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Post by Bandit on Jan 6, 2004 11:08:20 GMT -5
This is not a rumour, just a thought. Now I have no idea what kind of Right handed center Gainey wants. But what about Tim Connolly. He'a a year younger than Ribs, and already has 2 40 point seasons. He's not big, but he's not Ribiero either. And it seems like Buffalo has already given up on him.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't hate Ribiero, I just think Connoly could end up being the better player, plus he's a little bigger. He's got the same hands as Ribs but better skating. And he's a righty.
Would you trade Hossa for Connoly? Do we have to give up that much to get him? More?
The whole point is to improve the team, and if we think Connoly could be better in the long run, then why not do it. Again this is not a Ribs bashing thread, but a thought that I had that IMHO would improve the team over the long run.
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Post by blny on Jan 6, 2004 11:42:01 GMT -5
His name has been bantered about before. Tim has all the tools to be a solid two way centre in this league. Likely not a number 1, but a strong number two. Many critics feel he has hit a wall in his development. True, he's got similar characteristics to Ribs (with more speed). However, I don't think trading prospects for players that make us only marginally better is the way to go. I'd rather go after Pyatt.
Both Connolly and Pyatt have struggled to meet expectations in Buffalo. If I'm going to go after someone who's struggled in his present location, I'm going to pick the guy with the characteristics my team already lacks. Pyatt is a potential power forward. Most, if not all, scouts see it. Taylor has just had trouble putting it together. He may well turn into another Kilger. Or he may be the next Bertuzzi. I think that he would be a fine addition to the second line.
Bulis - Koivu - Ryder
Pyatt - Ribs - Zednik
To me, that looks better than
Bulis - Koivu - Ryder
Dags - Connolly - Zednik
All that being said, Buffalo is going to have a steep asking price for Taylor. Pyatt, like Connolly, is still only 22. His combination of size and speed are hard to come by. The Sabres aren't going to give it away, and you can bet they'd want a premium to trade him to a division rival.
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Post by Chopper on Jan 6, 2004 12:07:03 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but BLNY I think you missed the point of Bandit's post. I don't think he's wishing or dreaming that the habs get Connoly. Getting Pyatt would have to be a pretty big deal. But if as the rumours say Connoly is available and the asking price isn't all that high this would or could potentially be an upgrade over Ribs. A small step in the right direction. Without potentially giving up much. I think it would be good if the price wasn't too high, I might think about trading Hossa for him, but as far as I know he's still suffering from Post concussion syndrome.
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Post by britten on Jan 6, 2004 15:20:52 GMT -5
We need someone to be moved so that we can improve our clearly defined positions. Trading for either of these guys would be nice, but not really needed. Connolly does not fit the teams needs very well.
Only Pyatt fits the team, and we are not going to get him unless we are prepared to pay. gainey has made it clear that we are not gonna pay much to get this right handed centerman.
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Post by PTH on Jan 7, 2004 0:07:27 GMT -5
I don't know that much about Connolly, and personnaly I'd look at getting him to upgrade on Ribs - but a GM would need a lot of guts to make that move, since Ribs is a media darling and even if he's not a complete player he'll put up numbers, and the trade will be rated by those numbers.
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Post by blny on Jan 7, 2004 8:02:23 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but BLNY I think you missed the point of Bandit's post. I don't think he's wishing or dreaming that the habs get Connoly. Getting Pyatt would have to be a pretty big deal. But if as the rumours say Connoly is available and the asking price isn't all that high this would or could potentially be an upgrade over Ribs. A small step in the right direction. Without potentially giving up much. I think it would be good if the price wasn't too high, I might think about trading Hossa for him, but as far as I know he's still suffering from Post concussion syndrome. I got Bandit's point Chopper. Bandit thinks that acquiring Connolly is an upgrade on Ribs. I'm not sold on that notion. Tim has more speed than Ribs, but that's about it. While Connolly appears to have hit a wall development-wise, Ribs is on the rise. Trading Hossa at this point for a player that doesn't really improve our standing (IMO) doesn't make sense. The mention of Pyatt was simply to point out a direction I would go in moving Hossa (if it happens). We need jam. We need size with skill. Pyatt has struggled in Buffalo no doubt. However, if I'm going to trade for a player who's struggling and had the option of Connolly or Pyatt I take Pyatt. I agree that Pyatt would be hefty price. Most scouts drool over Pyatt. Most think he's got what it takes to be the next Bertuzzi. However, I don't think that Pyatt will ever be as cheap as he could be right now. I imagine that some of Bandit's thinking here was because of BG's comment about acquiring a RH centre. My thinking is (especially since BG stated it) that anyone acquired will be a deal that doesn't send anyone out the other way. A third/fouth liner for a conditional pick type of thing. |
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Post by blaise on Jan 7, 2004 15:14:11 GMT -5
Didn't anyone notice that Connolly has been out since early October with a concussion?
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Post by blny on Jan 7, 2004 15:41:38 GMT -5
Didn't anyone notice that Connolly has been out since early October with a concussion? Yeah, but I thought I'd debate the issue anyway. |
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Post by blaise on Jan 7, 2004 17:02:15 GMT -5
Yeah, but I thought I'd debate the issue anyway. Damaged goods for sale? |
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