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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 13, 2011 11:08:45 GMT -5
A few years ago I'd have considered Kaberle, but he's more of what we have right now; skilled, but kind of small.
Phillips would be my choice also. While Kaberle is the kind of guy you'd want on the ice for a tying goal, Phillips is the kind of guy you'd want on the ice if you're trying to protect a lead. He's bigger and tougher as well. This is something we need and I wouldn't want to see Phillips go to the Bruins.
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Feb 13, 2011 11:16:18 GMT -5
A few years ago I'd have considered Kaberle, but he's more of what we have right now; skilled, but kind of small. Phillips would be my choice also. While Kaberle is the kind of guy you'd want on the ice for a tying goal, Phillips is the kind of guy you'd want on the ice if you're trying to protect a lead. He's bigger and tougher as well. This is something we need and I wouldn't want to see Phillips go to the Bruins. Cheers. This.
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Post by franko on Feb 13, 2011 12:23:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't want to see Phillips go to the Bruins. this. and Phillips will go for more than a fourth or a fifth. more than Phillips or a d-man we need someone who will go tot he front of the net and cannot be moved from there.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 13, 2011 17:13:06 GMT -5
Yeah, someone who won't just ask politely if Lucic would please step out of the crease.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 13, 2011 17:39:14 GMT -5
I wouldn't want to see Phillips go to the Bruins. this. and Phillips will go for more than a fourth or a fifth. more than Phillips or a d-man we need someone who will go tot he front of the net and cannot be moved from there. I don't know Pacioretty's status but if he does go down we're going to be hurting that much more. Bryan Murray is squarely in the driver's seat. He has the assets and teams know he wants to deal. What Gauthier has to determine is just how close he feels his team is. It wouldn't make any sense getting into a bidding war if we're not all that close but Murray could facilitate just that. It's as if he's in his own sellers' market. However, if he feels we are close then hopefully he brings in the right pieces for the right price. Easier said than done. Cheers.
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 14, 2011 15:45:03 GMT -5
Who would you rather have on the top six AK or Kovalev going into the playoffs? A bunch of fans would be happier but please lets not start going backwards. Phillips can't be worth more than a 3rd or 4th if you ask me at best. No more trades with the Leafs why would we want any of their poison. HFTO Phillips will go for much more than that. Beauchmin bought a top prospect, Phillips will bring a first round pick for sure. Several west teams desperate to make playoffs this year and don't know the east like we do, will overpay thinking they are getting Chris Phillips from yesteryear. Many rumours have western teams overpaying this trade deadline. A rumour I head and it makes sense is Kostitsyn for Cody Franson. Franson is big and physical and can move the puck. He is on pace for 10 goals this year. We may have to take on Dumont as a salary dump though.
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Post by blny on Feb 14, 2011 16:10:17 GMT -5
Interesting rumour nick. Reuinted and it feels so good? Wonder how Sergei would like his brother coming to him.
The Preds have some quality on defense, so could spare one if they thought they could get a goal scorer out of it. Dumont is 2 years removed from a twenty goal season. That said, he's been pretty healthy since going to Nashville. Staying healthy was the knock on him early. He's on pace for his lowest out put in years. Maybe he finds some rejuvanation Montreal, maybe not. He's not really on my list though.
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Post by franko on Feb 14, 2011 18:52:47 GMT -5
Alexander Sulzer and Shane O`Brien have also been mentioned as Pred possibilities . . . slight possibilities I'd say.
All three [Franson included] are good on the PP but O'Brien seems to be a Komi clone [bad penalties, slow-footed] and the other two don't use their size . . . so where's the upgrade?
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Post by HFTO on Feb 14, 2011 22:35:14 GMT -5
O'brien however is cheap as a rental and adds some physicality we are missing on the back end. To shore up the D with another body is imperative for a late pick I wouldn't mind him. What they do need however is somebody in AK"s spot but it's going to cost them unless they go the cheap route and grab Kovy back. Considering how much this team needs I'm OK with making minor moves this season and hope our D is healthy next year and go from there.
HFTO
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Post by seventeen on Feb 15, 2011 0:16:01 GMT -5
Alexander Sulzer and Shane O`Brien have also been mentioned as Pred possibilities . . . slight possibilities I'd say. All three [Franson included] are good on the PP but O'Brien seems to be a Komi clone [bad penalties, slow-footed] and the other two don't use their size . . . so where's the upgrade? You may be typecasting O'Brien. From what I'd seen with the Canucks, he's nowhere near Gill's class as an oil tanker. I'd say he's an average NHL skater. What he is, is tough and a pretty good fighter. I'd take him, but I'd like a bit more for Kostitsyn. Franson, I think I'd take even up. Born in Salmon Arm (yeah baby!), 6' 5" 213 lbs and drafted by Nashville, who seem to have a monopoly on drafting good defensemen, all add up to enough points for me.
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Post by franko on Feb 15, 2011 9:13:29 GMT -5
for sure O'Brian is no Gill, but he's no yacht either. and he is definitely tough. but penalties in the wrong spots . . . we already have Gomez for that. I think that Nashville likes him and he won't be moving.
but the Predators sure know how to pick d-men!
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 16, 2011 14:30:36 GMT -5
Garrioch has on his twitter Phillips wants to stay in Ottawa. Looks like we can scratch him off the list
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 16, 2011 14:41:18 GMT -5
for sure O'Brian is no Gill, but he's no yacht either. O'Brian is a battleship ... a tad slower than most ships, but he's steady and hard to bring down. Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 16, 2011 14:42:25 GMT -5
Garrioch has on his twitter Phillips wants to stay in Ottawa. Looks like we can scratch him off the list His family pretty much grew up there. They're settled. Cheers.
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Post by franko on Feb 16, 2011 14:52:19 GMT -5
Garrioch has on his twitter Phillips wants to stay in Ottawa. Looks like we can scratch him off the list oh Bruce you are so on top of things! for the last month they've been talking Phillips being traded at the deadline as a pure rental and that he would re-sign with the Sens come July 1. thanks for the non-news, Garrioch!
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Post by blny on Feb 16, 2011 16:23:10 GMT -5
Garrioch has on his twitter Phillips wants to stay in Ottawa. Looks like we can scratch him off the list oh Bruce you are so on top of things! for the last month they've been talking Phillips being traded at the deadline as a pure rental and that he would re-sign with the Sens come July 1. thanks for the non-news, Garrioch! So, you're the one that reads Garrioch!
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Post by jkr on Feb 16, 2011 16:39:02 GMT -5
oh Bruce you are so on top of things! for the last month they've been talking Phillips being traded at the deadline as a pure rental and that he would re-sign with the Sens come July 1. thanks for the non-news, Garrioch! So, you're the one that reads Garrioch! Ya. When franko posts about BG he isn't talking about Gainey.
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Post by franko on Feb 16, 2011 16:53:12 GMT -5
oh Bruce you are so on top of things! for the last month they've been talking Phillips being traded at the deadline as a pure rental and that he would re-sign with the Sens come July 1. thanks for the non-news, Garrioch! So, you're the one that reads Garrioch! naw, but where do you think he gets his behind-the-times info from?
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Post by blny on Feb 16, 2011 16:55:40 GMT -5
LOL ...
Kypreos is reporting that Bogosian wants out of Atlanta, and 'it's in their best interests to trade him now'.
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 16, 2011 17:27:50 GMT -5
LOL ... Kypreos is reporting that Bogosian wants out of Atlanta, and 'it's in their best interests to trade him now'. The only thing worries me about Bogosian is a young player wanting out as early as that. Maybe some other issues, possibly with him
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Post by blny on Feb 16, 2011 17:44:35 GMT -5
LOL ... Kypreos is reporting that Bogosian wants out of Atlanta, and 'it's in their best interests to trade him now'. The only thing worries me about Bogosian is a young player wanting out as early as that. Maybe some other issues, possibly with him I haven't read anything negative about his attitude. All I do know is there have been some serious clashes with the coaching staff. He's in his third season, but is only 20. Awful hard to give up on a kid with that much talent at that age. He'd require a top prospect and a high pick at least to snag.
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 17, 2011 10:23:24 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Feb 17, 2011 10:41:21 GMT -5
Saw rumors that Montreal may be scouting Columbus for Klesla and Huselius (Huseless) . A healthy Klesla is a good shot blocker, but I'm not sure he's healthy. Huselius is uber soft.
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Post by duster on Feb 17, 2011 14:37:09 GMT -5
I'd pass on both Kesla and Huselius. Bogosian is another matter. He has the potential to be a really good one. All he needs is the right environment.
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Post by blny on Feb 17, 2011 14:45:18 GMT -5
I'd pass on both Kesla and Huselius. Bogosian is another matter. He has the potential to be a really good one. All he needs is the right environment. Agreed. I'd definitely be kicking the tires there.
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Post by blny on Feb 17, 2011 18:11:53 GMT -5
Cut and paste:
Just in from the Team990, Dreger was just on and talked about the Mara trade and stated that, he believes the Habs are done on Defense and that they are going to concentrate there money on a top Forward and a top 9 forward. He believes Penner is the top forward and that Andrei Kostitsin is on his way out to Nashville for a player like Sullivan. Prob a 1st rounder and a prospect for Penner and a swap for AK and Sullivan.
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Post by franko on Feb 17, 2011 19:39:23 GMT -5
I'd take Sullivan
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Post by duster on Feb 17, 2011 19:48:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't. If that's the best deal available for AK, I'd hang on to him and trade him this summer. Sullivan has slowed down a lot and, at age 36, he's nowhere near the offensive threat he once was. He certainly doesn't make the Habs an instant contender. Besides, we already have our very own midget in DD.
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Post by franko on Feb 17, 2011 19:58:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't. If that's the best deal available for AK, I'd hang on to him and trade him this summer. Sullivan has slowed down a lot and, at age 36, he's nowhere near the offensive threat he once was. He certainly doesn't make the Habs an instant contender. Besides, we already have our very own midget in DD. 18 less games, 8 fewer points . . . on NashvilleAndre is RFA, so gotta sign him before you trade him. Sullivan is UFA and may come cheaper . . . and doesn't float as much as Andrei
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Post by blny on Feb 17, 2011 20:45:32 GMT -5
Stevie is all heart, but just too brittle. He's 36 now too. Even in a scenario of addition by subtraction, I'd rather get a body that can grind the opposition to a pulp.
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