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Post by Bobs_HABit on Mar 20, 2003 20:03:22 GMT -5
I know this is the hockey board but I'm absolutely disgusted.
Sportsnet said that the fans at the Bell Center tonight booed the American National anthem tonight. For the 1st time in my life I'm embarrassed to be a Hab fan.
Now, Sportsnet didn't show the footage so I can't be sure if it was half the crowd, 20% of the crowd or 90% of the crowd but the way they reported it made it seem like it was the majority.
I wonder how our AMERICAN owner felt or Komi who grew up in basically a suburb of NYC.
Now I don't want to get too political but I'll just say I expect a reaction like this from our idiot PM and his band of know-nothing do-nothing Liberals but to those at the Ding-a-ling Center tonight (and that's appropriate) you should be ashamed.
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Post by MPLABBE on Mar 20, 2003 20:17:02 GMT -5
I heard it on the radio..it was maybe 10-20% booing....alot of people tried to cheer over it..
No big deal..probably just a bunch of idiots booing...especially with these things going on in the world...
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Post by clear observer on Mar 20, 2003 20:30:04 GMT -5
One of the perks of living in a free and democratic society...free speech. There'll always be idiots among us, but it's better than living in Baghdad.  CO |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 20, 2003 20:32:23 GMT -5
Gotta love democracy in action.
Freedom of speech. Take it away, and we're on our way to being...Iraq.
Roll with it. If everyone thinks the same it means that no-one is thinking.
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Post by wade on Mar 20, 2003 20:39:02 GMT -5
I heard it on the radio..it was maybe 10-20% booing....alot of people tried to cheer over it.. No big deal..probably just a bunch of idiots booing...especially with these things going on in the world... It seems to me a lot of fans just like to go out there and boo without the slightest bit of consideration... some people should learn to grow up and get a life.. we should be cheering.. whats the point of showing up to a habs game if u just goto boo,... sooner or later no one will want to play for montreal.... |
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Post by spozzy on Mar 20, 2003 20:45:14 GMT -5
Gotta love democracy in action. Freedom of speech. Take it away, and we're on our way to being...Iraq. Roll with it. If everyone thinks the same it means that no-one is thinking. If everyone was thinking, nobody would be booing the anthems. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 20, 2003 20:49:14 GMT -5
If everyone was thinking, nobody would be booing the anthems. Not thinking isn't a crime. Why do you think television is so popular? Besides, if everyone were truly thinking, there wouldn't be any anthems. |
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Post by spozzy on Mar 20, 2003 20:54:10 GMT -5
Besides, if everyone were truly thinking, there wouldn't be any anthems. A little abstruse...do you just mean no anthems at NHL games? Then I agree.  |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 20, 2003 20:56:17 GMT -5
A little abstruse...do you just mean no anthems at NHL games? Then I agree. Both ;D |
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Post by spozzy on Mar 20, 2003 21:00:09 GMT -5
Not thinking isn't a crime. Actually, it is a crime. Obviously it depends on the circumstances, but you certainly can be charged for negligence. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 20, 2003 21:06:08 GMT -5
Actually, it is a crime. Obviously it depends on the circumstances, but you certainly can be charged for negligence. Ah, you're thinking of *action*. However, not thinking leads to inaction rather than the opposite. Not thinking is a blissful, or vegetative state depending on your perspective. Booing results from thought, however fleeting. A clear mind makes no sound. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 20, 2003 21:09:10 GMT -5
If you guys help me become World Emperor I will neuter all those booers. Or at at least condition them to only boo Breezy.
It’s a freaken shame that Canadians can be hypocrites of the highest order. They depend and demand that we have access to US markets to eat, cloth and drive around in our SUV's but still turn and piss on them at their (our) leisure. How conveniently Canadian. Just like our GWL (Great Weasel Leader).
I am ashamed to call myself Canadian and a Hab’s fan.
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Post by clear observer on Mar 20, 2003 21:12:08 GMT -5
If you guys help me become World Emperor I will neuter all those booers. Or at at least condition them to only boo Breezy. It’s a freaken shame that Canadians can be hypocrites of the highest order. They depend and demand that we have access to US markets to eat, cloth and drive around in the SUV but still turn and piss on them at their leisure. How conveniently Canadian of them. Just like our GWL (Great Weasel Leader). I am ashamed to call myself Canadian and a Hab’s fan. YIKES! A Double whammy! There's that "free speech" thing again! CO |
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Post by MPLABBE on Mar 20, 2003 21:12:25 GMT -5
I am ashamed to call myself Canadian and a Hab’s fan. which one are you more ashamed of tonight? ;D |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Mar 20, 2003 21:21:27 GMT -5
If you guys help me become World Emperor I will neuter all those booers. Or at at least condition them to only boo Breezy. It’s a freaken shame that Canadians can be hypocrites of the highest order. They depend and demand that we have access to US markets to eat, cloth and drive around in the SUV but still turn and piss on them at their leisure. How conveniently Canadian of them. Just like our GWL (Great Weasel Leader). I am ashamed to call myself Canadian and a Hab’s fan. It is my democratic right to piss where I please, and to bear the consequences. Ashamed? How weak and "Canadian" of you. No au lait, or olé for you. Two years! |
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Post by jrs on Mar 20, 2003 21:23:19 GMT -5
I know this is the hockey board but I'm absolutely disgusted. Sportsnet said that the fans at the Bell Center tonight booed the American National anthem tonight. For the 1st time in my life I'm embarrassed to be a Hab fan. Now, Sportsnet didn't show the footage so I can't be sure if it was half the crowd, 20% of the crowd or 90% of the crowd but the way they reported it made it seem like it was the majority. I wonder how our AMERICAN owner felt or Komi who grew up in basically a suburb of NYC. Now I don't want to get too political but I'll just say I expect a reaction like this from our idiot PM and his band of know-nothing do-nothing Liberals but to those at the Ding-a-ling Center tonight (and that's appropriate) you should be ashamed. okay i held back for a long time, but now that is topic is in the non hockey forum i just can no longer resist. you think you are disgusted, imagine how the iraqi citizens getting bombed right now must feel "And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air," that says it all. you know what, frankly i don't care who is disgusted, i think that people have the right to voice their disgust with america and its greed-driven, oil war. i think you just got too political, and if you can take a stab at the "know nothing" liberals, and their leader, well i'd like to say that i am disgusted with the know nothing war-mongers in the whitehouse, and their leader. but personally i think we should all just agree to disagree, and leave our political points of view at home, whether they are flag-waving or flag-burning, pro-war or anti-war. one thing we can all agree to be disgusted with is the hab's brutal choke tonight. this is after all a habs message board. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 20, 2003 21:33:18 GMT -5
It is my democratic right to piss where I please, and to bear the consequences. It will be great if they close or squeeze the border, we can talk about hockey 24/7. As BadOne said, the whole "work for a living" does not really work for me either.  |
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Post by spozzy on Mar 20, 2003 21:54:36 GMT -5
Ah, you're thinking of *action*. However, not thinking leads to inaction rather than the opposite. Not thinking is a blissful, or vegetative state depending on your perspective. Booing results from thought, however fleeting. A clear mind makes no sound. Just try and ignore a policeman the next time he (or she) signals to pull you over... I'd say that booing results from incomplete thought. |
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Post by spozzy on Mar 20, 2003 22:00:01 GMT -5
If you guys help me become World Emperor I will neuter all those booers. Or at at least condition them to only boo Breezy. It’s a freaken shame that Canadians can be hypocrites of the highest order. They depend and demand that we have access to US markets to eat, cloth and drive around in our SUV's but still turn and piss on them at their (our) leisure. How conveniently Canadian. Just like our GWL (Great Weasel Leader). I am ashamed to call myself Canadian and a Hab’s fan. Yup, do we know how to be a good friend or what? At least Russia, Germany, and France have sinister motives for their stance...what is our beef? |
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Post by spozzy on Mar 20, 2003 22:16:00 GMT -5
I'd imagine that they a very anxious in anticipation of the very minute the US succeeds in freeing them from the oppressive rule of a dictator.
Amazing how the war protesters ignore facts and create their own, eh? They make no mention at all of how terrible a person Saddam is and the pain he's put his own people through. They have to glue themself to the tv for a bit and watch how careful the 'war-monger' Americans are being in trying to avoid civilian deaths. What other country in the world has ever done this? Where was the rest of the world when the US targetted the Yugoslav army to stop atrocities in Kosovo and Bosnia? Why do Albanians and Bosnian Muslims love Americans? Why do Kuwaitis love Americans? Why is most of eastern Europe in strong support of the US? They love freedom and freedom fighters, plain and simple.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 20, 2003 22:22:01 GMT -5
Let's not forget how that freedom of speach was earned.
Cheers.
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Post by Cranky on Mar 20, 2003 22:41:16 GMT -5
Guy's, this is a minefield. Do your utmost not to direct your comments at a specific poster. If you agree with someone then quote him but if you do not agree then DON'T quote him. On the other hand you can quote me all the time because I am good looking and carry a delete button. See what happens when one thinks like a World Emperor. |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 20, 2003 23:01:26 GMT -5
Yup, do we know how to be a good friend or what? At least Russia, Germany, and France have sinister motives for their stance...what is our beef? You call France, Germany and Russia sinister? How dare you! Do you know how much money Iraq owes France for a nuclear plant, uranium fuel and weapons? How dare you deprive that wonderful country of their just payments! Besides, they had a HUGE oil deal worked out and now it's in ruins. French oil giant TotalFinaElf had exclusive exploration contracts worth €60bn - €75bn (90 to 130 billion Canadian) to develop the massive Majnoon and Bin Umar oilfields in southern Iraq. It's all in RUINS, I tell ya, RUINS. By the way, that deal screwed Iraq big time but why let those little details get in the way of a nice country like France. How is the German industry going to subsidize itself without a bit of weapons exports? They are in the throws of a huge recession and they have their entire social system at risk. Who is going to buy their expensive weapons and goods if they can not have a good friend like Saddam. Do you realize their 10 week vacations are at risk? Besides, Schröder 's policy on Iraq, which he took to win an election, has now painted him into a corner. Russia? Well they are just looking to get paid for all those old cardbord tanks those dastardly Americans destroyed in ’91. Actually, Saddam was looking for refunds on those moving targets but all Russia could sell give them was more moving targets (with much better cardboard construction). That’s why Saddam wanted to buy Leapord 2’s from Germany. Yup, the same tanks Canada has. Oh and let's not forget another "oil deal" that screws Iraq but buys a new friend for Saddam. Oh, I forgot. Saddam was also going to reward his friends with heavily discounted existing oil. Nothing like buying your friends with a little Black Gold. Dammit, the Ugly Americans ruin it for them "allies". Canada has no sinister motives but we do have a Sinister Prime Minister (catchy phrase) who sees his own end in Canada and wants nothing more then to move on the world stage, much like our old little Brian. Is it too late to make him World Emperor? And I thought that monkeys were funny. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Mar 20, 2003 23:04:35 GMT -5
I know this is the hockey board but I'm absolutely disgusted. Sportsnet said that the fans at the Bell Center tonight booed the American National anthem tonight. For the 1st time in my life I'm embarrassed to be a Hab fan. Now, Sportsnet didn't show the footage so I can't be sure if it was half the crowd, 20% of the crowd or 90% of the crowd but the way they reported it made it seem like it was the majority. I wonder how our AMERICAN owner felt or Komi who grew up in basically a suburb of NYC. Now I don't want to get too political but I'll just say I expect a reaction like this from our idiot PM and his band of know-nothing do-nothing Liberals but to those at the Ding-a-ling Center tonight (and that's appropriate) you should be ashamed. I agree 100% The US is doing the right thing and doing it alone. Cretin is standing on the sidelines and saying we should spend another 11 years passing resolutions in the UN threatining Saddam that we will attack him with another round of sanctions. Bush is doing the right thing. Saddam is a bad man and we need to get him out of there. It's for our own security. The world is too small and the biological and nuclear weapons are too dangerous. All the people who booed the US anthem must feel very brave and very proud? |
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Post by PTH on Mar 20, 2003 23:29:38 GMT -5
If I'd been there I would have booed the American Anthem myself. I've never seen the point of anthems at games, but if it's a chance to make a statement, I'll make one.
The US has gone it alone to take out a dictator - despite international disapproval, both on the political and general population level. Bush is going after someone because he has serious interests in taking over his country and making it another American satellite. The people there won't be much more free than they are now - most US allies have equivalent dictators. South Korea has become a democracy just recently, Saoudi Arabia, Kuwait and the like are all apprevive dictatorships too - only they oppress their own people while still selling the US oil and giving in to US demands. In other words, oppressing your people is OK, it's not giving in that's a problem.
The Israeli comparison is one that Muslims bring up with some justification - repeated UN calls for a pullout of the Occupied territories lead to nothing, yet it's an Iraq filled with UN inspectors that gets threatened and invaded.
Bush will squash the Iraqis, but what then ? Another oppressive government ? A democracy can't be allowed, within 10 years it'll be another anti-US dictator.
This will lead to countless deaths, countless more terrorists, and countless bucks for Bush's oil buddies - ie, essentially his entire cabinet.
It's blood for oil, but hey, let's not worry about that, it's Iraqi blood....
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Post by Cranky on Mar 20, 2003 23:49:42 GMT -5
No facts should stand in front of a good pacifist. Tarmiya plant to make weapons grade uranium.  A few easy steps and an Erector Set and viola, your own atomic bomb.  Look at this wonderful picture of death. Wouln't this be a great decoration in downtown Montreal or Toronto?  Like I said, facts should NEVER get in the way of a good pacifist. Isn't it a fact that all dictators are really nice guys, their just misunderstood. www.nahrain.com/d/news/03/03/11/nhr0311m.html |
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Post by PTH on Mar 20, 2003 23:55:38 GMT -5
You're right - we should really go after anyone who has a chance to get close to one of those things.
Yet, it's the guy sitting on the oil with inspectors crawling up his rear end who gets blasted, and the guy in snowy, oil-poor North Korea essentially does as he pleases - building bombs, reactors, kicking out inspectors and dropping out of nuclear non-proliferation treaties without a hitch.
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Post by Cranky on Mar 20, 2003 23:57:12 GMT -5
Everybody in good time. You can't clean all the dust mites with one shake. Wouldn't this be a wonderful scene in Montreal's or Toronto's subway? I heard that gas only hurts a lot. Perfect for killing that nasty smokers cough, courtesy of your friendly neighbohood dictator. *cries*  |
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Post by spozzy on Mar 21, 2003 0:15:59 GMT -5
The only statement a person makes by booing a national anthem at a sports event is that he or she has no class. Further, booing the American anthem gives the impression the person is a fool.
Yes, the rest of the world should be ashamed of themselves.
Please tell me you are smoking something. Is this the same reason the US liberated most of Europe? To somehow enslave it?
Typical. Way to completely avoid the facts.
Two completely different and and thus incomparable situations. Something should be done to bring peace to that region, but it's not so easy as a simple inaction solely on the part of the Israelis.
Could you explain and expand on this please? Another oppressive government? Forbidden democracy? 10 years, another anti-US dictator? What are you basing your assumptions on? Certainly not fact or reason.
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Post by spozzy on Mar 21, 2003 0:22:11 GMT -5
You're right - we should really go after anyone who has a chance to get close to one of those things. Yet, it's the guy sitting on the oil with inspectors crawling up his rear end who gets blasted, and the guy in snowy, oil-poor North Korea essentially does as he pleases - building bombs, reactors, kicking out inspectors and dropping out of nuclear non-proliferation treaties without a hitch. I *think* it can be assumed the US is seriously concered about what is going on in North Korea. Why is it that the rest of the world isn't doing anything on the issue? WHY IS IT that the rest of the WORLD is trying to make it a one-on-one issue with the US? Nobody wants to assume their responsibilities. But when the US acts, the world all of a sudden criticizes.  |
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