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Iglina
Nov 27, 2011 15:32:47 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Nov 27, 2011 15:32:47 GMT -5
Hotstove debating last night if Jarome will be traded. Should the Habs make an offer if he is indeed on the market?
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Iglina
Nov 27, 2011 17:10:59 GMT -5
Post by Disp on Nov 27, 2011 17:10:59 GMT -5
Someone will over pay, I'd rather it not be us. He's not the same Iginla he used to be.
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Iglina
Nov 27, 2011 17:49:47 GMT -5
Post by CentreHice on Nov 27, 2011 17:49:47 GMT -5
Somebody with more depth and a lot closer to needing a final piece should make a move for him. The people they'd trade would open up the cap space.
Dallas could use a little boost.
San Jose, maybe?
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Iglina
Nov 27, 2011 19:27:17 GMT -5
Post by blny on Nov 27, 2011 19:27:17 GMT -5
Sun media is trying to connect the Stars to the Flames. New ownership in big D, and Iggy having been drafted by them are the reasoning.
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Iglina
Nov 27, 2011 19:49:02 GMT -5
Post by seventeen on Nov 27, 2011 19:49:02 GMT -5
Iggy instead of AK, for example? Doesn't sound bad to me, but as Disp says, the cost will be high, though Jarome's shelf life is expiring, so he shouldn't cost as much as they might get.
I'd consider AK, Weber (just so I can breathe easier) and a prospect not called Beaulieu.
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Iglina
Nov 27, 2011 19:55:56 GMT -5
Post by blny on Nov 27, 2011 19:55:56 GMT -5
CBC made the comparison to a trade from last year. I can't remember what trade. Whatever the return, it should be a lot. This is Feaster's chance to put his stamp on the future of the club. He's gotta get max value.
IMO, the cost will be too high. I like Iggy a lot. Really. But at 34, I'm just not prepared to mortgage things for him.
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Iglina
Nov 27, 2011 22:11:35 GMT -5
Post by Skilly on Nov 27, 2011 22:11:35 GMT -5
Iggy instead of AK, for example? Doesn't sound bad to me, but as Disp says, the cost will be high, though Jarome's shelf life is expiring, so he shouldn't cost as much as they might get. I'd consider AK, Weber (just so I can breathe easier) and a prospect not called Beaulieu. Do we have the cap room to make a deal like that? I'd offer Cammy (6 million) for Iginla (7 million)
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 5:05:26 GMT -5
Post by GNick99 on Nov 28, 2011 5:05:26 GMT -5
Iggy instead of AK, for example? Doesn't sound bad to me, but as Disp says, the cost will be high, though Jarome's shelf life is expiring, so he shouldn't cost as much as they might get. I'd consider AK, Weber (just so I can breathe easier) and a prospect not called Beaulieu. Do we have the cap room to make a deal like that? I'd offer Cammy (6 million) for Iginla (7 million) That'd be last deal I would offer. They worked well together in Calgary. But I think I would pass on Ignila also. He is getting up there in age and the price to acquire would be huge. Could probably get Bobby Ryan what Ignila cost
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 7:48:09 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 28, 2011 7:48:09 GMT -5
The factors I see:
a. Will acquiring Iginla put us over the top or just closer to the top?
b. Will Gauthier be able to free up the cap space?
c. What would Calgary ask for in return?
d. Looking down the road, how many good years does Jerome have left in the tank?
Cheers.
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 9:21:21 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on Nov 28, 2011 9:21:21 GMT -5
If we would make a play for Iggy, then Gomez has to be going somewhere, either another trade or to the minors, we can't afford both.
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 12:22:25 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 28, 2011 12:22:25 GMT -5
If we would make a play for Iggy, then Gomez has to be going somewhere, either another trade or to the minors, we can't afford both. Clearing Gomez's salary off the books would open the door for a quite a few options, not only Iginla. Cheers.
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 12:24:31 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 28, 2011 12:24:31 GMT -5
I also read a tweet on another board that Gomez and his agent were to meet with Gauthier this morning. Not sure about what or if the tweet is legit.
Cheers.
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 14:42:38 GMT -5
Post by Polarice on Nov 28, 2011 14:42:38 GMT -5
I also read a tweet on another board that Gomez and his agent were to meet with Gauthier this morning. Not sure about what or if the tweet is legit. Cheers. Talking about a trade to NYI again.
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 20:30:31 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 28, 2011 20:30:31 GMT -5
I also read a tweet on another board that Gomez and his agent were to meet with Gauthier this morning. Not sure about what or if the tweet is legit. Cheers. Talking about a trade to NYI again. Didn't they mention that on the Hotstove? I'm really not sure if that's where I heard it. Cheers.
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Iglina
Nov 28, 2011 22:23:54 GMT -5
Post by IamCanadiens on Nov 28, 2011 22:23:54 GMT -5
I don't think Iggy would include the Habs on a list of teams he'd go to. He is a die hard Flame and the only thing he didn't do for them was lift the Cup. If he left Calgary it would be for a team with a legit shot at the Holy Grail not a team out of the playoff picture
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Iglina
Nov 29, 2011 19:50:51 GMT -5
Post by HFTO on Nov 29, 2011 19:50:51 GMT -5
Well Gomez would have to be dumped or traded but you'd think if Iginla accept to come, the Flames would want a little of everything but most importantly youth...... and how much can this team afford to give up..I'd say not too much.
HFTO
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Iglina
Dec 1, 2011 21:49:26 GMT -5
Post by Disp on Dec 1, 2011 21:49:26 GMT -5
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Iglina
Dec 1, 2011 22:11:57 GMT -5
Post by franko on Dec 1, 2011 22:11:57 GMT -5
need the details, as "some" aren't twitter followers
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Iglina
Dec 1, 2011 22:38:25 GMT -5
Post by Disp on Dec 1, 2011 22:38:25 GMT -5
@marbec12 @j_Habs Flames are talking with Iginla after the game.. They would never "DISRESPECT" Jarome and pull him from game
@j_Habs Names i have are what was told 2me as "FRAMEWORK" - If Iginla approves obviously things go in motion more names added or deleted etc
*ALERT* More is coming back from Flames (if Iginla approves deal) so Habs fans lets calm down.. Just names i "HEARD" as framework of deal
**UPDATED NHL NEWS**Source: Proposed Canadiens deal for Iginla has more parts on both ends - Montreal may be getting a pick + another player
@realkazak Nobody said IGINLA accepted deal! PLEASE DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY TWEET! Iginla still needs 2approve deal - Flames asking 2night
@jrhardie Yes this is a new deal - #Habs sweetened the pot with an extra player still trying 2get the name (Could be salary)
**BREAKING NHL NEWS**Source: Names i have so far are Weber / Pacioretty & 1st rd pick (Another player also in it) Iginla still must approve
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:03:38 GMT -5
Post by Skilly on Dec 2, 2011 8:03:38 GMT -5
@marbec12 @j_Habs Flames are talking with Iginla after the game.. They would never "DISRESPECT" Jarome and pull him from game @j_Habs Names i have are what was told 2me as "FRAMEWORK" - If Iginla approves obviously things go in motion more names added or deleted etc *ALERT* More is coming back from Flames (if Iginla approves deal) so Habs fans lets calm down.. Just names i "HEARD" as framework of deal **UPDATED NHL NEWS**Source: Proposed Canadiens deal for Iginla has more parts on both ends - Montreal may be getting a pick + another player @realkazak Nobody said IGINLA accepted deal! PLEASE DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY TWEET! Iginla still needs 2approve deal - Flames asking 2night @jrhardie Yes this is a new deal - #Habs sweetened the pot with an extra player still trying 2get the name (Could be salary) **BREAKING NHL NEWS**Source: Names i have so far are Weber / Pacioretty & 1st rd pick (Another player also in it) Iginla still must approve Better not be Pacioretty .... salvaging this season is not worth that. I do have a news flash for the "Twits" anyway. Weber+Pacioretty is not enough to cover the salary unless Markov is done for the year. Even if the "other player" is Gomez, I don't include Max.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:06:23 GMT -5
Post by The New Guy on Dec 2, 2011 8:06:23 GMT -5
@marbec12 @j_Habs Flames are talking with Iginla after the game.. They would never "DISRESPECT" Jarome and pull him from game @j_Habs Names i have are what was told 2me as "FRAMEWORK" - If Iginla approves obviously things go in motion more names added or deleted etc *ALERT* More is coming back from Flames (if Iginla approves deal) so Habs fans lets calm down.. Just names i "HEARD" as framework of deal **UPDATED NHL NEWS**Source: Proposed Canadiens deal for Iginla has more parts on both ends - Montreal may be getting a pick + another player @realkazak Nobody said IGINLA accepted deal! PLEASE DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY TWEET! Iginla still needs 2approve deal - Flames asking 2night @jrhardie Yes this is a new deal - #Habs sweetened the pot with an extra player still trying 2get the name (Could be salary) **BREAKING NHL NEWS**Source: Names i have so far are Weber / Pacioretty & 1st rd pick (Another player also in it) Iginla still must approve Please no - no interest in giving up Patches for Iggy.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:09:30 GMT -5
Post by blny on Dec 2, 2011 8:09:30 GMT -5
I third that motion. I'd be pissed off if Max was dealt for Iggy.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:10:30 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 2, 2011 8:10:30 GMT -5
@marbec12 @j_Habs Flames are talking with Iginla after the game.. They would never "DISRESPECT" Jarome and pull him from game @j_Habs Names i have are what was told 2me as "FRAMEWORK" - If Iginla approves obviously things go in motion more names added or deleted etc *ALERT* More is coming back from Flames (if Iginla approves deal) so Habs fans lets calm down.. Just names i "HEARD" as framework of deal **UPDATED NHL NEWS**Source: Proposed Canadiens deal for Iginla has more parts on both ends - Montreal may be getting a pick + another player @realkazak Nobody said IGINLA accepted deal! PLEASE DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY TWEET! Iginla still needs 2approve deal - Flames asking 2night @jrhardie Yes this is a new deal - #Habs sweetened the pot with an extra player still trying 2get the name (Could be salary) **BREAKING NHL NEWS**Source: Names i have so far are Weber / Pacioretty & 1st rd pick (Another player also in it) Iginla still must approve Good find, Disp. Will be interesting to know if it pans out. Cheers.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:15:50 GMT -5
Post by blny on Dec 2, 2011 8:15:50 GMT -5
FWIW, there's absolutely no chatter about this on hfboards that I can see. Not the Habs board. Not the Flames board. Not even the Trade Rumours forum. Any idea WHO these tweets are from?
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:32:03 GMT -5
Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 2, 2011 8:32:03 GMT -5
Thje only way I would ever consider trading Pacioretty is if the deal includes Gomez. Getting rid of Gomer is #1 priority. Iginla is old and only valuable to a team that's contending for a cup right now, (Hab's don't apply).
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:33:17 GMT -5
Post by blny on Dec 2, 2011 8:33:17 GMT -5
We can get rid of Gomez without trading Max. It's called Hamilton lol.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 8:35:38 GMT -5
Post by jkr on Dec 2, 2011 8:35:38 GMT -5
FWIW, there's absolutely no chatter about this on hfboards that I can see. Not the Habs board. Not the Flames board. Not even the Trade Rumours forum. Any idea WHO these tweets are from? There's a guy on Twitter with the name - the-creasy. Tons of chatter about this on his site. But trading Pacioretty for one plus years of a 34 year old to a team with no legitimate Cup aspirations is sheer idiocy.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 11:18:35 GMT -5
Post by Disp on Dec 2, 2011 11:18:35 GMT -5
Got these rumors from "Incarcerated Bob". He's called a few trades before.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 11:32:37 GMT -5
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 2, 2011 11:32:37 GMT -5
I'm very leery about internet rumours. Tweets can be very helpful, but without knowing who the source is it's very hard to know whether the tweet is legit or if it's just someone trying to rile Habs fans up. And they do target Habs fans.
Cheers.
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Iglina
Dec 2, 2011 11:47:34 GMT -5
Post by blny on Dec 2, 2011 11:47:34 GMT -5
I'm very leery about internet rumours. Tweets can be very helpful, but without knowing who the source is it's very hard to know whether the tweet is legit or if it's just someone trying to rile Habs fans up. And they do target Habs fans. Cheers. Exactly. I follow Lebrun, MacKenzie, etc. Not a peep from them. Of course, none of that means there isn't talk, or some form of fact, to the rumor. Just means it's not from a recognized 'Insider'.
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