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Post by blny on Oct 24, 2011 19:55:32 GMT -5
www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi111021.htmlGetting less ice time than previous seasons, he just scored his first goal of the year tonight. He can play an offensive role, and he can check. He's not yet 30. He's a LW. Yah, he prone to terrible penalties, but he's a physical presence and durable. He's something we could really use. His cap hit is $4.2 million and he makes $3.7 million this year and $3.2 in the last year. What would you offer? What do you think it would take?
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Post by HFTO on Oct 24, 2011 22:54:04 GMT -5
Always like Hartnell making too much but who isn't on this team at least he give us a much needed missing element that could score 10-15...but this is the nice skill habs were talking about..... I wouldn't hold your breathe even if he was free.
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Post by blny on Oct 25, 2011 5:55:11 GMT -5
I'm not holding my breath either. His cap hit is a bit much, but the contract was front-loaded. His actual salary is more or less in line with what he should be making. He's also a consistent 25g 45-50pt man.
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Post by jkr on Oct 25, 2011 7:43:21 GMT -5
Is Philly up against the cap? Would they trade him for a pick to get some relief?
If so, I'd consider it.
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Post by habsfaninphx on Oct 25, 2011 11:25:58 GMT -5
Not PG's type of player, at alllllllllll.  |
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Post by blny on Oct 25, 2011 13:46:55 GMT -5
Is Philly up against the cap? Would they trade him for a pick to get some relief? If so, I'd consider it. Not sure what they'd want. It would be worth a call to find out though. |
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Post by GNick99 on Oct 28, 2011 8:22:49 GMT -5
Wait and see what happens with Markov before we make any major trades. If he can come back, if he close to what he was before the knee surgeries. Let Markov play a month or two then see what team needs and who we can trade also
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Post by blny on Oct 28, 2011 9:36:48 GMT -5
A healthy Markov helps in other areas and maybe makes one of our smaller dmen expendable. It doesn't address issues up front though, and if a deal can be made to add a Hartnell-like piece I don't think Markov's status should enter the equation.
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Post by Patty Roy on Oct 29, 2011 8:38:14 GMT -5
I don't see how we can fit him in...he's making top 2 line money, but he wouldn't play infront of Cammalleri or Pacioretty.
I'm all for adding size and grit to the lineup but i don't think that's going to happen on the top 2 line wing spots...in a perfect world we find a big guy down the middle to take Gomez spot on the top 2 lines (Gomez to Hamilton) and one or two big wingers to play on the bottom 6.
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Post by blny on Oct 29, 2011 17:08:59 GMT -5
It would all depend on what the Flyers would take back. Would they take Kostitsyn? Hartnell would likely get 3rd line minutes and PP time. It's a highish caphit, but his salary drops over the next few years of the deal.
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Post by Patty Roy on Oct 29, 2011 23:00:06 GMT -5
It would all depend on what the Flyers would take back. Would they take Kostitsyn? Hartnell would likely get 3rd line minutes and PP time. It's a highish caphit, but his salary drops over the next few years of the deal. That doesn't sound like a deal the Flyers would make. I've actually been pretty happy with AK so far this season. |
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Post by GNick99 on Oct 30, 2011 9:52:21 GMT -5
A healthy Markov helps in other areas and maybe makes one of our smaller dmen expendable. It doesn't address issues up front though, and if a deal can be made to add a Hartnell-like piece I don't think Markov's status should enter the equation. Hang off there on trades, see what level Markov can play at. Team might need a top 3 defenseman later on this season if he can't play at his level or knee goes down again. Wingers are last you want to add, strenght up the middle make the team better. You want the team strongest up the middle first. |
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Post by blny on Oct 30, 2011 17:48:17 GMT -5
It would all depend on what the Flyers would take back. Would they take Kostitsyn? Hartnell would likely get 3rd line minutes and PP time. It's a highish caphit, but his salary drops over the next few years of the deal. That doesn't sound like a deal the Flyers would make. I've actually been pretty happy with AK so far this season. ... but we know that isn't going to last. If the Flyers are looking to save some money, and not be committed beyond this year, the deal makes sense. |
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Post by blny on Oct 30, 2011 17:49:49 GMT -5
A healthy Markov helps in other areas and maybe makes one of our smaller dmen expendable. It doesn't address issues up front though, and if a deal can be made to add a Hartnell-like piece I don't think Markov's status should enter the equation. Hang off there on trades, see what level Markov can play at. Team might need a top 3 defenseman later on this season if he can't play at his level or knee goes down again. Wingers are last you want to add, strenght up the middle make the team better. You want the team strongest up the middle first. They only way we're adding a center is if we trade and/or demote one. I don't see it happening. Hartnell is another big forward willing to use his size. He'll make room out there for our small centers like Cole and Pacioretty do. |
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Post by GNick99 on Nov 1, 2011 2:01:01 GMT -5
Hold off on the trades until we see what we have to work with and what our most important need is. Unless it is a minor move for a bottom pairing, hardnosed defenseman or a physical back line forward. Or something great falls to us, another team panics and we have to act while we have the chance but doubt it will happen. Let the season go a little bit, see how the team plays together and if they gel, once close to healthy. I've seen before a lot can change in a few months. Teams will cool off a bit and more open to make trades, more players become available. What looks right now can be totally different around St. Paddy's day than it is Halloween.
Habs pretty well has it wingers on top 2 lines anyway.That's what they signed Cole for last summer. Trading for Hartnell either him or somebody else be back on the third line, just a waste. Talent be playing 13-14 minutes a game instead of 17-18 minutes. Pacioretty and Cole should be in top 2 lines for sure. Gionta scored 30 goals last year and hardest worker on team. Cammarelli and Kostitsyn. I would trade Cammarelli but like to keep him as he plays well in the playoffs. Kostitsyn be most likely to go but his return will not be as good as Cammarelli. Could trade Kostitsyn later on to fill some lesser holes. Like for a tough forward or physical defenseman or part of a package for top 3 defenseman or a top center. Even if Markov returns and plays good wouldn't hurt politics none if we could add a top flight defenseman. Like to keep the defense as good as can get it. Having Gorges as #4 that is a great defense.
As it looks now could use a top center but might not need it. Like chance to see how Eller develops this season and how Leblanc performs in AHL. They may be able to score enough to add depth make up the difference. Eller never had a camp due to injuries and there is a chance. Leblanc could mature in the A and a good call up in March/Playoff time. I like that calling up a top prospect late in the season who is having a good year down on the farm. First noticed it year we called up Chelios, I said what is this, he was a big part taking a nothing team deep into players. For some reasonit seems to be a bigger shot in the arm to team than it should be. Did it one year with Larry Robinson also. Won a Cup in Chicago, he was solid in playoffs scored a big overtime goal against Philly. Claude Lemieux did it one year, scored some key goals. Dryden did it one year, been many others to a lesser extend. Subban a couple of years back played good replacing Markov against Pittsburgh. If I was a GM something would use more.
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Post by Polarice on Nov 1, 2011 6:59:26 GMT -5
I think I would rather someone like Gillies who we can pick up on waviers without having to trade for someone.
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