Belinda Stronach Crosses Over-Government Survives

[franko]

And it's all moot. So we have a six-to-nine month election campaign starting now

I wonder if Mr. Martin will throw some money my way?

[Cranky]

docholliday said:

Rich self-centered bitch that followed the money path to insure that the most corrupted government ever elected stays on... She fits perfectly well in that party of crooks.

...pardon my french.

Hey, it's nothing compared to what I would write..........if I could.

The last time I had this much hate for politician was when my litttle buddy Brian was screwing the country into the ground. There HAS to be a solution to all these power hungry b@st@rds.

[Cranky]

badcompany said:

habsaddict said:

Of course she did this for her constituents. In fact, she loves her constituents so much that the FIRST thing she did in politics was try to go for the really big brass ring and that is to win the Conservative leadership. Even MORE proof that she did this for her constituents was the fact that she got a FAT portfolio and a chance to be something as important as her mind and arrogance envisions herself to be.

This has nothing to do with LEADERSHIP, VISION or CARING. It has ONLY to do with a party and it's leader on their death bed promising ANYTHING to anyone as long as they can cling to power. The only thing Blond Belinda can be credited for is having the tremendous vision to join in on the corruption for power.

One more thing you should know. I heard her father speak and I have never heard so much arrogance come from a mans mouth. We are talking slave owner, King's court arrogance. In fact, if we move him back 300 years, he would be right at home in a cotton plantation. The Blonde Belinda is a test tube clone of daddies arrogance and imperiousness.

And they have broken the convenent given to them. As night follows day, the day of reckoning WILL come. The little people will gather to take vangeance and wash away the infection of the wicked and greed of the corrupt.

(HA. 05:19:05)

Oh for sure, it was a grab at power. By both Stronach and the Liberals. As Mr. Beaux-eaux would say, same as it ever was. Why is Stephen Harper trying to force an early election now, when the majority of Canadians don’t want one, and at best, he would only form a minority government himself? Power, of course. He wants his War Amps return address labels to read 24 Sussex Drive, if only briefly. He’s just mad that Stronach is now closer to the top than he is.

As for Stronach herself, yes, she has all the trademarks of a power-hungry, glory-seeking, dirty, grubby politician. Oh well. That just puts her into the big leagues, with Martin, Harper, Duceppe and the grand master himself, Saint Jean de Shawinigan. Government, as they say, attracts the very people who shouldn’t be in it.

But Stronach also displays an independent streak. To be a rookie politician blatantly going against Party policy, as she did on same-sex marriage, and those anti-gay ads the Tories ran, took some guts. She very easily could have just toed the party line (in a softer, more feminine voice, of course), and suffered no slings and arrows because of it. She also spoke out against trying to bring down the government over this budget weeks ago, partly because it looks to be a futile venture, partly because it hurts her riding, partly because most Canadians don’t want this battle fought just right now. She stood to gain nothing from speaking out against this Tory policy, and indeed, I have an article in front of me from two weeks ago saying her stance may have hurt her position within the Tories caucus, but she did it anyways. Unless of course, you think she had planned this jump all along, and was paving the road for it with her comments. In which case, bravo! Machiavelli would be proud.

But I honestly think she just wasn’t comfortable within this Reform… sorry, PC party. As an aside, I don’t think Peter Mackay is all that comfortable either, but I digress. Stronach’s positions on same-sex, the youth wing, abortion, and now forcing an election have all run (publicly) counter-current to Harper’s, and she was often ostracized for it. When given the chance to leap ahead several rungs on the power ladder, AND take stances that happen to coincide with her own personal positions, why wouldn’t she take it? If Paul Martin offered Stephen Harper the Deputy Prime Minister position, with assurances he will be PM in four years, said the Liberal Party will outlaw abortion, ban homosexual marriages, and bring back capital punishment, Harper would jump too. Stronach’s price was just lower, that’s all.

I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw her, of course, and Martin should sleep with one firmly trained on his new bedfellow, but I don’t think she is quite the bimbo and traitor the Old Boys in the Reform Party are making her out to be.

Slap me with a graphite hockey stick but you sound almost apologetic for her actions. It's like saying "I know he scored in his own net but it was a GREAT shot". Sheesh...

She did what she did to keep a CORRUPT party in power. I don't care if she wears a nuns uniform and gets a blessing from the Pope, as far as I am concerned, she is no better then ANY of them and deserves nothing but spitting contempt.

[Cranky]

badcompany said:

If the Conservatives form a minority government, I’d be almost certain of them falling within six months. Especially if their partners are the Bloc Quebecois. Frankly speaking, this is the best thing that can happen to the Bloc. What can the Tories offer the Bloc that would entice them to stay in the alliance? They differ on every single issue, be it social, economic, national or provincial. They’ll spend two months in this “alliance”, then claim they aren’t getting anything from it (“see Injustice #1, Quebec Insult #2, Red Neck Comment #3”), claim that they have been backstabbed by their partners (oh the knives! the oh-so very long knives!), and pull out of the alliance.

Then, it’s a free-for all (and you thought it was bad now!). The Liberals, sensing blood and power, push to topple the now defenseless PC minority government. The NDP, sensing money to be had from the power-starved Liberals, demand every freaking concession they have ever dreamed of, making Canada more socialist than Cuba. The Bloc, grinning from ear-to-ear, turn to Quebec and say “see? not only can we not work with English Canada – we tried, didn’t we? – but Canada itself isn’t working. When was the last time a government actually governed here? Quebec needs to separate.”

Bad times.

Unfortunatly, I have to agree. Worse still is my nightmare of a deep recession with no manufacturing jobs left to come out of it and endless government corruption enslaving us into ever deeper debt.

"Bad times" may be an understatement.........

[roke]

I hope you don't mind I updated the title.

[Toronthab]

habsaddict said:

badcompany said:

If the Conservatives form a minority government, I’d be almost certain of them falling within six months. Especially if their partners are the Bloc Quebecois. Frankly speaking, this is the best thing that can happen to the Bloc. What can the Tories offer the Bloc that would entice them to stay in the alliance? They differ on every single issue, be it social, economic, national or provincial. They’ll spend two months in this “alliance”, then claim they aren’t getting anything from it (“see Injustice #1, Quebec Insult #2, Red Neck Comment #3”), claim that they have been backstabbed by their partners (oh the knives! the oh-so very long knives!), and pull out of the alliance.

Then, it’s a free-for all (and you thought it was bad now!). The Liberals, sensing blood and power, push to topple the now defenseless PC minority government. The NDP, sensing money to be had from the power-starved Liberals, demand every freaking concession they have ever dreamed of, making Canada more socialist than Cuba. The Bloc, grinning from ear-to-ear, turn to Quebec and say “see? not only can we not work with English Canada – we tried, didn’t we? – but Canada itself isn’t working. When was the last time a government actually governed here? Quebec needs to separate.”

Bad times.

Unfortunatly, I have to agree. Worse still is my nightmare of a deep recession with no manufacturing jobs left to come out of it and endless government corruption enslaving us into ever deeper debt.

"Bad times" may be an understatement.........

Sometimes it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt. Nah. too tough. Ironically, the ditzy doe-doe bird might inadvertantly have saved the country. Strange, strange world.

[BadCompany]

habsaddict said:

badcompany said:

If the Conservatives form a minority government, I’d be almost certain of them falling within six months. Especially if their partners are the Bloc Quebecois. Frankly speaking, this is the best thing that can happen to the Bloc. What can the Tories offer the Bloc that would entice them to stay in the alliance? They differ on every single issue, be it social, economic, national or provincial. They’ll spend two months in this “alliance”, then claim they aren’t getting anything from it (“see Injustice #1, Quebec Insult #2, Red Neck Comment #3”), claim that they have been backstabbed by their partners (oh the knives! the oh-so very long knives!), and pull out of the alliance.

Then, it’s a free-for all (and you thought it was bad now!). The Liberals, sensing blood and power, push to topple the now defenseless PC minority government. The NDP, sensing money to be had from the power-starved Liberals, demand every freaking concession they have ever dreamed of, making Canada more socialist than Cuba. The Bloc, grinning from ear-to-ear, turn to Quebec and say “see? not only can we not work with English Canada – we tried, didn’t we? – but Canada itself isn’t working. When was the last time a government actually governed here? Quebec needs to separate.”

Bad times.

Unfortunatly, I have to agree. Worse still is my nightmare of a deep recession with no manufacturing jobs left to come out of it and endless government corruption enslaving us into ever deeper debt.

"Bad times" may be an understatement.........

So whatever you may think her motivations were, there is no denying that by crossing the floor she just may have saved the country.

For now, anyways.

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

badcompany said:

habsaddict said:

Unfortunatly, I have to agree. Worse still is my nightmare of a deep recession with no manufacturing jobs left to come out of it and endless government corruption enslaving us into ever deeper debt.

"Bad times" may be an understatement.........

So whatever you may think her motivations were, there is no denying that by crossing the floor she just may have saved the country.

For now, anyways.

I'll say it again (because I like saying things again): A stroke of political genius on her part. Wouldn't surprise me if one day she becomes the first Empress of Canada—the attention, the power, and the size of that entertainment budget!

[M. Beaux-Eaux]

franko said:

And it's all moot. So we have a six-to-nine month election campaign starting now

I wonder if Mr. Martin will throw some money my way?

If I were editing Ambrose Bierce's Devil's Dictionary, I'd insert the following addendum to the definition of politician; "one who is elected to serve the people, but ends up helping himself."

[Disgruntled70sHab]

2005-05-21
Bumbling Harper not ready for prime time

CHIP MARTIN, A Week in Politics

The beginning of the end for Conservative Leader Stephen Harper came when he summoned Belinda Stronach to his office a bit more than a week ago and read her the riot act.

The former policy wonk reamed out the millionaire auto parts heiress and demanded she toe the party line from now on. He was tired of the contrary positions being taken by the woman he had beaten in his party's leadership contest.

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