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Post by blny on Jul 6, 2012 21:50:00 GMT -5
While Havlat's agent Allan Walsh is shooting it down, there's some buzz about the Habs offering up Bourque and Diaz/Weber to SJ for Havlat.
Martin has a NMC, and three years left on a deal with a cap hit of $5 million. Fiscally, the deal makes sense. Production between Bourque and Havlat is not too dissimilar the last couple of years. Havlat is injury prone, but very talented.
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Post by Skilly on Jul 7, 2012 9:13:24 GMT -5
Trading Bourque would make zero sense ... its a lateral move at best. What I'd like to see is a two forwards for one package type deal to make room for the youngsters.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 7, 2012 10:17:07 GMT -5
I think the brain trust feels the youngsters won't be ready for this coming season. So unless someone surprises, the Berg has to boost that second line some other way. That may explain all the rumours about various trades. One thing the Ellis signing has done is remove some uncertainty about his contract, making it easier to keep him or trade him. I hope MG isn't too hasty as I'd like to see Eller in a few games this season before judging him expendable.
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Post by blny on Jul 7, 2012 10:31:56 GMT -5
I don't see Eller as being trade bait, but anything is possible. As for Havlat, I'd be intrigued. Marty gives you the chance for more offense than Bourque. His bad full seasons are Rene's best. That's the rub though; Marty's health. The trade, as laid out, would address an issue beyond secondary scoring. We've got a glut of defenders who are clones of one another. Putting Weber/Diaz in helps.
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Post by GNick99 on Jul 7, 2012 14:52:40 GMT -5
While Havlat's agent Allan Walsh is shooting it down, there's some buzz about the Habs offering up Bourque and Diaz/Weber to SJ for Havlat. Martin has a NMC, and three years left on a deal with a cap hit of $5 million. Fiscally, the deal makes sense. Production between Bourque and Havlat is not too dissimilar the last couple of years. Havlat is injury prone, but very talented. What injury did he have last year? |
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Post by blny on Jul 7, 2012 15:31:50 GMT -5
www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1929His injury updates are listed above. Last year was a lower body injury that cost him 39 games. He's missed long stretches with shoulder injuries during his career as well.
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Post by GNick99 on Jul 7, 2012 17:48:53 GMT -5
www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1929His injury updates are listed above. Last year was a lower body injury that cost him 39 games. He's missed long stretches with shoulder injuries during his career as well. I don't know don't want to get stuck with a bad contract. He's an older player with alot of injuries. |
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Post by blny on Jul 7, 2012 18:10:06 GMT -5
Havlat is actually younger than Bourque.
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Post by GNick99 on Jul 8, 2012 4:34:33 GMT -5
Havlat is actually younger than Bourque. Can't be...Havlat been around for long while. |
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Post by Skilly on Jul 8, 2012 6:53:28 GMT -5
Havlat is actually younger than Bourque. Bourque turns 31 in December 2012 Havlat turns 32 in April 2013 |
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Post by blny on Jul 8, 2012 9:58:48 GMT -5
Apologies. Misread when I was looking at their pages on capgeek. It's easy to forget that Bourque is north of 30 though. We wouldn't get appreciably older in the deal.
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Post by PTH on Jul 8, 2012 13:22:31 GMT -5
Well, if we're giving up Weber or Diaz along with Bourque, we are getting older.
It's just a rumor, but it makes some sense. Similar contracts, SJ knows Bourque from his time in CGY, and with some of our UFA additions losing some size to add skill isn't entirely insane.
Though I dislike the idea of getting older. I'd hope we'd get some prospect or a 3d or 4th round pick along with Havlat.
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Post by blny on Jul 8, 2012 18:04:31 GMT -5
I don't mind getting 9 mos older if we get better. Playing at their respective best, Havlat is the better player.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 8, 2012 18:25:47 GMT -5
The man has talent, no denying that. Can he stay healthy, though?
He's put in some good seasons in the past few years, but he missed 39 games last year to a lower body injury. Anyone know what that was?
Cheers.
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Post by ValkyrieNS on Jul 8, 2012 19:00:27 GMT -5
www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1929His injury updates are listed above. Last year was a lower body injury that cost him 39 games. He's missed long stretches with shoulder injuries during his career as well. The 39 games lower-body injury... isn't he the guy who wiped out getting off the bench for a line change? Tried to go over the boards and hurt himself? That was klutzy ;D |
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Post by HFTO on Jul 8, 2012 20:44:11 GMT -5
That would be a good deal IMO and gives you two solid scoring lines assuming he stays healthy but that can be said of Gio as well.
Havlat can still be almost a point a game player.Weber and Diaz are mere depth players.
HFTO
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jul 11, 2012 19:54:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't do it. I strongly believe that Bourque is bouncing back this season and Havlat is too pricey and too injury prone.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 13, 2012 8:14:02 GMT -5
Trading Bourque would make zero sense ... its a lateral move at best. What I'd like to see is a two forwards for one package type deal to make room for the youngsters. My feeling as well... A lateral move AND we pick up a heavier contract... |
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