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Wiz
Jun 25, 2011 9:36:34 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Jun 25, 2011 9:36:34 GMT -5
Gauthier travaille présentement sur un dossier. Je serais pas surpris qu'il veuille refiler les droits de Wisniewski et + pour un 2e choix. - Marc Antoine Godin
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Wiz
Jun 25, 2011 10:06:06 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 25, 2011 10:06:06 GMT -5
I understand that to say that PG has received an offer of a second rounder for his rights. Is that right? I rather have Wizniewski than the pick. We should be getting younger on D. Not trading Wizniewski & signing Gill. Jeez.  |
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Wiz
Jun 25, 2011 10:23:45 GMT -5
Post by franko on Jun 25, 2011 10:23:45 GMT -5
has he been given a realistic bona-fide offer? has he refused it because he is going to check out the market?
OK, take the pick. with exclusive rights the team will overpay if they really want him [more than the Habs would be willing to pay]; if he doesn't take the offer because it isn't enough we see what the market will be and go after him again July 1.
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Wiz
Jun 25, 2011 10:37:30 GMT -5
Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2011 10:37:30 GMT -5
^^^
That.
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Wiz
Jun 25, 2011 10:46:19 GMT -5
Post by HFTO on Jun 25, 2011 10:46:19 GMT -5
As much as I want to keep him I'd take the pick as well better than seeing him walk..in this case they should have floaedt him an offer to see what it may take.
HFTO
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Wiz
Jun 25, 2011 12:17:30 GMT -5
Post by Cranky on Jun 25, 2011 12:17:30 GMT -5
Wait a minute....
We haven't signed him even though I assume that we already made him a decent offer, but we refuse a second rounder?
Great asset management!
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Wiz
Jun 25, 2011 14:54:21 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 25, 2011 14:54:21 GMT -5
Wait a minute.... We haven't signed him even though I assume that we already made him a decent offer, but we refuse a second rounder? Great asset management! I haven't seen anything about offers to Wizniewski. How much & for how long? |
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 8:47:11 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Jun 27, 2011 8:47:11 GMT -5
If we could sign Wiz for around 4 million a year I would resign him and probably traded Gorges for another high first round pick. And/or packaged Gorges with a center and prospect for true #1 center.
The team changed for the good when we acquired Wiz. He added grit and offense from the blueline. Without a #1 center goals scored will have to increase and best way, at this point, will be from the blueline. Unless PG trades Gomez and dips in the free agent market for Richards or somebody who can score. Which I doubt.
The Habs have tried to balance scoring across three lines, last year and back when they traded for Bonk and it does not work out. Instead of taking offensive players who aren't good enough top six minutes and try to milk a few extra goals out of the team. Best to keep either the physical line or the energy line and go with two offensive lines. Get the extra goals created from the blueline
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 11:29:09 GMT -5
Post by Patty Roy on Jun 27, 2011 11:29:09 GMT -5
I understand that to say that PG has received an offer of a second rounder for his rights. Is that right? I rather have Wizniewski than the pick. We should be getting younger on D. Not trading Wizniewski & signing Gill. Jeez. No i understood that to say PG was shopping Wiz's rights for a 2nd rounder but couldn't find any takers. |
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 11:33:55 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 27, 2011 11:33:55 GMT -5
I understand that to say that PG has received an offer of a second rounder for his rights. Is that right? I rather have Wizniewski than the pick. We should be getting younger on D. Not trading Wizniewski & signing Gill. Jeez. No i understood that to say PG was shopping Wiz's rights for a 2nd rounder but couldn't find any takers. Thanks Patty. If he's trying to do that then he probably has no intention of signing him. |
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 11:41:36 GMT -5
Post by Patty Roy on Jun 27, 2011 11:41:36 GMT -5
Thanks Patty. If he's trying to do that then he probably has no intention of signing him. I wouldn't be surprised if Wiz's demands on the Habs at this point is close to $5 million per on a longterm deal. I think that more than anything else is why PG has turned the page. It's probably a longshot, but maybe we could try to trade his rights to Detroit for the rights to Jonathan Ericsson? |
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 12:43:10 GMT -5
Post by 24in93 on Jun 27, 2011 12:43:10 GMT -5
I'd love for the Habs to keep Wiz but the money that's been mentioned makes me think someone else will pay it. Wiz at $4M or more is an overpayment imo.
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 13:00:44 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 27, 2011 13:00:44 GMT -5
Thanks Patty. If he's trying to do that then he probably has no intention of signing him. I wouldn't be surprised if Wiz's demands on the Habs at this point is close to $5 million per on a longterm deal. I think that more than anything else is why PG has turned the page. It's probably a longshot, but maybe we could try to trade his rights to Detroit for the rights to Jonathan Ericsson? A couple of Hockeybuzz writers (Eric Engels, Andy Strickland) mentioned Detroit as a possible destination for him. |
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 16:04:52 GMT -5
Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 27, 2011 16:04:52 GMT -5
I'd love for the Habs to keep Wiz but the money that's been mentioned makes me think someone else will pay it. Wiz at $4M or more is an overpayment imo. Bieksa just re-signed in Vancouver for 5 years, $23m, for an average cap hit of $4.6m. Probably a good comp for Wiz. Bieksa is older (30 years old, vs 27 for Wiz) and probably isn't as good a point-getter as Wisniewski, but arguably a better all around dman and plays a nastier game. Wiz should get between $4-5m. |
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 16:15:00 GMT -5
Post by 24in93 on Jun 27, 2011 16:15:00 GMT -5
And someone will likely give it to him but I doubt it will be PG.
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 16:43:15 GMT -5
Post by ValkyrieNS on Jun 27, 2011 16:43:15 GMT -5
And someone will likely give it to him but I doubt it will be PG. I agree. It seems that PG is going out of his way to tick me off... Very unhappy Val over here. It actually brought me out of my self-inflicted seclusion. I'm now going away again until they sign my boyfriend to a long-term deal. |
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Wiz
Jun 27, 2011 21:35:38 GMT -5
Post by 24in93 on Jun 27, 2011 21:35:38 GMT -5
If your boyfriend is the guy in your avatar, he didn't receive a qualifying offer today....
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 8:08:59 GMT -5
Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2011 8:08:59 GMT -5
If your boyfriend is the guy in your avatar, he didn't receive a qualifying offer today.... I see you missed a few episodes of The Boys of Val's LifeIn the last installment, Victor and Stefano ... of wait, wrong show ;D.... she's a Josh swooner now. |
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 8:14:59 GMT -5
Post by 24in93 on Jun 28, 2011 8:14:59 GMT -5
LOL it's hard to keep up. I don't think she'll have to worry about Josh leaving then.
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 9:07:43 GMT -5
Post by franko on Jun 28, 2011 9:07:43 GMT -5
her favourite colour is fickle.
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 17:46:59 GMT -5
Post by ValkyrieNS on Jun 28, 2011 17:46:59 GMT -5
If your boyfriend is the guy in your avatar, he didn't receive a qualifying offer today.... I know, I actually yelled at the sportscaster who had the nerve to inform me thereof... If your boyfriend is the guy in your avatar, he didn't receive a qualifying offer today.... I see you missed a few episodes of The Boys of Val's LifeIn the last installment, Victor and Stefano ... of wait, wrong show ;D.... she's a Josh swooner now. Hardy har har... And believe it or not, Josh has been the man for close to one entire year now. Will wonders never cease? BLNY has assured me that JG will only go away if we have the foolish nerve to trade him away... at which point I will cry  her favourite colour is fickle. It's purple actually. And hey, just read your sig block. Are you sure you're not Mr. Val? He does not like JM either  |
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 18:33:38 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Jun 28, 2011 18:33:38 GMT -5
Lots of sites saying Bruins will try to sign Wiz
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 18:45:27 GMT -5
Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 28, 2011 18:45:27 GMT -5
her favourite colour is fickle. The Zinger Machine is in mid season form today. |
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 20:00:55 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2011 20:00:55 GMT -5
Lots of sites saying Bruins will try to sign Wiz Wouldn't that be a real kick in the teeth. JW killing the Habs on the PP while wearing a Bruins uniform. PG trades a second for him & now doesn't appear to want to re-sign him. Gauthier is too busy putting together the oldest D in the league. |
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 20:01:07 GMT -5
Post by Yossarian on Jun 28, 2011 20:01:07 GMT -5
Lots of sites saying Bruins will try to sign Wiz If that happens, it will sting almost as much as the Bruins winning in 7 on an OT goal, and then going on to win the Cup. It cannot happen!!! |
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 20:04:55 GMT -5
Post by franko on Jun 28, 2011 20:04:55 GMT -5
Are you sure you're not Mr. Val? He does not like JM either how can you even consider putting the word "like" in the same sentence as "JM"? |
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Wiz
Jun 28, 2011 20:42:32 GMT -5
Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 28, 2011 20:42:32 GMT -5
With Pitkanen re-signing, the Wiz will be in huge demand on Friday. A draft pick for exclusive rights to chat to him would not hurt my feelings right now. If Goat thinks that Markov can stay healthy, Subban will continue to develop into a star, and guys like Diaz/Weber and eventually Beaulieu will all bring offense from the back end, then I guess letting a valuable asset walk is understandable...but not for nothing.
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Wiz
Jun 29, 2011 11:09:40 GMT -5
Post by Marvin on Jun 29, 2011 11:09:40 GMT -5
As I said in the Hamrlik thread, I really don't understand the fascination with Wiz. He's a one-dimensional player, and weak defensively. There's a reason that he's played on 4 teams in such a short time.
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Wiz
Jun 29, 2011 13:49:03 GMT -5
Post by Marvin on Jun 29, 2011 13:49:03 GMT -5
According to Eklund, Wiz's rights have been traded to Columbus.
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Wiz
Jun 29, 2011 13:59:07 GMT -5
Post by duster on Jun 29, 2011 13:59:07 GMT -5
According to Eklund, Wiz's rights have been traded to Columbus. Confirmed on Canadiens.com. A 7th round pick in 2012 and future considerations |
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