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Post by blny on Feb 17, 2011 14:54:29 GMT -5
I'll put this up here because it may be worth nothing more than a chuckle.
Apparently Tony Marinaro on Team 990 was saying that Gomez and his agent expect the player to be moved before the dead line. Marinaro isn't exactly the greatest source, but he would be the first to come out and suggest it's actually going to happen and cite the player and agent.
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Post by Marvin on Feb 17, 2011 15:04:13 GMT -5
Yeah I heard that also. I just can't see it happening with that albatross (contract) around his neck.
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Post by Andrew on Feb 17, 2011 15:08:22 GMT -5
The only way that someone solves our contract problem is if we're also solving a contract problem of equal or greater proportion. Maybe we can fire up the Lecavalier rumours again.
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Post by jkr on Feb 17, 2011 15:17:23 GMT -5
Yeah I heard that also. I just can't see it happening with that albatross (contract) around his neck. I'd think the same thing but the Habs took it on 2 years ago & threw in a player & a prospect.  Makes me wonder - how would Marinaro know what Gomez & his agent are thinking? |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 17, 2011 16:10:01 GMT -5
Geez, I am hoping, if true, that its in a package deal for Spezza ....
Gomez, Kosty, first rounder for Spezza, Neil ....
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Post by blny on Feb 17, 2011 16:29:44 GMT -5
Skilly, I mentioned Spezza, partly in jest, in one of the other threads.
If you think about it from the Ottawa perspective, there is some merit to it. Cap hit is similar, but they get one year less of it. I'd even sweeten the pot a little, because I thought there might be more of a difference in the number of years remaining on both contracts. I'd offer them forward not named Leblanc from our pool of prospects.
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Post by HFTO on Feb 17, 2011 17:27:21 GMT -5
Well that is a possibility the one thing that worries me if Marinaro's source is accuarte what kind o feffort will we see fothcoming in the next two games from Gomez???,,as much as I'd like to see him gone can't have him sabotoging points either.
Then again he's been doing that all year
HFTO
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Post by Marvin on Feb 17, 2011 17:55:31 GMT -5
Marinaro's words were (I'm paraphrasing slightly), "the Gomez camp is convinced that he's gone by the trade deadline. I have no idea why they feel this way, maybe it's because of Deharnais' play, but they feel Gomez will be dealt."
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Post by HFTO on Feb 17, 2011 18:03:48 GMT -5
I've always said you can't blame the player but for that contract and 30 points a season it is a team killer.
You could have 2-3 players for that money or 10 DD's
Lets hope they can pull it off sensibly.
HFTO
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Post by Marvin on Feb 17, 2011 19:12:08 GMT -5
...and now Dave Stubbs (Gazette writer) and Gomez are disputing all this current rumor / Marinaro's comments.
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Post by franko on Feb 17, 2011 19:41:46 GMT -5
why would the Sens take Gomez for Spezza? they are trying to start fresh!
tor that matter, why would anyone take Gomez the way he's playing?
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Post by blny on Feb 17, 2011 20:54:36 GMT -5
It was a FWIW piece of info. I think if you throw in enough prospects/picks, you can sell it somewhat. You say we're getting a good center in return. We're getting a bunch of picks/prospects to go with what we'll be getting during the rebuild. This will accelerate the process, and before long we'll have quality young players to surround Scott with. Sure, Jason is the better player, but we won't have much to play with the next couple of years. Let's take a contract back plus a slew of assets that accelerate the process. It's Jason Spezza by himself with the garnered high picks for the next couple of years for finishing low, or Gomez plus, plus, plus, and their own picks.
Scott's having a terrible year, yes. I think wherever he is next year, he bounces back to something resembling a 60 pt season. I saw a post somewhere that said, "get rid of 11, sucks. Bring back that 91 guy." Maybe it's a Koivu curse lol.
It's all far-fetched of course. It's very complicated to get done in a week plus. It's not the type of deal PG is known for either.
Pacioretty-Spezza-Gionta
*-Plekanec-Cammalleri
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Post by Skilly on Feb 17, 2011 21:14:20 GMT -5
Plus Spezza's salary is 8M, 8M, 5M for the next three years .... Gomez's actual salary is decreasing (7.5M, 5.5M, 4.5M) so the Senators save money, and can still make the cap floor while they gut the team for a rebuild
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 18, 2011 8:34:14 GMT -5
Plus Spezza's salary is 8M, 8M, 5M for the next three years .... Gomez's actual salary is decreasing (7.5M, 5.5M, 4.5M) so the Senators save money, and can still make the cap floor while they gut the team for a rebuild It's kind of neat thinking what he'd do with Pacioretty on his line. It would be good to see a big RW for the other side, but alas ... $8 million bones  Man!! |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 18, 2011 8:38:37 GMT -5
Plus Spezza's salary is 8M, 8M, 5M for the next three years .... Gomez's actual salary is decreasing (7.5M, 5.5M, 4.5M) so the Senators save money, and can still make the cap floor while they gut the team for a rebuild It's kind of neat thinking what he'd do with Pacioretty on his line. It would be good to see a big RW for the other side, but alas ... $8 million bones Man!! I would think that if Spezza was coming here Pacioretty would be going there... Gomez and Pacioretty for Spezza? Yeesh. |
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Post by franko on Feb 18, 2011 9:01:44 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 18, 2011 9:11:41 GMT -5
It's kind of neat thinking what he'd do with Pacioretty on his line. It would be good to see a big RW for the other side, but alas ... $8 million bones Man!! I would think that if Spezza was coming here Pacioretty would be going there... Gomez and Pacioretty for Spezza? Yeesh. Well, Bruch Garrioch was speculating only last week about Phillips to Montreal (how'd you make out on that Bruce) and how he expected Bryan Murray to land Pacioretty in return. I don't know what it would take to land Spezza. Anyone's tradable I guess. But, it would be a major disappointment for me if Gauthier actually traded Pacioretty. I don't even like thinking about that to be honest. Cheers. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2011 16:55:47 GMT -5
If somebody takes Gomez, no doubt we'll have to pay for a chunk of his salary. No way somebody takes that contract in full.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 19, 2011 11:13:27 GMT -5
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Post by Boston_Habs on Feb 19, 2011 19:32:42 GMT -5
If somebody takes Gomez, no doubt we'll have to pay for a chunk of his salary. No way somebody takes that contract in full. I don't believe that is allowed under the CBA. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 19, 2011 21:54:10 GMT -5
If somebody takes Gomez, no doubt we'll have to pay for a chunk of his salary. No way somebody takes that contract in full. I don't believe that is allowed under the CBA. Not monetarily ... but usually the team "pays" by sending the team taking on the contract picks/prospects |
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Post by Mad Max on Feb 20, 2011 17:31:51 GMT -5
For what it's worth, RDS just reported during the pre-game show that Gomez's name has been circulating in Phoenix. They didn't mention (or maybe I missed it) what could be heading the other way. What do you guys think?
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Post by Skilly on Feb 20, 2011 17:44:45 GMT -5
For what it's worth, RDS just reported during the pre-game show that Gomez's name has been circulating in Phoenix. They didn't mention (or maybe I missed it) what could be heading the other way. What do you guys think? Phoenix? I can't see anything they have that they'd like to shed .... unless they have the cap space and just want some picks/prospects for taking on that contract |
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Post by Disp on Feb 20, 2011 19:30:44 GMT -5
Jovo, Rozsival?
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Post by jkr on Feb 20, 2011 21:09:35 GMT -5
I don't really care any more. I watch him play & just sigh with resignation. |
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Post by Disp on Feb 20, 2011 21:27:09 GMT -5
I don't really care any more. I watch him play & just sigh with resignation. Not exactly a bang for the buck type. If he made half as much he'd be easier to stomach. I'm really starting to think his salary is better spent elsewhere. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 20, 2011 23:21:33 GMT -5
Jovo is an UFA so Phoenix isnt in dire straits to shed that contract .... and while Rosival's cap number is 5 million, his salary next year is only 3 million. I can't see the logic to take on Gomez's contract to lose those two manageable contracts .... |
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 21, 2011 7:04:28 GMT -5
If PG can trade Gomez for Jovo he best get Phoenix on speed dial. Just to remove the Gomez contract lets us compete for top players like Brad Richards this summer. Too much to hope for we can get Jovo in return this season also |
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Post by jkr on Feb 21, 2011 7:45:30 GMT -5
If PG can trade Gomez for Jovo he best get Phoenix on speed dial. Just to remove the Gomez contract lets us compete for top players like Brad Richards this summer. Too much to hope for we can get Jovo in return this season also I must be a glutton for punishment but I just looked at his stats again. I could accept his 29 points more easily if his overall game was OK. But he is -18.  |
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Post by franko on Feb 21, 2011 8:59:00 GMT -5
does that include all the goals scored against us while he was in the penalty box after taking stupid penalties at the end of the game?
I was ruing taking him over Gionta but just looked and saw Gio has only 2 more points -- though he is only a minus 1.
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