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Post by habmeister on Apr 9, 2008 16:15:17 GMT -5
the earth isn't heating up, the salmon aren't being overfished, the whales and sharks aren't being driven to extinction, there aren't too many people on the planet, we're doing a great job across the board and taking care of our home. who cares if we're extincting species, i'm sure a meteor will crash into the earth with new dna and everything will be just fine. the price of rice is increasing you say?! what from 5 cents a cup to 7 cents? the sky is falling! besides what do we care, it's not like any of us will be around then. i'll just do my part, i long gave up on expecting others to think about more than themselves and their next shopping trip for goods produced by child labourers. go habs go!  And yet you'll contribute more to the problem with a cross country trip (whether it be by car or plane, would matter not) to see a hockey game ala Al Gore. Save the environment and stay home and watch it on TV.  you're just jealous skilly i'd MUCH rather be there in person, even if i have to plant 100 trees when i get back to bc to make up for the flight. ;D i have a neighbour that lives right across the courtyard, 20 steps from my door. she flies an "earth" flag, i get a laugh out of it. it flies right next to her incandescent bulb, i have replaced almost every bulb in my house with flourescent as the incan burn out, she takes the bus and i rarely drive a car, according to her i should take the bus or a taxi, to which i said are taxi's less polluting than my car? i will buy a hybrid when this car burns out, i may even get a scooter because they're just fun. i said to her she should move to a cheaper area and take the money she saves and spend it on saving the environment. i don't have the belief that i should stop doing everything, i think we can all do something, as much as we can, because it's just being conscious, so i walk more, which is good for the gut, haven't been over 192lbs since. what pisses me off is the people that just talk the talk and don't walk the walk. the earth lady as i call her says i'm a bad person because i have a car, which i need to do business efficiently. but she can have her whole house lit up and who would say boo to her? i don't expect my parents to change anything, but i do know that people my age and the younger generations are more conscious about what they're doing on a daily basis. that is all i ask from anyone, is just to do a bunch of little things rather than just one big thing. i'm just more conscious now, i turn off my computers at night when i go to bed, but i don't unplug every appliance, i recycle, but sometimes i throw a piece of paper in the garbage, i bring my old clothes to the spca instead of putting the in the dumpster. these are just easy things that i like to do. i don't judge people when they don't want to do anything, that's on their own conscience. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 9, 2008 17:37:47 GMT -5
I just recently applied on a job as "Water Resource Engineer" for this province. Wish me luck. But, yes there is a big water problem in this country. Not sure that I'd relate it to climate change or global warming. Although the theory could be "that flash floods cause erosion and thereby chemicals are seeping into the water table more quickly than before". I know I am on a well at my house. I won't drink it ... way to much manganese in the water. But another problem with exporting our water is that American water quality guidelines are different than Canadian water quality (for drinking) guidelines. Newfoundland is chock full of fresh water. I'd say per-capita maybe (speculation) the most in the country, and we still have communities that can not drink their water supplies. The summers (and sometimes winters) are full of boil orders ... ... something needs to be done. I will admit I have been out of province for four years, so my information, besides being anecdotal may also be out of date. But if I recall correctly most, if not all of the boil orders in place in the province were the result of one or two reasons - either there had been a flood recently which may have contaminated the water supply, or there had been a problem with 'beaver fever'. Beaver fever, of course, is caused by certain bacteria found in mammalian fecal matter (poop) and while the beaver often gets the bum rap for it, it's usually caused by human fecal matter. Now ask yourself, how does this happen. The answer is simple. The small communities affected by 'beaver fever' are old communities with very poor and degraded infrastructure. Sewage leaks into the water supply and presto - you've got yourself a problem. Not because of lack of water supply. Because of lack of infrastructure (and while I'm ranting, because Joey sold us all down the river). Read in the paper on Monday that Newfoundland ranked third in the country in the number of boil orders last year ... behind Ontario and BC. But on a per capita basis we are way way way ahead in a bad way. There is a little more to it than poor infrastructure. Alot of these communities have NO infrastructure as they are on wells ... its the contamination of the water table itself. E-coli was a problem a few years ago ..... |
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Post by Yossarian on Apr 9, 2008 19:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jun 28, 2008 19:16:43 GMT -5
It really wasn't a pot-shot at anyone in particular, not even H&C ... just a general statement about mankind. People will complain that the other side of the coin is doing this or that and not really look at their own lives. People will stand up on a soap-box and say "do this" or "do that" to save whatever cause ... but then you look at what they themselves are doing and it is no better than anyone else. (Aside: such as eco-maniac Paul Watson. Protest the seals and use illegal propaganda to get funding to serve his environmental cause. Pollute the seas/skies doing it and not evwen bat an eyelash at other brutal animal practices like fox-hunting (*cough* McCartney/Mills *cough*), fois-gras, heck any slaughter of an animal) Everyone does something to "save the environment". Whether it be recycling, riding their bike to work, or turning the heat/lights off when not in a room.... but no one goes the full 10 yrds. People may think they are doing their part, but when it comes right down to it, if they want to do something they will - carbon footprint be damned. So if I or anyone else wants to hop on a plane and pollute the friendly skies, or buy a Hummer or some other souped up vehicle, how can I belittle their lifestyle when a) it isn't illegal, and b) I am sure there is more than enough examples in my own life that aren't "environmentally friendly". I guess if Canada can claim a water shortage, Gillette can claim an income shortage? I don't know if Canada can sell it's water surplus to the Americans in Iowa? |
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Post by franko on Jun 28, 2008 20:04:41 GMT -5
If Obama rips up NAFTA we don't have to -- wait until the price of ater hits the price of oil.
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