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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 11:07:53 GMT -5
twitter.com/#!/PentonKirk Winnipeg beat reported, Kirk Penton, has spotted PG in New Jersey. Montreal doesn't play NJD til Feb 2, and the Jets Feb 5. I doubt PG would go just to advance scout a team for an upcoming game. I wonder who he's looking at ...
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 17, 2012 11:29:57 GMT -5
I wonder who he is offering up...
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 11:33:49 GMT -5
My money is on Moen/Kostitsyn. Moen fits the mold of the player the Devils like. Kostitsyn would add some good secondary scoring, and might even have chemistry with Kovalchuk.
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Post by Polarice on Jan 17, 2012 11:50:46 GMT -5
My money is on Moen/Kostitsyn. Moen fits the mold of the player the Devils like. Kostitsyn would add some good secondary scoring, and might even have chemistry with Kovalchuk. What if it's Kovalchuk he's looking at? But, my money is on Clarkson. |
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Post by Marvin on Jan 17, 2012 12:02:07 GMT -5
My money is on Moen/Kostitsyn. Moen fits the mold of the player the Devils like. Kostitsyn would add some good secondary scoring, and might even have chemistry with Kovalchuk. What if it's Kovalchuk he's looking at? But, my money is on Clarkson. I realize that Clarkson is having a career year as far as goals go, but in giving up Kostitsyn you give up a pretty skilled player. You'd want at least someone similar in return, unless you're going to bring up someone from the minors. |
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 12:03:03 GMT -5
LOL I don't think he's looking to add that sort of contract, and I don't think the Devils are looking to part with it.
Clarkson is nice, but I don't think the Devils are looking to subtract. They're in the thick of it, and should be looking to add a piece or two and get some playoff revenue.
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 17, 2012 13:28:16 GMT -5
Talking points/rumours/hearsay....
Randy Tieman on TSN990 is talking that PG might be shopping Subban. Yeah, and he might be shopping anybody.
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Post by BadCompany on Jan 17, 2012 13:31:42 GMT -5
Who says it's the Devils? Winnipeg also played in Ottawa last night.
Just for grins and giggles I looked up Winnipeg's farm team's schedule. They played two games in Scranton this weekend, and they play in Connecticut on Friday. Both Scranton and Connecticut are within a three hours drive of New Jersey. In one week, with rather minimal travel Gautier could have seen the Jets play twice, and the Ice Caps three times.
Blake Wheeler and Patrice Cormier for...
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 13:35:01 GMT -5
Talking points/rumours/hearsay.... Randy Tieman on TSN990 is talking that PG might be shopping Subban. Yeah, and he might be shopping anybody. Yah, I saw someone elsewhere say that Marinaro mentioned this in connection to Kovalchuk lol. |
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 13:36:50 GMT -5
Who says it's the Devils? Winnipeg also played in Ottawa last night. Just for grins and giggles I looked up Winnipeg's farm team's schedule. They played two games in Scranton this weekend, and they play in Connecticut on Friday. Both Scranton and Connecticut are within a three hours drive of New Jersey. In one week, with rather minimal travel Gautier could have seen the Jets play twice, and the Ice Caps three times. Blake Wheeler and Patrice Cormier for... Perhaps, but I keep looking at it from the perspective of removing players. With the Devils in at this point, and given some of the people we'd like to remove, I see them as a more apt trade partner. I'm sure the Jets would like to make a splash and get in the playoffs in their first year though. |
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Post by Polarice on Jan 17, 2012 13:55:45 GMT -5
From what I'm hearing the Habs are not sellers......so if we ain't selling then NJ must be. Or like Calgary, a sideways move.
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 14:01:43 GMT -5
Why am I not surprised?
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Post by CentreHice on Jan 17, 2012 14:06:48 GMT -5
If PG is "buying" with teams in a playoff position....why would they be selling? Unless PG gets totally fleeced....and Lou's just the man for that job.
Normand FLynn said this morning that he's scared that PG still has the job....
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 14:10:45 GMT -5
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Post by Polarice on Jan 17, 2012 14:17:33 GMT -5
People are saying that if GM's are meeting face to face its not gonna be a minor trade. They do that on the phone.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 17, 2012 14:38:08 GMT -5
From what I'm hearing the Habs are not sellers....... That is concerning. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 17, 2012 14:40:40 GMT -5
People are saying that if GM's are meeting face to face its not gonna be a minor trade. They do that on the phone. The only way this could be positive if it frees up cap space long term. The inability to be strategic sellers will be the legacy of the Gainey/Gauthier era. In no year has it been more appropriate than this season. |
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Post by Polarice on Jan 17, 2012 14:49:31 GMT -5
From what I'm hearing the Habs are not sellers....... That is concerning. Yep...if we are gonna tank, this is the year. I guess PG figures if the Habs make the playoffs, he'll keep his job. |
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Post by Skilly on Jan 17, 2012 14:50:33 GMT -5
Who says it's the Devils? Winnipeg also played in Ottawa last night. Just for grins and giggles I looked up Winnipeg's farm team's schedule. They played two games in Scranton this weekend, and they play in Connecticut on Friday. Both Scranton and Connecticut are within a three hours drive of New Jersey. In one week, with rather minimal travel Gautier could have seen the Jets play twice, and the Ice Caps three times. Blake Wheeler and Patrice Cormier for... Scranton played 2 games in St. John's this weekend And please , please , please, ... do NOT get Cormier. The two worst players on the IceCaps are Kendall McArdle and Patrice Cormier. McArdle can't do anything, Cormier is good on the face-offs, but that's it ... |
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Post by BadCompany on Jan 17, 2012 14:54:38 GMT -5
Uhhhh.... d'oh? THAT... is why I am not an investigative reporter.  |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 17, 2012 19:09:05 GMT -5
Yep...if we are gonna tank, this is the year. I guess PG figures if the Habs make the playoffs, he'll keep his job. We are a better team than our record. So, to me, getting value for pending UFAs, getting a high draft pick, trading a vet for a good prospect, freeing up cap space are all proactive and responsible steps that will ensure our bounce back will be quick. Making this team worse going forward to MAYBE make the playoffs and get blown out in the first round is irresponsible. RC has already made the games better viewing. That's a good first step. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jan 17, 2012 19:44:48 GMT -5
Devils are in financial caca (not cap trouble but true financial trouble, NHL is on the virge of taking on the franchise...). So simply put they simply can't afford Kovalchuck who's set to make 11MM in salary next year.
Habs are one of the very few team in the league that can afford such an albatros.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit to see Ilya land here. Not one bit.
Gomez and whatever for Kovalchuck. Do you do it?
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Post by habsfaninphx on Jan 17, 2012 20:30:47 GMT -5
Sell high and trade Subban. I'm wondering if we could swing Parise for him.
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Post by HFTO on Jan 17, 2012 20:47:51 GMT -5
Doc that is a very interesting dilema trading two huge contracts one with 2 yrs the other with 15 years ....the Habs are on the hook for a lifetime but they get an 80 pt guy for say 5 plus years and actually pocket 700k in the short term.
Instantly they have the pure sniper they crave and need and increase their size once again..... NJ has a shot to sign Parise long term and if I'm Lou I try and get Gallagher in the deal as well to appease the Jersey fans.
If such a deal existed I don't think PG would hesitate...he's shown he's not afraid to take on contracts and Jersey simply can't afford this deal.
Honestly in the next 5-7 years it's a lot better than the Gomez deal... where it hurts you is in the last 7 years if Kovalchuk doesn't have the same DNA as a Temmu Selanne.
HFTO
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2012 21:14:41 GMT -5
Devils are in financial caca (not cap trouble but true financial trouble, NHL is on the virge of taking on the franchise...). So simply put they simply can't afford Kovalchuck who's set to make 11MM in salary next year. Habs are one of the very few team in the league that can afford such an albatros. I wouldn't be surprised one bit to see Ilya land here. Not one bit. Gomez and whatever for Kovalchuck. Do you do it? An interesting scenario. |
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Post by HFTO on Jan 17, 2012 21:57:07 GMT -5
If that deal was out there I hope it doesn't involve PK, you can't trade d-men especially ones that have a ton of potential ...look at the mess we are in with all the patchwork on the back end.
HFTO
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Post by Skilly on Jan 17, 2012 22:03:01 GMT -5
Doc that is a very interesting dilema trading two huge contracts one with 2 yrs the other with 15 years ....the Habs are on the hook for a lifetime but they get an 80 pt guy for say 5 plus years and actually pocket 700k in the short term. Instantly they have the pure sniper they crave and need and increase their size once again..... NJ has a shot to sign Parise long term and if I'm Lou I try and get Gallagher in the deal as well to appease the Jersey fans. If such a deal existed I don't think PG would hesitate...he's shown he's not afraid to take on contracts and Jersey simply can't afford this deal. Honestly in the next 5-7 years it's a lot better than the Gomez deal... where it hurts you is in the last 7 years if Kovalchuk doesn't have the same DNA as a Temmu Selanne. HFTO I like the trade, but the only problem I see is that we are still weak down the middle and taking on Kovalchuk basically assures that we will have to live with Pleky, Desharnais, Eller down the middle for two or three years .... We'd still be without a true first line center IMO |
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Post by PTH on Jan 18, 2012 2:30:05 GMT -5
Making trades ? Sure. We suck, change is needed.
Not being outright sellers ? Fair enough if we're rebuilding/retooling (see Cammalleri trade).
I'd have prefered all youth/picks, but retooling is OK.
But not being "sellers" more than "buyers" when it's clear that the playoffs are a pipe dream ? That's not OK.
I want Grigorenko.
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Post by duster on Jan 18, 2012 14:51:54 GMT -5
Making trades ? Sure. We suck, change is needed. Not being outright sellers ? Fair enough if we're rebuilding/retooling (see Cammalleri trade). I'd have prefered all youth/picks, but retooling is OK. But not being "sellers" more than "buyers" when it's clear that the playoffs are a pipe dream ? That's not OK. I want Grigorenko. Retooling is ok but I'd rather not try to rebuild using underachievers like Bourque and Kaberle. Wasn't Pouliot last year enough of a cautionary tale? This is the year we should be going for Grigorenko. Sadly, I don't see Gauthier going in that direction. So that means more bad trades in the chase for eight place. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2012 15:16:19 GMT -5
Making trades ? Sure. We suck, change is needed. Not being outright sellers ? Fair enough if we're rebuilding/retooling (see Cammalleri trade). I'd have prefered all youth/picks, but retooling is OK. But not being "sellers" more than "buyers" when it's clear that the playoffs are a pipe dream ? That's not OK. I want Grigorenko. Retooling is ok but I'd rather not try to rebuild using underachievers like Bourque and Kaberle. Wasn't Pouliot last year enough of a cautionary tale? This is the year we should be going for Grigorenko. Sadly, I don't see Gauthier going in that direction. So that means more bad trades in the chase for eight place. Still lots of hockey to play. I don't imagine PG will get rid of some UFA contracts until closer to the deadline if the playoffs are a huge stretch. |
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