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Post by Cranky on Jul 31, 2007 22:21:57 GMT -5
Actually, I agree with everything you just said. I love the theorical aspect of engineering, but working with technicians and mecanics, I want to put my hands in the paste(les mains dans la pâte). I actually would love to find an employer who lets and asks me to learn all that stuff. In fact, I'd say you can't be creative until you actually try to build, fix and work with the things you design. Employers have to realise these mechanical engineers are actually trained to be brain power, as administrators, business and anything that involves thinking. If an engineer is doing design exclusively, then fire his ass because he's scewing you out of big bucks! I'm kidding of course, but that would be a waste of talents imo. And by the way, I was serious, for 8 to 10$ an hour(hell, I'd take minimum wage) part time(I should have a four day week I think), I'd love to work in my field, actually do things with the machines, either building or fixing, or getting my hands dirty. I'm a straight A student also who loves work. Also, you get paid 20$ an hour as a student working as a blue collar  Do you realize that I'm in Toronto? And there is no such thing as "blue collar" in my books. Everyone in the company is equal but with different skill sets. Why don't you get a part time job in a helper in a maintenance department? That is how I started. My first summer job (at 13!) was in the mould shop of casting factory in Montreal. My incessant curiosity of how they made moulds caught the annoyance of three old school German mould makers but eventually, much like a monkey learning to fly, they taught me how to use every piece of equipment by my third summer. I think that I also got a life long sarcasm virus. "Und you vant to be an engineer and you don't know how to hold a file", or "it looks like some monkey with stone tools made this". That type of apprenticeship (and attitude) was common in the old German machine shops, but you know what, combine that with university and there is NOTHING you can't design/build. The sad part is that today, companies don't want to invest their time in teaching people. They run into the same problem that I ran into. You take a raw "just two hands" person and you teach them how to work with sophisticated machines, then the next thing you know, a short time later, they are demanding $30 an hour. Sure, they may be worth that much to someone else (car companies) or they come in experienced but it irks me when I spend so much resources to teach them and they forget that by their next paycheck. Worker mobility serves the worker but it also killed apprenticeship programs. It is a bit different for engineers but only in degree, not concept. Anywho.....I'm ranting and slanting away.... If you are really serious about learning the "hands on" aspect, find a company that hires engineers for large maintenance departments or smaller companies that make custom machinery. A lot of companies will take advantage of your relative "inexpensiveness". |
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Post by Kareem on Aug 1, 2007 15:00:53 GMT -5
Do you realize that I'm in Toronto? And there is no such thing as "blue collar" in my books. Everyone in the company is equal but with different skill sets. Blue collars is the term we generally use to describe city workers in Montreal, you know, the ones that are unionized and haven't worked for a day of their lives. Yet, they still get paid 20$+/h. Why don't you get a part time job in a helper in a maintenance department? That is how I started. My first summer job (at 13!) was in the mould shop of casting factory in Montreal. My incessant curiosity of how they made moulds caught the annoyance of three old school German mould makers but eventually, much like a monkey learning to fly, they taught me how to use every piece of equipment by my third summer. I think that I also got a life long sarcasm virus. "Und you vant to be an engineer and you don't know how to hold a file", or "it looks like some monkey with stone tools made this". That type of apprenticeship (and attitude) was common in the old German machine shops, but you know what, combine that with university and there is NOTHING you can't design/build. Hey, I started working at 13 also, on the strawberry fields. I'll try what you said though, I need to find people I trust first, employers who are looking to teach the younger generation. There's nothing I'd like more then that type of apprenticeship for this year. I'm learning it all by myself making my own products, but it's not the same. The sad part is that today, companies don't want to invest their time in teaching people. They run into the same problem that I ran into. You take a raw "just two hands" person and you teach them how to work with sophisticated machines, then the next thing you know, a short time later, they are demanding $30 an hour. Sure, they may be worth that much to someone else (car companies) or they come in experienced but it irks me when I spend so much resources to teach them and they forget that by their next paycheck. Worker mobility serves the worker but it also killed apprenticeship programs. It is a bit different for engineers but only in degree, not concept. Business is business though, you probably know it more then anyone. Personally, I look for a good income and a nice working environemment where my talents are utilized to the fullest. I can see where you're coming from though. Anywho.....I'm ranting and slanting away.... If you are really serious about learning the "hands on" aspect, find a company that hires engineers for large maintenance departments or smaller companies that make custom machinery. A lot of companies will take advantage of your relative "inexpensiveness". I will definetly check that out and I'm very serious about learning. If you knew me, you'd know how much I crave to get new skills all the time. Too bad you're in DumpVille, Ontario though, surrounded by the legions of Star trek maple leaf fans. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2007 11:05:13 GMT -5
I finally got a blog installed on my site. Now it looks sexy. www.mxpress.ca |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 4, 2007 11:44:25 GMT -5
I finally got a blog installed on my site. Now it looks sexy. www.mxpress.caVery nice work, Matt. Thanks. Cheers. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2007 12:19:06 GMT -5
I finally got a blog installed on my site. Now it looks sexy. www.mxpress.caVery nice work, Matt. Thanks. Cheers. Thank you for visiting, Dis! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2007 10:32:35 GMT -5
I don't mean to keep flooding this thread, but I recently found a program much like GarageBand that allows you to mix and match prerecorded sound clips of various instruments. It's really interesting seeing the things you can actually compile. Here's a result of one of my samples. It's a good listen (too bad I can't actually claim it as being fully original). www.mxpress.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/sample-mix.mp3 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2008 15:44:30 GMT -5
Got some new music up, guys. Blue Crystals - Using the GPO that comes with Finale (the sound is so much better than MIDI) Traversal Plain - bit of a remix with my sequencer software. |
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Post by cigarviper on Apr 11, 2008 21:38:54 GMT -5
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Post by Kareem on Apr 14, 2008 15:32:56 GMT -5
Good work Mattias.
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Post by MC Habber on Apr 14, 2008 16:59:30 GMT -5
That's interesting. But I've always wondered, if technology advances to the point where we can "simulate" any instrument with a computer, without any loss of sound quality, will we even need people to play instruments anymore? |
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Post by Kareem on Apr 14, 2008 19:48:02 GMT -5
That's interesting. But I've always wondered, if technology advances to the point where we can "simulate" any instrument with a computer, without any loss of sound quality, will we even need people to play instruments anymore? As a former musician, I'd be surprised if they come up with something like that on the short term. If you've ever listened to the geniuses play in front of you, you know it's something that's going to be very hard to replicate. |
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Post by cigarviper on Apr 14, 2008 19:58:13 GMT -5
That's interesting. But I've always wondered, if technology advances to the point where we can "simulate" any instrument with a computer, without any loss of sound quality, will we even need people to play instruments anymore? Absolutely. A computer can never give music emotion. Think muzak. It's the human emotion in music that makes it magical. The idea of the software is to allow people who have no musical playing ability to produce music of any kind. So, without talent to play anyone can not only write a jingle, a song or a symphony but "play" one also. That's really where music belongs in the first place not reserved to a select few but in everyone's hands. I think it's breakthrough and exciting. I've heard music by people who can't play a single instrument and some of them are really creative. This removes any boundaries they might have had and now they're only limited by their minds. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2008 21:23:49 GMT -5
That's really interesting, CV; that literally limits retakes. However, I use notation software and sequencers; I don't actually have any live recordings. The GPO (Garritan Pocket Orchestra) that comes with Finale has a lot of pre-recorded sounds, which is pretty close to a live recording. It's really creepy that they can break down chords like that and alter pitches. That's uncanny. |
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Post by cigarviper on Apr 14, 2008 22:07:50 GMT -5
That's really interesting, CV; that literally limits retakes. However, I use notation software and sequencers; I don't actually have any live recordings. The GPO (Garritan Pocket Orchestra) that comes with Finale has a lot of pre-recorded sounds, which is pretty close to a live recording. It's really creepy that they can break down chords like that and alter pitches. That's uncanny. You should see what it can do for vocals. Cutting edge stuff. |
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Post by MC Habber on Apr 14, 2008 22:36:25 GMT -5
That's interesting. But I've always wondered, if technology advances to the point where we can "simulate" any instrument with a computer, without any loss of sound quality, will we even need people to play instruments anymore? Absolutely. A computer can never give music emotion. Think muzak. It's the human emotion in music that makes it magical. The idea of the software is to allow people who have no musical playing ability to produce music of any kind. So, without talent to play anyone can not only write a jingle, a song or a symphony but "play" one also. That's really where music belongs in the first place not reserved to a select few but in everyone's hands. I think it's breakthrough and exciting. I've heard music by people who can't play a single instrument and some of them are really creative. This removes any boundaries they might have had and now they're only limited by their minds. So you still have a human to put the emotion in, but they're sitting at a computer keyboard instead of playing a real instrument. And of course you can do things with a computer that you can't with a real instrument. So why even bother playing real instruments? It seems sad to think of most music being made that way, but I wonder if it eventually will be. |
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Post by cigarviper on Apr 14, 2008 23:16:39 GMT -5
Absolutely. A computer can never give music emotion. Think muzak. It's the human emotion in music that makes it magical. The idea of the software is to allow people who have no musical playing ability to produce music of any kind. So, without talent to play anyone can not only write a jingle, a song or a symphony but "play" one also. That's really where music belongs in the first place not reserved to a select few but in everyone's hands. I think it's breakthrough and exciting. I've heard music by people who can't play a single instrument and some of them are really creative. This removes any boundaries they might have had and now they're only limited by their minds. So you still have a human to put the emotion in, but they're sitting at a computer keyboard instead of playing a real instrument. And of course you can do things with a computer that you can't with a real instrument. So why even bother playing real instruments? It seems sad to think of most music being made that way, but I wonder if it eventually will be. The computer is the instrument. This guys uses his video editing to compose. He doesn't know how to play any musical instruments at all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRoThe whole animusic series is very cool. No "real" instruments used. www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3vS3LGH5gs&feature=related |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 23, 2008 10:20:20 GMT -5
Okay, what the heck. I'm proud to be the drummer in WAKE THE GIANTS www.myspace.com/wakethegiants5 of the 8 cuts from our classic rock demo CD is online (we play about 8 originals as well) is ready to go. Our repertoire is around 45 of the greatest guitar rock songs out there. Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin, ZZ Top, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Van Halen, Steve Ray, etc....even heavy rersions of a couple of Beatles tunes. The CD hasn't been mastered....just mixed from a live-off-the-floor recording. Very few overdubs. Our goal is to play coporate events, fundraisers, private parties, pig roasts, you name it. Bar circuit? Been there...done that. My brother is singing lead, our guitarist is crazy good..and he and our bass player toured in the 70s and 80s with their own hard-rock band "Starchild" who recorded an album on Axe Records (remember "Thundermug" anyone?). We're not looking to get rich....just to get out there, share the music, and have some fun....waking the giants of classic rock. A hobby (labour of love) in the truist sense. (the bios on the site are too long and wordy....and we'll simplify) Thanks for listening. Anybody needing such a band for an event....you know how to reach me.  CH |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 23, 2008 11:46:30 GMT -5
Okay, what the heck. I'm proud to be the drummer in WAKE THE GIANTS www.myspace.com/wakethegiants5 of the 8 cuts from our classic rock demo CD is online (we play about 8 originals as well) is ready to go. Our repertoire is around 45 of the greatest guitar rock songs out there. Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin, ZZ Top, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Van Halen, Steve Ray, etc....even heavy rersions of a couple of Beatles tunes. The CD hasn't been mastered....just mixed from a live-off-the-floor recording. Very few overdubs. Our goal is to play coporate events, fundraisers, private parties, pig roasts, you name it. Bar circuit? Been there...done that. My brother is singing lead, our guitarist is crazy good..and he and our bass player toured in the 70s and 80s with their own hard-rock band "Starchild" who recorded an album on Axe Records (remember "Thundermug" anyone?). We're not looking to get rich....just to get out there, share the music, and have some fun....waking the giants of classic rock. A hobby (labour of love) in the truist sense. (the bios on the site are too long and wordy....and we'll simplify) Thanks for listening. Anybody needing such a band for an event....you know how to reach me. CH Hey, thats sounds pretty good!! |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 23, 2008 22:00:47 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jun 24, 2008 17:49:40 GMT -5
Okay, what the heck. I'm proud to be the drummer in WAKE THE GIANTS www.myspace.com/wakethegiants5 of the 8 cuts from our classic rock demo CD is online (we play about 8 originals as well) is ready to go. Our repertoire is around 45 of the greatest guitar rock songs out there. Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin, ZZ Top, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Van Halen, Steve Ray, etc....even heavy rersions of a couple of Beatles tunes. The CD hasn't been mastered....just mixed from a live-off-the-floor recording. Very few overdubs. Our goal is to play coporate events, fundraisers, private parties, pig roasts, you name it. Bar circuit? Been there...done that. My brother is singing lead, our guitarist is crazy good..and he and our bass player toured in the 70s and 80s with their own hard-rock band "Starchild" who recorded an album on Axe Records (remember "Thundermug" anyone?). We're not looking to get rich....just to get out there, share the music, and have some fun....waking the giants of classic rock. A hobby (labour of love) in the truist sense. (the bios on the site are too long and wordy....and we'll simplify) Thanks for listening. Anybody needing such a band for an event....you know how to reach me. CH You grew up in Pardoville - did they name the town after your famiily?  I used to watch History Bites from time to time on Global, I think. Is it still on basic cable? |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 25, 2008 1:00:05 GMT -5
You grew up in Pardoville - did they name the town after your famiily? I used to watch History Bites from time to time on Global, I think. Is it still on basic cable? Pardoville's not a town....it's about a two-mile region along Highway 3 near Chatham, Ontario. Pardo families owned many farms in succession years ago. Now just my parents and my cousin are the only Pardos down there. Our farm has been in the family since 1838. History Bites was never on Global. It originated on History Television...and is now on the Comedy Network daily. I'm the guy who does all the impressions...Regis, Letterman, Cherry, etc. I'm also happy to be involved in the new "Bob and Doug McKenzie" cartoon series, which WILL be on Global in January 2009. I'll be voicing a couple of lead characters as well as various smaller roles. I've heard that Fox has picked up the series as well. Lots of fun. |
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Post by franko on Jun 25, 2008 5:45:04 GMT -5
I'm the guy who does all the impressions...Regis, Letterman, Cherry, etc. Love the show; now even more reason to watch it . . . and now I can claim to know a celebrity! [waiting to hear your cover of "Walk This Way"] |
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Post by cigarviper on Jun 25, 2008 16:08:09 GMT -5
We're not looking to get rich.... Well I am. Any ideas? I never asked, Ron, do you get a chance to write any material for HB? Or is that like an electrician doing some plumbing on a jobsite employing plumbers? |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 25, 2008 16:29:07 GMT -5
We're not looking to get rich.... Well I am. Any ideas? ;D |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 25, 2008 18:26:29 GMT -5
We're not looking to get rich.... Well I am. Any ideas? I never asked, Ron, do you get a chance to write any material for HB? Or is that like an electrician doing some plumbing on a jobsite employing plumbers? No, the main cast didn't write anything...although we are all writers of our own material. The scripts were researched and written by a team of very talented writers who worked closely with Rick Green. The door was open for improvising a bit...but you had to stay true to the script because of the heavy content. We've done 6 one-hour specials since the series ended in 2004. The latest ones are "History Bites the Filthy, Stinking Rich" and "History Bites Sex and Power". Rick Green is a funny, clever man...and he's always got something in the works....more HB specials to come, I'm sure. History Television runs them at various times with little promo.....so you have to keep your eye out for it. The series is still on the Comedy Network daily. ------------------------------------------------- Okay...that's far too much about me. Back to the Habs........ |
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Post by clear observer on Jun 26, 2008 10:29:18 GMT -5
I sing karaoke....at home....in a locked room....and yes, I've recorded it, too.  |
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Post by clear observer on Jun 26, 2008 10:31:02 GMT -5
Okay, what the heck. I'm proud to be the drummer in WAKE THE GIANTS www.myspace.com/wakethegiants5 of the 8 cuts from our classic rock demo CD is online (we play about 8 originals as well) is ready to go. Our repertoire is around 45 of the greatest guitar rock songs out there. Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin, ZZ Top, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Van Halen, Steve Ray, etc....even heavy rersions of a couple of Beatles tunes. The CD hasn't been mastered....just mixed from a live-off-the-floor recording. Very few overdubs. Our goal is to play coporate events, fundraisers, private parties, pig roasts, you name it. Bar circuit? Been there...done that. My brother is singing lead, our guitarist is crazy good..and he and our bass player toured in the 70s and 80s with their own hard-rock band "Starchild" who recorded an album on Axe Records (remember "Thundermug" anyone?). We're not looking to get rich....just to get out there, share the music, and have some fun....waking the giants of classic rock. A hobby (labour of love) in the truist sense. (the bios on the site are too long and wordy....and we'll simplify) Thanks for listening. Anybody needing such a band for an event....you know how to reach me. CH VERY impressive. My fave track is "Whole Lotta Love"...while collectively you guys are extremely tight I was particularly impressed with the vocals and drums. WTG!! CO |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 26, 2008 15:08:00 GMT -5
Okay, what the heck. I'm proud to be the drummer in WAKE THE GIANTS www.myspace.com/wakethegiants5 of the 8 cuts from our classic rock demo CD is online (we play about 8 originals as well) is ready to go. Our repertoire is around 45 of the greatest guitar rock songs out there. Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin, ZZ Top, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Van Halen, Steve Ray, etc....even heavy rersions of a couple of Beatles tunes. The CD hasn't been mastered....just mixed from a live-off-the-floor recording. Very few overdubs. Our goal is to play coporate events, fundraisers, private parties, pig roasts, you name it. Bar circuit? Been there...done that. My brother is singing lead, our guitarist is crazy good..and he and our bass player toured in the 70s and 80s with their own hard-rock band "Starchild" who recorded an album on Axe Records (remember "Thundermug" anyone?). We're not looking to get rich....just to get out there, share the music, and have some fun....waking the giants of classic rock. A hobby (labour of love) in the truist sense. (the bios on the site are too long and wordy....and we'll simplify) Thanks for listening. Anybody needing such a band for an event....you know how to reach me. CH VERY impressive. My fave track is "Whole Lotta Love"...while collectively you guys are extremely tight I was particularly impressed with the vocals and drums. WTG!! CO Thanks CO. Any chance we'll hear those karaoke tapes? |
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Post by cigarviper on Jun 26, 2008 17:03:36 GMT -5
Yeah, Youtube or it didn't happen.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 26, 2008 18:41:17 GMT -5
Okay, what the heck. I'm proud to be the drummer in WAKE THE GIANTS www.myspace.com/wakethegiants5 of the 8 cuts from our classic rock demo CD is online (we play about 8 originals as well) is ready to go. Our repertoire is around 45 of the greatest guitar rock songs out there. Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin, ZZ Top, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Van Halen, Steve Ray, etc....even heavy rersions of a couple of Beatles tunes. The CD hasn't been mastered....just mixed from a live-off-the-floor recording. Very few overdubs. Our goal is to play coporate events, fundraisers, private parties, pig roasts, you name it. Bar circuit? Been there...done that. My brother is singing lead, our guitarist is crazy good..and he and our bass player toured in the 70s and 80s with their own hard-rock band "Starchild" who recorded an album on Axe Records (remember "Thundermug" anyone?). We're not looking to get rich....just to get out there, share the music, and have some fun....waking the giants of classic rock. A hobby (labour of love) in the truist sense. (the bios on the site are too long and wordy....and we'll simplify) Thanks for listening. Anybody needing such a band for an event....you know how to reach me. CH Nice collection, CH. I'm listening to "Pride and Joy" right now. Ever get any gigs outside of your area? Cheers. |
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