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Post by GNick99 on Mar 8, 2013 14:19:14 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Mar 8, 2013 14:23:21 GMT -5
8 years, and $66 million www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417663Getzlaf was expected. Reports are the Perry negotiations aren't going as well. That's the bench mark for Perry. He'll want that on the open market. |
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Post by Polarice on Mar 8, 2013 14:34:16 GMT -5
8 years, and $66 million www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417663Getzlaf was expected. Reports are the Perry negotiations aren't going as well. That's the bench mark for Perry. He'll want that on the open market. If Getzlaf is making that, then Perry would have to be worth that amount as well. |
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Post by blny on Mar 8, 2013 14:39:48 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Mar 8, 2013 14:41:27 GMT -5
The players we covet are also coveted by 29 other teams. So we dream and trade, dream of trades, trade for our dreams, dream for the trade of our dreams....but in the end, we're just dreamers.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Mar 8, 2013 14:45:48 GMT -5
That's an expensive contract. The kind the owners wanted to avoid, but whatever. 8 years at $8.25 million with the cap going down next year to $64 million. That's almost 15% of the cap space tied up in one player.
I do love Getzlaf as a player, but $8.25m per year is rarefied air for a player who has delivered very good but not elite production.
And contrary to some who said that long tenor contracts would enable teams to sign their stars at lower annual cap hits.... well that isn't happening here. Anaheim is getting no break for going 8 years to Getzlaf. Those last 3 years will be a problem as well.
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 8, 2013 14:45:49 GMT -5
Perry is likely off the Habs radar at these prices. Unless we move another big contract
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Post by blny on Mar 8, 2013 14:51:26 GMT -5
It's more than I expected. I was thinking in the $7 million range. Not only do the Ducks have to think about Perry, but Ryan too (UFA in 2014).
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 8, 2013 15:01:35 GMT -5
Perry will get more as Hart Trophy winner
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Post by sergejean on Mar 8, 2013 15:29:52 GMT -5
What has the most value: 1 Getzlaf at 8.25M or 2 Pacioretty at 9M?
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Post by Skilly on Mar 8, 2013 15:55:23 GMT -5
I'd rather Perry ... But it ain't my money
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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 8, 2013 16:09:01 GMT -5
They can easily afford both:
Getzlaf is making 5.3, same as Perry, so he's getting a 3million raise. Ducks currently stand 57M, let's assume they sign Perry to the same contract they signed Getzlaf, they'll be at 63M next year. But Koivu, Lydman and Selanne are UFA, so that's 10.5 off their book So Anaheim could stand at 52.5M , with all their big guns locked up and 10M to sign 4-5 secondary players. I say they are in good shape.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 8, 2013 16:12:19 GMT -5
What has the most value: 1 Getzlaf at 8.25M or 2 Pacioretty at 9M? One Getzlaf at 8.25 or Kaberle and Gionta for 9.5  |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 8, 2013 16:17:57 GMT -5
They can easily afford both: Getzlaf is making 5.3, same as Perry, so he's getting a 3million raise. Ducks currently stand 57M, let's assume they sign Perry to the same contract they signed Getzlaf, they'll be at 63M next year. But Koivu, Lydman and Selanne are UFA, so that's 10.5 off their book So Anaheim could stand at 52.5M , with all their big guns locked up and 10M to sign 4-5 secondary players. I say they are in good shape. The question then becomes how do they afford Ryan? And I don't think they want to lose him |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 8, 2013 18:29:55 GMT -5
What has the most value: 1 Getzlaf at 8.25M or 2 Pacioretty at 9M? Chicken and omelet question....two guys can spread a lot of scoring and are harder to stop. Plus if one is injured, the next one is still available. On the other foot, a better player can give you more for any given moment on the ice. But if he Gomezes, it's SOL time. Bartender, I'll take two....... |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 8, 2013 21:36:11 GMT -5
Usually, I will go for the one elite player vs the two sub elite players. It comes down to that one guy being able to make the play you need when you need it, while the other two can't.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 9, 2013 10:31:20 GMT -5
Getzlaf sure did not give them a home team discount. That's a lot of money for him. More than I would want to pay if I wanted to field a decent four line team.
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Post by Andrew on Mar 9, 2013 16:31:38 GMT -5
And contrary to some who said that long tenor contracts would enable teams to sign their stars at lower annual cap hits.... well that isn't happening here. Anaheim is getting no break for going 8 years to Getzlaf. Agreed. The players still have a lot of leverage in these situations. With the trade deadline fast approaching, Anaheim has a small window to get value for their top two players if they're not able to re-sign them. Losing both to free agency would be devastating to the franchise, and terrible asset management. Getzlaf and agent were able to take full advantage of the situation. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 11, 2013 7:56:19 GMT -5
Usually, I will go for the one elite player vs the two sub elite players. It comes down to that one guy being able to make the play you need when you need it, while the other two can't. yup. 3 chickens cannot do the job of one beef. You need depth but you need elite as well. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 11, 2013 8:16:19 GMT -5
The Bolts were handcuffed with two large salaries in Lecavalier and St Louis. Any chance the Ducks could run into the same thing by signing both Getzlaf and Perry?
Cheers.
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Post by GNick99 on Mar 11, 2013 10:56:07 GMT -5
The Bolts were handcuffed with two large salaries in Lecavalier and St Louis. Any chance the Ducks could run into the same thing by signing both Getzlaf and Perry? Cheers. The last few years of their contracts for sure. They are much younger than Vinny and St.Louis when they signed massive deals, so won't be as bad |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Mar 11, 2013 11:09:56 GMT -5
The Bolts were handcuffed with two large salaries in Lecavalier and St Louis. Any chance the Ducks could run into the same thing by signing both Getzlaf and Perry? Cheers. The last few years of their contracts for sure. They are much younger than Vinny and St.Louis when they signed massive deals, so won't be as bad ...that's what I'm thinking as well. Anaheim will only be in Tampa's situation in 4-5 years, when they'll have big money tied up to aging players. But I guess another question to ask is regardless of cap does Anaheim have the budget...? |
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Post by sergejean on Mar 11, 2013 11:33:06 GMT -5
The last few years of their contracts for sure. They are much younger than Vinny and St.Louis when they signed massive deals, so won't be as bad ...that's what I'm thinking as well. Anaheim will be in Tampa's situation in 4-5 years, when they'll have big money tied up to aging players. But I guess another question to ask is regardless of cap does Anaheim have the budget...? Henry Samueli is worth an estimated 2.3 billion according to Forbes. He bought the Ducks for 75 million and the team now is now valued at 188 million, again according to Forbes... So he can afford to spend near the cap for sure... But will we? |
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