far better then they show, but why should they bother if nobody cares about helping them win? This has now shifted away from the failed coach and GM and onto Molson. It's now up to him to change things and given that there is no $$$ incentive to do so, why should he. He has a built in excuse that his GM already spun at the presser. That's enough....and dumb fans duty is to.......keep filling his pockets.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jan 21, 2016 22:20:57 GMT -5
So then, BH, are we a good team having a bad year? This looks a lot like the 11-12 season when Martin was let go, and we have the same core (minus Galchenyuk). I'm only asking because I've wondered this myself. I think they are. There are enough solid pieces here and enough recent success to point to, but confidence is a fragile thing and this team has none. It's a young core and the reservoir of success and experience isn't deep enough. Nobody has won a Cup on this team, nobody has gone to the Finals. This streak has just done a number on them, and I think the knowledge that Carey Price probably isn't coming back this year isn't helping. You can say they should be tougher, and I would agree, but there is some plain old human nature at work here. I would say just ride it out, maybe deal Plekanec or Desharnais at the deadline to see if we can restock some picks or prospects and see what can be accomplished at the draft and in the offseason. We are not this bad, but this just has the look of a bad year. Maybe Berg can make the best of it. My problem is that even though I don't think now is the time to fire Therrien, my gut tells me we won't win a Cup with him behind the bench. He has one more year tops after this to make it at least to the conference finals, IMO.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 21, 2016 22:35:36 GMT -5
I think what may have hurt the club the most is keeping the Carey Price injury hanging over the heads of the club, the fans and the city ... each time it was announced that Price would be out longer, the team seemed to play worse ... if Price had to be shut down earlier in the season then maybe they should have just done that ... at the very least it wouldn't be as big a distraction ... Price is still not close to return so the guys should play like he's not coming back at all ... but the organization keeps that hope alive that he'll be back in time to save the world and they're sending the wrong message ... Cheers. Keeping the hope of Carey's imminent return alive also allows MB to justify only picking up Scrivens (ya, the guy who can't make the Leafs or the Oilers) to address the goalie concern. The organizational response to Carey's injury has been a complete debacle - bringing him back to early, not getting a replacement, and stringing his return out.
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Post by franko on Jan 21, 2016 22:47:25 GMT -5
This has now shifted away from the failed coach and GM and onto Molson. It's now up to him to change things and given that there is no $$$ incentive to do so, why should he. He has a built in excuse that his GM already spun at the presser. That's enough....and dumb fans duty is to.......keep filling his pockets. I almost go along with you, but the fact is that the Habs are a cap team. Molson ain't Melnyk, saving millions on salary. if you are going to spend to the limit, why not spend on something good?
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Post by folatre on Jan 21, 2016 23:19:42 GMT -5
A couple other things... I think we bailed too early on both Alex Semin and Zach Kassian. With hindsight, I don't think Semin really earned a ticket out of here and Berg wasted whatever upside he had with the Kassian trade. I wasn't a huge fan of it to begin with, but once the deal was done why not give the guy a second chance? He went to rehab to sort things but he was dead to Bergevin once the incident happened. He may still be a bust, but we could use his game right now. Seriously, this whole obsession with "character" in Montreal is looking pretty silly now. Berg preaches character and sits idly from the press box while the season goes down the drain. I agree. Semin was not performing better than poorly, but Therrien benched him after ten games when the club was 9-1. It was almost like he was happy to find something that upset him in that game at Edmonton in order to insert another non-offensive type wing into a team with an overabundance of bottom six skill level type players. I understand Semin was a long shot for little money, but it is illogical to try a skill guy for 15 total games, which represents less than 20 percent of an NHL season. For an organisation with no internal replacement for a guy auditioning as a top six winger, 25-30 games is the minimal that seems rational to assess things. Kassian was acquired knowing his heavy life issues. Sure, in little time, he messed up. But in an organisation with pathetic pool of top six forward talent, how is it logical to not see if he can turn corner in St. John's with close shadowing by club appointed professional in these type of situations? Because Bergevin felt betrayed? Because Therrien said we have other guys and those are the ones that I focus on? But why acquire the guy to begin with if the first problem shuts door on him working to overcome his past?
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 22, 2016 0:15:36 GMT -5
One thing's for sure. Bergevin knows what has to happen in order to acquire elite forwards at the draft. MB as pro scout with Chicago2006--finished 28th--picked Toews at #3. 2007--finished 26th--won the lottery...picked Kane at #1. ===================================== 2012--hired as GM of Montreal--picked Galchenyuk at #3. He knows the drill....and maybe he's okay with it. Always a hard sell in Montreal..... Just sayin'.....aren't there several can't-miss prospects in this coming Entry Draft? Why let the Oilers have another one? With that in mind....the mighty Carolina Hurricanes just tied us with 50 pts....and those Oilers are only 7 behind....
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 22, 2016 0:39:58 GMT -5
One thing's for sure. Bergevin knows what has to happen in order to acquire elite forwards at the draft. MB as pro scout with Chicago2006--finished 28th--picked Toews at #3. 2007--finished 26th--won the lottery...picked Kane at #1. ===================================== 2012--hired as GM of Montreal--picked Galchenyuk at #3. He knows the drill....and maybe he's okay with it. Always a hard sell in Montreal..... Just sayin'.....aren't there several can't-miss prospects in this coming Entry Draft? Why let the Oilers have another one? With that in mind....the mighty Carolina Hurricanes just tied us with 50 pts....and those Oilers are only 7 behind.... Wow! That's some pretty glossy lipstick you're putting on the big fat pig! It may be none of us have any choice but to kiss it and cozy up. Sad we gotta start rooting for the Tank - embarrassing actually. I'll see if i can get up the the jam to be shouting Go Leafs Go this Saturday. Man, this is a pathetic state.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 22, 2016 1:59:20 GMT -5
I think what may have hurt the club the most is keeping the Carey Price injury hanging over the heads of the club, the fans and the city ... each time it was announced that Price would be out longer, the team seemed to play worse ... if Price had to be shut down earlier in the season then maybe they should have just done that ... at the very least it wouldn't be as big a distraction ... Price is still not close to return so the guys should play like he's not coming back at all ... but the organization keeps that hope alive that he'll be back in time to save the world and they're sending the wrong message ... Cheers. This thing is far more serious IMO than peopel may think, and I'm not simply referring to Carey's injury. The secrecy is beyond belief. I've found that when people keep facts from you, it's because they want to manipulate the audience. They tell you enough to make you think a certain way, usually one that is favourable toward them. If we knew Price was going to be out 3 months, right from the get go, what would we have thought? What would we expect management to do? Perhaps to look at a replacement goalie better than Ben Scrivens. Perhaps to look at the whole team in a different light and instead of having patience to wait until Carey returns, to start asking "just how good is this team without Price". Perhaps kwe'd think that we might now get a better idea of just now much Price has been covering for the coach and management. Because I'm so skeptical (comes with my previous job) I looked at Carey not coming back until April when it would be way too late to have any impact at all. I'm rather distrustful, especially of people who have lied to me. I think this whole secretive business was designed to keep fans sort of happy or at least from asking pertinent questions about how this team is managed and coached. Nothing about Bergevin and Therrien makes me think they could operate in any other fashion. Therrien never answers line-up questions with what seems like a reasonable reply. DD plays more than GAlchy. Why is that? "Because GAlchy is not responsible". But all the metrics indicate he's better than DD defensively, so that doesn't make sense? Silence. It's not suprising that management is highly secretive. Sometimes it makes sense to keep specific injury areas unknown to your opponents. Any other time, it's a power issue. But we're just fans, hoping our team wins a championship, spending money on tickets and merchandise and watching lousy commercials. Give us a break. Tell us Carey has a knee injury or a groin issue. What a pathetic organization. Eric Engels thinks Bergevin was courageous to come out and accept responsibility. I question that because what other option did he have? What else could he say without throwing people under the bus? I'm not sure that's courage. I commend him for not blaming everyone else, though if he were truthful, he could throw half of it at Therrien. Can't do that, of course. I think he faced facts that he had to come out and say something. I saw a few posts recently, wondering "where is Bergevin when everything is falling apart?", so I think he felt this pressure coming and held the press conference to satisfy the masses. Fine, it's his fault. What are the consequences? Nothing. He's extended till kingdom come. He's been at his job about 4 years now and has accomplished basically nothing. The core is the same, the results are worse and his core is aging. It's great he's showing leadership, but how about a better team, and better coaching and a strong continuing organization? I don't think I'd be complimenting him about his courage. Its not a surprise, he's now being referred to as Marc Bargainbin. This season is shot. We're heading down faster than Enron stock. We even have a shot at worst record in the league. We're 18th overall, 12 points ahead of Columbus and only 8 points ahead of Buffalo, the second worst team. Did any of you, in your wildest nightmares, ever think, even with Carey Price hurt, that we wouldn't at worst be fighting for a playoff spot? That's a pipe dream. We're in the Auston Matthews race, now. Incredible.
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Post by UberCranky on Jan 22, 2016 4:30:12 GMT -5
This has now shifted away from the failed coach and GM and onto Molson. It's now up to him to change things and given that there is no $$$ incentive to do so, why should he. He has a built in excuse that his GM already spun at the presser. That's enough....and dumb fans duty is to.......keep filling his pockets. I almost go along with you, but the fact is that the Habs are a cap team. Molson ain't Melnyk, saving millions on salary. if you are going to spend to the limit, why not spend on something good? Then it would be a blatant "fu" to the fans. Why would he want an uprising when he can depend on selling hope and excuses...with no consequences? Besides, the trick is to have a higher evaluation, borrow against it and invest somewhere else. Do you remember what Gillet did? He refinanced the Habs, stripped 70 million for himself and shoved the debt on the club. Then he sold it for 600 million. The quality of the on ice product means very little in an franchise market like NY, Toronto and Montreal. If you introduce local market competition, potentially crushing the franchise value in half, we would of had a cup contender. Ditto Toronto.
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Post by franko on Jan 22, 2016 7:07:49 GMT -5
This season is shot. We're heading down faster than Enron stock. We even have a shot at worst record in the league. We're 18th overall, 12 points ahead of Columbus and only 8 points ahead of Buffalo, the second worst team. Did any of you, in your wildest nightmares, ever think, even with Carey Price hurt, that we wouldn't at worst be fighting for a playoff spot? That's a pipe dream. We're in the Auston Matthews race, now. Incredible. I'm on the "keep MT at all costs" bandwagon. why would we want a credible/actual coach who might get this team winning just enough to tease us with possibly making the playoffs *note I didn't say "playoff run* when we can keep free-falling? I hate hate hate that I've come to this as a Habs fan. but I hardly care at all - it isn't worth the emotional investment. though I haven't gone as far as cheering for the Leafs -- just can't do that.
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Post by blny on Jan 22, 2016 7:32:12 GMT -5
There are at least 3 'can't miss' kids this Spring. Matthews, and the two Finns - Laine and Puljujarvi - are studs. I'd take either Finn in a heartbeat to play beside Galchenyuk. Both are 6'3 plus 200lb 18yo snipers with lots of speed. They played together at the WJC, but are both rw's.
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Post by jkr on Jan 22, 2016 8:10:18 GMT -5
A couple other things... I think we bailed too early on both Alex Semin and Zach Kassian. With hindsight, I don't think Semin really earned a ticket out of here and Berg wasted whatever upside he had with the Kassian trade. I wasn't a huge fan of it to begin with, but once the deal was done why not give the guy a second chance? He went to rehab to sort things but he was dead to Bergevin once the incident happened. He may still be a bust, but we could use his game right now. Seriously, this whole obsession with "character" in Montreal is looking pretty silly now. Berg preaches character and sits idly from the press box while the season goes down the drain. I agree. Semin was not performing better than poorly, but Therrien benched him after ten games when the club was 9-1. It was almost like he was happy to find something that upset him in that game at Edmonton in order to insert another non-offensive type wing into a team with an overabundance of bottom six skill level type players. I understand Semin was a long shot for little money, but it is illogical to try a skill guy for 15 total games, which represents less than 20 percent of an NHL season. For an organisation with no internal replacement for a guy auditioning as a top six winger, 25-30 games is the minimal that seems rational to assess things. Kassian was acquired knowing his heavy life issues. Sure, in little time, he messed up. But in an organisation with pathetic pool of top six forward talent, how is it logical to not see if he can turn corner in St. John's with close shadowing by club appointed professional in these type of situations? Because Bergevin felt betrayed? Because Therrien said we have other guys and those are the ones that I focus on? But why acquire the guy to begin with if the first problem shuts door on him working to overcome his past? I said it earlier in the thread - agree with the Kassian thoughts. Disagree totally on Semin. The guy has been a bust in Carolina & is 5 years removed from that 40 goal year. Heck, he only has 6 points in 12 games in the KHL. He can't produce anymore even at that level. How could their scouts not see that?
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 22, 2016 8:10:27 GMT -5
Thanks, blny. Finishing low is the only way we're going to get one of them. Considering Bergevin's reluctance to make a big deal, it may be the best thing because at this rate, we're not going to get a bona fide scorer.
But he can't keep MT on as the coach.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 22, 2016 8:49:38 GMT -5
I think what may have hurt the club the most is keeping the Carey Price injury hanging over the heads of the club, the fans and the city ... each time it was announced that Price would be out longer, the team seemed to play worse ... if Price had to be shut down earlier in the season then maybe they should have just done that ... at the very least it wouldn't be as big a distraction ... Price is still not close to return so the guys should play like he's not coming back at all ... but the organization keeps that hope alive that he'll be back in time to save the world and they're sending the wrong message ... Cheers. This thing is far more serious IMO than peopel may think, and I'm not simply referring to Carey's injury. The secrecy is beyond belief. I've found that when people keep facts from you, it's because they want to manipulate the audience. They tell you enough to make you think a certain way, usually one that is favourable toward them. If we knew Price was going to be out 3 months, right from the get go, what would we have thought? What would we expect management to do? Perhaps to look at a replacement goalie better than Ben Scrivens. Perhaps to look at the whole team in a different light and instead of having patience to wait until Carey returns, to start asking "just how good is this team without Price". Perhaps kwe'd think that we might now get a better idea of just now much Price has been covering for the coach and management. Because I'm so skeptical (comes with my previous job) I looked at Carey not coming back until April when it would be way too late to have any impact at all. I'm rather distrustful, especially of people who have lied to me. I think this whole secretive business was designed to keep fans sort of happy or at least from asking pertinent questions about how this team is managed and coached. Nothing about Bergevin and Therrien makes me think they could operate in any other fashion. Therrien never answers line-up questions with what seems like a reasonable reply. DD plays more than GAlchy. Why is that? "Because GAlchy is not responsible". But all the metrics indicate he's better than DD defensively, so that doesn't make sense? Silence. It's not suprising that management is highly secretive. Sometimes it makes sense to keep specific injury areas unknown to your opponents. Any other time, it's a power issue. But we're just fans, hoping our team wins a championship, spending money on tickets and merchandise and watching lousy commercials. Give us a break. Tell us Carey has a knee injury or a groin issue. What a pathetic organization. Eric Engels thinks Bergevin was courageous to come out and accept responsibility. I question that because what other option did he have? What else could he say without throwing people under the bus? I'm not sure that's courage. I commend him for not blaming everyone else, though if he were truthful, he could throw half of it at Therrien. Can't do that, of course. I think he faced facts that he had to come out and say something. I saw a few posts recently, wondering "where is Bergevin when everything is falling apart?", so I think he felt this pressure coming and held the press conference to satisfy the masses. Fine, it's his fault. What are the consequences? Nothing. He's extended till kingdom come. He's been at his job about 4 years now and has accomplished basically nothing. The core is the same, the results are worse and his core is aging. It's great he's showing leadership, but how about a better team, and better coaching and a strong continuing organization? I don't think I'd be complimenting him about his courage. Its not a surprise, he's now being referred to as Marc Bargainbin. This season is shot. We're heading down faster than Enron stock. We even have a shot at worst record in the league. We're 18th overall, 12 points ahead of Columbus and only 8 points ahead of Buffalo, the second worst team. Did any of you, in your wildest nightmares, ever think, even with Carey Price hurt, that we wouldn't at worst be fighting for a playoff spot? That's a pipe dream. We're in the Auston Matthews race, now. Incredible. Good post, man ... I still really think Marc Bergevin showed strong leadership in what he said yesterday ... I don't know how many times over the years I've seen GMs/coaches blame everyone but themselves ... he may have had no choice, but unlike a few of his peers in the past, Bergevin took the heat on himself ... just like Phil Esposito did in '72 and just like Wayne Gretzky did in Salt Lake City in 2002 ... that's the leadership I was talking about ... I have no doubt Bergevin is withholding what he knows, but I don't think he really has a choice in that ... had he shut Price down in the first place then he wouldn't have to be so secretive ... however, he went on the feedback he got from the doctors and from Price, himself ... had he shut him down at that point he'd have been going against the feedback ... tough job, but I'm interested in seeing just how this speech affects the team in Toronto tomorrow night ... this might be THE most-crucial game of the season for the Habs ... lose this one, and lose it big, and I can see the season being just about done ... hope not, buuuuuut ... Cheers.
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Post by franko on Jan 22, 2016 9:07:01 GMT -5
Thanks, blny. Finishing low is the only way we're going to get one of them. Considering Bergevin's reluctance to make a big deal, it may be the best thing because at this rate, we're not going to get a bona fide scorer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team go on a bit of a run after the AS break: Flyers, Sabres, Oilers, Hurricanes (Lightning), Sabres, Coyotes, Avalanche, Flyers . . . who knows, we might even beat those beatable teams . . . even if there is a trade-away or two . . . so the tank scenario dives. I can add nothing.
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Post by mikeg on Jan 22, 2016 9:22:15 GMT -5
Whether or not we end up with a top 3 pick is irrelevant.
As long as MT is your bench boss, and you have him until 2018-2019... and by all accounts Bergy will go down with him... we are never going to be able to develop elite prospects into elite pros.
Don't forget Mol$son also extended Bergy to 2022 as well, so this whole roadshow is far from over and we may be stuck smashing our heads against our keyboards for quite a while.
I am beyond disheartened by all of this. I'll never understand the MT hire, no matter how many times it is explained and I will never forgive Bergy or Mol$on for it. It made no sense then, it makes no sense now. It's cronyism and it's not fitting for the organization and I lay the blame squarely at Mol$on's feet, but he doesn't give a crap because the spigot is flowing green.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 22, 2016 10:59:04 GMT -5
I agree. Semin was not performing better than poorly, but Therrien benched him after ten games when the club was 9-1. It was almost like he was happy to find something that upset him in that game at Edmonton in order to insert another non-offensive type wing into a team with an overabundance of bottom six skill level type players. I understand Semin was a long shot for little money, but it is illogical to try a skill guy for 15 total games, which represents less than 20 percent of an NHL season. For an organisation with no internal replacement for a guy auditioning as a top six winger, 25-30 games is the minimal that seems rational to assess things. Kassian was acquired knowing his heavy life issues. Sure, in little time, he messed up. But in an organisation with pathetic pool of top six forward talent, how is it logical to not see if he can turn corner in St. John's with close shadowing by club appointed professional in these type of situations? Because Bergevin felt betrayed? Because Therrien said we have other guys and those are the ones that I focus on? But why acquire the guy to begin with if the first problem shuts door on him working to overcome his past? I said it earlier in the thread - agree with the Kassian thoughts. Disagree totally on Semin. The guy has been a bust in Carolina & is 5 years removed from that 40 goal year. Heck, he only has 6 points in 12 games in the KHL. He can't produce anymore even at that level. How could their scouts not see that? This thought pattern also ran Latendresse out of town ... the stats don't lie (sure, there is that old saying about statistics... ) When we had Semin, we had THREE very productive lines. Semin wasn't producing, but his linemates were, and Semin gets some credit for that. I'll never understand Habs fans. We want our cake and eat it too it always seems. A fan favourite comes to town or comes back from injury and the fanbase slacks off him for 10-20 games. But we have someone who isn't producing when EVERYONE around him is, and the knives come out and we want him gone. We were 9-1 with Semin. 9-1!!! That old adage about not making changes when the going is good, doesn't seem to apply for some reason. Now everyone wants a cup of coffee nobody like Carr to be the offensive savior. Semin had 3 points in those 10 games; Carr has 7 points in 17 games. In that 9-1 streak we had the three most productive lines we have consistently had all year. We had Paciorrety-Plekanec-Gallagher; Eller-Galchenyuk-Semin; and Fleishmann-Desharnais-Weise. They we all producing. We haven't had three lines produce at such a clip since. Why? Because one guy of the nine wasn't producing at a 0.5 pt per game clip?? Because he was defensively unaware?? That's hogwash, cause he was backchecking like crazy night in and night out. I never understood it. So after ten games the first line combined for 30 points (16 goals), the second lined combined for 14 points (5 goals), and the third line combined for 17 points (7 goals). Then after the blowout in Vancouver, Semin is the scapegoat, and the very next game we have that awful collapse in Edmonton where we were up 3-0 after the first period and lose 4-3 on three third period goals. Who took the blame there??? No one!! The line-up was the exact same against Calgary! Games 7-8-9 Galchenyuk's line were actually showing signs of clicking, but whatever mistake he made in game 10 , it got him stapled to the bench. No one else mind you, no one else made a mistake so grievous all year it appears ... It boogles the mind really.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 22, 2016 11:01:26 GMT -5
Did any of you, in your wildest nightmares, ever think, even with Carey Price hurt, that we wouldn't at worst be fighting for a playoff spot? That's a pipe dream. We're in the Auston Matthews race, now. Incredible. I don't need to rehash the posts where I surmised where we'd be without a 0.936 goalie, with the same scoring ... and we have a 0.907 goalie, with LESS scoring in this current drought.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 22, 2016 11:15:32 GMT -5
Something else to add to the Semin saga.
He was benched for a month. A month! ... When he returned he was re-united with Galchenyuk and Eller for the Colorado game, where the entire team played terrible in that 6-1 loss.
In his second game, against Vancouver, he started each period with Galchenyuk and Eller, only to be replaced each period after the second/third shift by Torrey Mitchell. He got 6:48 total ice time that game.
Then in game three, he became his own worse enemy. They placed him on the fourth line with Flynn, and he set Flynn up for a goal. So of course, that's where he belonged in this lineup!!??
Two games later, coincidentally enough, the game Price got injured, Semin played his last 5:22 in a Habs jersey.
Why sign him if they were not going to at least try to utilize him?? Ahh yes, cause !Reclamation Marc!, figured what the heck, lets make it look like we tried at least ...
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Post by blny on Jan 22, 2016 11:33:14 GMT -5
If it's Reclamation Marc, or "Bargain bin" as they call him on hf, then it's Purgatory Michel. That's where skill players who make a mistake go.
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Post by franko on Jan 22, 2016 12:00:22 GMT -5
I have all sorts of names for MT, and non of them are as complimentary as "purgatory".
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