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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 31, 2012 23:04:33 GMT -5
Gillis wants more grit and rumours are Moen might be in play. He would be a good fit on that team.
tried to post link but url is strange. it was in The Province written by Gord McIntyre
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Post by blny on Feb 1, 2012 7:08:52 GMT -5
TSN ran with this last night saying he might be one of the first players dealt in the deadline period. Ruutu is expected to go this week.
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Post by jkr on Feb 1, 2012 7:36:22 GMT -5
Maybe they can get Lapierre back.  |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 1, 2012 7:58:57 GMT -5
I seen this rumour on a site before the All Star break ... also said Detroit, and Chicago were interested in Moen.
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Post by blny on Feb 1, 2012 8:38:45 GMT -5
I seen this rumour on a site before the All Star break ... also said Detroit, and Chicago were interested in Moen. TSN mentioned them as well. Chicago would be a reunion. Basically, Travis is a really good addition to any team considered to be a true contender. He can give you a bit of everything. Knack for timely goals? Check. Kill penalties? Check. Play physical and stay out of box? Check. The list goes on. He's on record as wanting to stay in Montreal, fwiw. I'd entertain talking to him on July 1. Until then, I want to maximize asset management and get something for him. I'd be extremely disappointed with anything less than a strong second round pick. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 1, 2012 10:06:13 GMT -5
I seen this rumour on a site before the All Star break ... also said Detroit, and Chicago were interested in Moen. TSN mentioned them as well. Chicago would be a reunion. Basically, Travis is a really good addition to any team considered to be a true contender. He can give you a bit of everything. Knack for timely goals? Check. Kill penalties? Check. Play physical and stay out of box? Check. The list goes on. He's on record as wanting to stay in Montreal, fwiw. I'd entertain talking to him on July 1. Until then, I want to maximize asset management and get something for him. I'd be extremely disappointed with anything less than a strong second round pick. He'll also drop the gloves once in a while. But I'm with you. He's having a strong scoring year & I'm sure a team like Vancouver, which probably anticipates a rematch with Boston, could use his skill set. Don't just let him walk. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 1, 2012 11:09:51 GMT -5
Hope he gets back soon as he is one of our more valuable trading assets leading up to the trade deadline. I too would like to see him back, but what's wrong with selling him now and making a good pitch in the off season. It's all business at this point. Asset management...something we have been a little lacking in over the years of late.
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Post by slyman on Feb 1, 2012 12:16:15 GMT -5
I really don't get this...seem's like everybody wants to get rid of Moen, when in fact, he is the only player that can actually play physically and drop the gloves once in a while...
We are one of the softest team in the league and Habs fans wnats us to get softer?? Again last night the moment Buffalo started to hit most of the players just disapeared...then you have a guy like Gaustad that laugh at the entire team knowing that no one will be there to stand up for the team...what a disgrace...
In my mind, Moen should be resigned for the next three years and get more support from Goat in the toughness department...but hey, with the current direction, I'm sure he will not want to be part of this fiasco any longer...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 1, 2012 12:26:41 GMT -5
I really don't get this...seem's like everybody wants to get rid of Moen, when in fact, he is the only player that can actually play physically and drop the gloves once in a while... We are one of the softest team in the league and Habs fans wnats us to get softer?? Again last night the moment Buffalo started to hit most of the players just disapeared...then you have a guy like Gaustad that laugh at the entire team knowing that no one will be there to stand up for the team...what a disgrace... In my mind, Moen should be resigned for the next three years and get more support from Goat in the toughness department...but hey, with the current direction, I'm sure he will not want to be part of this fiasco any longer... I was thinking the same thing, Sly. I mean, why do teams want him in the first place? He's a tireless worker and he's a big, physical winger. This is something we've lacked for years and all of a sudden he's better off playing elsewhere? If we go into a selling mode then I can see why we'd move him especially with a deep draft coming up. But, if he his moved then we have to replace his work ethic and physicality (UGH! Hate that word). Cheers. |
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Post by 24in93 on Feb 1, 2012 12:48:42 GMT -5
I really don't get this...seem's like everybody wants to get rid of Moen, when in fact, he is the only player that can actually play physically and drop the gloves once in a while... We are one of the softest team in the league and Habs fans wnats us to get softer?? Again last night the moment Buffalo started to hit most of the players just disapeared...then you have a guy like Gaustad that laugh at the entire team knowing that no one will be there to stand up for the team...what a disgrace... In my mind, Moen should be resigned for the next three years and get more support from Goat in the toughness department...but hey, with the current direction, I'm sure he will not want to be part of this fiasco any longer... I was thinking the same thing, Sly. I mean, why do teams want him in the first place? He's a tireless worker and he's a big, physical winger. This is something we've lacked for years and all of a sudden he's better off playing elsewhere? If we go into a selling mode then I can see why we'd move him especially with a deep draft coming up. But, if he his moved then we have to replace his work ethic and physicality (UGH! Hate that word). Cheers. I think White can fill in that role to a certain degree to ride out the season. He should be ready to go by the deadline. Moen is possibly our most tradeable asset right now unfortunately. Better to get something for him in this lost season. |
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Post by slyman on Feb 1, 2012 13:03:36 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing, Sly. I mean, why do teams want him in the first place? He's a tireless worker and he's a big, physical winger. This is something we've lacked for years and all of a sudden he's better off playing elsewhere? If we go into a selling mode then I can see why we'd move him especially with a deep draft coming up. But, if he his moved then we have to replace his work ethic and physicality (UGH! Hate that word). Cheers. I think White can fill in that role to a certain degree to ride out the season. He should be ready to go by the deadline. Moen is possibly our most tradeable asset right now unfortunately. Better to get something for him in this lost season. I guess that's when good asset managment from a GM is important. If PG does his job well, he signs him to a new contract now and if he can't because Moen is not interested, then you trade him to a contender...but that's only my way of thinking.. And I do love White and would play him everynight, but White is at most a good middle-weight fighter...not someone that could go toe to toe with soemone like Guaustad...I use to have a lot of respect for this guy, but what a tool after what he said last night... |
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Post by blny on Feb 1, 2012 13:10:54 GMT -5
White and Blunden can do it. Blunden has shown me quite a bit in the time he's been up. He might even have a little more offensive upside than White. Neither would keep me from re-signing Moen on Jul 1 though.
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Post by PTH on Feb 1, 2012 13:12:42 GMT -5
I think White can fill in that role to a certain degree to ride out the season. He should be ready to go by the deadline. Moen is possibly our most tradeable asset right now unfortunately. Better to get something for him in this lost season. I guess that's when good asset managment from a GM is important. If PG does his job well, he signs him to a new contract now and if he can't because Moen is not interested, then you trade him to a contender...but that's only my way of thinking.. It's my way of thinking as well. White wouldn't be a true replacement, but he could fill in as a forward for the rest of the year, and hopefully over the summer we can get someone else to fill the gap, and keep White as a middle-weight backup of sorts. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 1, 2012 13:58:56 GMT -5
I really don't get this...seem's like everybody wants to get rid of Moen, when in fact, he is the only player that can actually play physically and drop the gloves once in a while... We are one of the softest team in the league and Habs fans wnats us to get softer?? Again last night the moment Buffalo started to hit most of the players just disapeared...then you have a guy like Gaustad that laugh at the entire team knowing that no one will be there to stand up for the team...what a disgrace... In my mind, Moen should be resigned for the next three years and get more support from Goat in the toughness department...but hey, with the current direction, I'm sure he will not want to be part of this fiasco any longer... It's not that people are anxious to get rid of Moen. We know all too well the number of UFAs to be on this team that were let go for nothing & just don't want it to happen again. |
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Post by Johnny LaRondelle on Feb 1, 2012 18:51:27 GMT -5
In my mind, Moen should be resigned for the next three years and get more support from Goat in the toughness department...but hey, with the current direction, I'm sure he will not want to be part of this fiasco any longer... I would like to see him resigned but I doubt that will happen. He brings exactly what we want ..toughness with some scoring. The "Goat" will trade him for very little in return like usual.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 1, 2012 20:18:47 GMT -5
I really don't get this...seem's like everybody wants to get rid of Moen, when in fact, he is the only player that can actually play physically and drop the gloves once in a while... We are one of the softest team in the league and Habs fans wnats us to get softer?? Again last night the moment Buffalo started to hit most of the players just disapeared...then you have a guy like Gaustad that laugh at the entire team knowing that no one will be there to stand up for the team...what a disgrace... In my mind, Moen should be resigned for the next three years and get more support from Goat in the toughness department...but hey, with the current direction, I'm sure he will not want to be part of this fiasco any longer... It's not that people are anxious to get rid of Moen. We know all too well the number of UFAs to be on this team that were let go for nothing & just don't want it to happen again. Why cant the habs tell him we are trading him for assets but we want to resign him on july 1 |
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Post by blny on Feb 1, 2012 20:21:31 GMT -5
It's not that people are anxious to get rid of Moen. We know all too well the number of UFAs to be on this team that were let go for nothing & just don't want it to happen again. Why cant the habs tell him we are trading him for assets but we want to resign him on july 1 That's exactly what I'd be doing. "Travis, we want to send you to a team with a shot at winning the cup THIS year. We also want you back next year and beyond. We want you here to help us have a run even better than 2010. |
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Post by PTH on Feb 1, 2012 20:29:46 GMT -5
It's not that people are anxious to get rid of Moen. We know all too well the number of UFAs to be on this team that were let go for nothing & just don't want it to happen again. Why cant the habs tell him we are trading him for assets but we want to resign him on july 1 That's awfully risky though, if he likes his new team, he might want to stick around, and if he has a decent playoff run, maybe he wants more than whatever he expects to get from us on July 1st, and it's not like Gauthier has a reputation as being an excellent GM who finds a way for things to work out. Brian Burke, as brash as he is, could perhaps pull this off, though. |
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 2, 2012 12:16:15 GMT -5
Bob Mackenzie said on the Team 990 (paraphrasing) that both Gill and Moen were being heavily sought after.
So, would these be some comparables, from last year's deadline?
* Brad Winchester for a 3rd round pick.
* Maxim Lapierre and career minor-leaguer MacGregor Sharp for career minor-leaguer Joel Perrault and a 3rd round pick.
* Chris Higgins for C-level prospect Evan Oberg and a 3rd round pick.
* Brad Boyes for a 2nd round pick.
* Chris Kelly for a 2nd round pick.
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* Chris Campoli and a 7th round pick for Ryan Potulny and a 2nd round pick.
* Dennis Wideman for C-level prospect Jake Hauswirth and a 3rd round pick
* Bryan McCabe for depth NHL forward Tim Kennedy and a 3rd round pick
* Eric Brewer for B-level prospect Brock Beukeboom and a 3rd round pick.
* Ian White for a 2nd round pick.
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 2, 2012 12:18:18 GMT -5
Based on that I think we should expect to get AT LEAST a 3rd round pick and a mediocre prospect for either of Gill or Moen. With a bit of tough negotiating I don't see why that can't be bumped up to a late 2nd round pick for both those guys, either this year or next.
I'd do it. I like Moen, but he isn't the missing link, and as mentioned above we can always try to resign him, or someone of his ilk.
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Post by blny on Feb 2, 2012 13:35:49 GMT -5
Why cant the habs tell him we are trading him for assets but we want to resign him on july 1 That's awfully risky though, if he likes his new team, he might want to stick around, and if he has a decent playoff run, maybe he wants more than whatever he expects to get from us on July 1st, and it's not like Gauthier has a reputation as being an excellent GM who finds a way for things to work out. Brian Burke, as brash as he is, could perhaps pull this off, though. I wouldn't do this with a flashy player, who provides something hard to replace. Moen, as good as he is, is replaceable. |
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Post by blny on Feb 2, 2012 13:41:15 GMT -5
The draft is a tad thin this year after round one. I'm holding out for 2nd rounders.
Moen and Winchester are reasonable comparisons. Moen, to my knowledge, is a better special teams player though. He's also got a Cup ring that he was a pretty integral part of. IMO, that ups his value.
Campoli has little value at this point. He hasn't played much this year. If there's a team looking for cheap depth that can skate and move the puck, he's a fit. Alone, he's likely worth a 6th rounder or weak prospect. Take the pick.
Gill is the perfect playoff addition imo. No fuss, no muss. Won't cause a stir. Will come in, play a 5-7 role, kill penalties like there's no tomorrow and bring a ton of experience. He'll get away with more holds in the playoffs too. Remember how he continually got under Crosby's skin in 2010? That's what you sell. I'm hoping for a second for him as well.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 2, 2012 14:08:49 GMT -5
A 2nd, 3rd, late rounder and a prospect for those three players would be a decent return. Teams will probably also want to throw in career minor leaguers to move a contract for a contract, as many are up against the 50 contract limit.
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Post by GNick99 on Feb 2, 2012 19:04:57 GMT -5
Canucks be drafting late...I would try hard for a first. A few sleepers in this upcoming draft
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Post by seventeen on Feb 3, 2012 2:38:57 GMT -5
I think you could get a 2nd rounder for each of those guys. The main reason is that there are 6 or 7 teams that have a shot at the cup, or believe they have a shot at the cup and their GM's can almost taste it. Who cares if they give up a 2nd rounder if it gets them Lord Stanley. So I'd drive up the price with a bidding war.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 3, 2012 12:31:54 GMT -5
Moen on the IR. That sure puts a trade involving him on the backburner for a bit.
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Post by blny on Feb 3, 2012 14:17:31 GMT -5
Moen on the IR. That sure puts a trade involving him on the backburner for a bit. It does. Upper body. Hopefully he's back before the 27th. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 3, 2012 15:23:20 GMT -5
Moen on the IR. That sure puts a trade involving him on the backburner for a bit. It does. Upper body. Hopefully he's back before the 27th. Both MA Godin and Radio Canada are reporting that Coach Cunny is hoping to see him back next week sometime. He must have mentioned something in his post practice presser today. |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 3, 2012 15:27:06 GMT -5
It does. Upper body. Hopefully he's back before the 27th. Both MA Godin and Radio Canada are reporting that Coach Cunny is hoping to see him back next week sometime. He must have mentioned something in his post practice presser today. Yeah he's quoted saying it on the Habs website. |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 3, 2012 18:26:42 GMT -5
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