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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 18:39:11 GMT -5
Chicago trades 2/3 of their 4th line. The only reason is to bring up players from the farm that can do the same thing cheaper so you have $ for top 9.
Clowe may be around. Considering his season, I think his stock may be dropping a bit.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2013 18:39:35 GMT -5
That's the thing with De La Rose. It's really hard to pick a part a player's offensive upside when you get pigeon-holed into a 4th line role because of your age. TSN spoke about the massive influx of Swedes to North America. They're playing CHL hockey AND NCAA hockey because they can't get good ice time to develop at home. My hope is that the club convinces him to come over the North America. I heard someone say that because he wasn't drafted in the first round, he isn't eligible for the CHL draft so the team that drafted him, may be able to bring him over to play for Hamilton for example. Like Avtsin, though hopefully with better results.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 18:40:45 GMT -5
If McCarron does what Tinordi did, he'll play a year in NCAA and then move to the Knights. He can work on the fighting there.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2013 18:41:17 GMT -5
Did we get Brian Bickell or Turner Stevenson? Cheers. The story is that he likes to hit and tough to play against. Which means somethign adn nothing. He was a monster amongst boys, but his size differential will not mean as much as there are a 150 players in his weight range in the NHL. So now the question will be, is he mean enough and tough enough to get stronger and meaner in the NHL level? Don't get me wrong, I love big players who skate and play a mean game, but like we saw in Komi-traior, it doesn't mean they will be willing to do so day in and day out, or at all. It takes a certain internal disposition (crazy!) to raise toughness to the next level. We'll see....... And I hope he learns to fight. In the US, that doesn't happen, so he needs to learn it, hopefully under a Hunter in London.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 18:41:40 GMT -5
That's the thing with De La Rose. It's really hard to pick a part a player's offensive upside when you get pigeon-holed into a 4th line role because of your age. TSN spoke about the massive influx of Swedes to North America. They're playing CHL hockey AND NCAA hockey because they can't get good ice time to develop at home. My hope is that the club convinces him to come over the North America. I heard someone say that because he wasn't drafted in the first round, he isn't eligible for the CHL draft so the team that drafted him, may be able to bring him over to play for Hamilton for example. Like Avtsin, though hopefully with better results. That's an area of the rule book I'm unfamiliar with.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 18:42:18 GMT -5
There's a youtube video showing highlights of DLR at the WJC, but I have no idea how to place it in this post. If it's youtube, go to the top of the page where you see it's discription and copy it. Then simply hit the "insert video" button and past it. Do it and if you do it wrong, I'll correct it.
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Post by Anardil1 on Jun 30, 2013 18:44:51 GMT -5
Who the hell is Connor Crisp?
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2013 18:45:35 GMT -5
Who the hell is Connor Crisp? A new tasty snack.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 18:46:19 GMT -5
Related to Terry Crisp? lol
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 18:47:05 GMT -5
If McCarron does what Tinordi did, he'll play a year in NCAA and then move to the Knights. He can work on the fighting there. Which means 4 or 5 years before we see him in the NHL. I prefer to push harder. Put him in the AHL and he will learn in a hurry. Unless he is made of sugar, he will either progress faster or fail faster.
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Post by sergejean on Jun 30, 2013 18:47:30 GMT -5
Crisp is a goon. Playing with mcDavid... Was eligible last year but didn't get drafted. No offensive upside in his game.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 18:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2013 18:49:37 GMT -5
Found this on Lekhonen on that same verbiose site:
As we continue our way through the Draft rankings, we find another talented forward with pro hockey bloodlines at the number 30 position. Arturri Lehkonen is a Finnish born winger playing for KalPa Kuopio in the SM-Liiga, Finland’s top men’s hockey league. He’s had quite the year, putting up great offensive stats for a 17 year old playing in that league, and is only overshadowed by top Finnish prospect Aleksander Sasha Barkov in that respect. Lehkonen’s bloodlines in the SM-Liiga run deep, as both his father and uncle were stars in the league.
Lehkonen has also represented Finland at the international level. He was part of the 2013 IIHF Under 18 World Championship team that recently won a bronze medal, and even led that team in assists. In 2012 he led the Finland U18 team in goals at the same tournament. He also played for Finland in the 2013 World Junior Championships, and while that tourney was disappointing for Lekonen and the Finns, it was a good learning experience for him.
Left Wing Born Jul 4 1995 — Piikkio, Finland Height 5.10 — Weight 152 — Shoots L
Lehkonen is a talented offensive player and natural goal scorer. He has great stickhandling and the ability to beat defenders one on on one. He also has a hard and accurate wrist shot, and his lightning quick release helps him to beat goaltenders and find the back of the net. Lehkonen also has good hockey IQ, and a knack for finding the open areas of a defence. This ability allows him to set up for a one timer, which he can unleash with great results. Lehkonen is also a decent playmaker, with good passing and vision, but it is the goal scoring that he is best known for. Despite being undersized, he does work to win battles along the boards, but he will need to add a lot more upper body mass before he is effective in doing so at the next level.
Lehkonen is a very good skater. His top end speed and acceleration are excellent. He also has great edgework and agility, which allows him to get past opposing defenders, either through slick moves, or by driving wide and to the net. His great speed means that defenders need to respect this, and back off him on the rush, opening up space for him to unleash the great wrist shot. His balance is good, but he still needs to bulk up as he can be pushed off the puck at times.
In terms of style, I’d compare Lehkonen to Mike Cammalleri. His ability to find the back of the net with his great wrist shot and one timer, fits into that category of player. However, this is a style comparison only. In terms of potential, you have a potential top 6 winger who can really add a lot to his team’s powerplay if he reaches his potential.
Couldn't find the Insert command (I don't have a 2 button mouse if that's needed) but there's the link.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 18:52:22 GMT -5
Crisp is a goon. Playing with mcDavid... Was eligible last year but didn't get drafted. No offensive upside in his game. Seems like a late bloomer of sorts. He might have been eligible last year, but he only played 6 games. He played 63 games this year and scored 22 goals on the worst team in their conference (Erie). 139pims in 63 games isn't like a Jody Shelley who had over 400 in a season. There's vid on youtube and he seems like a good skater.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 18:53:20 GMT -5
I like the Lehkonen pick. He could be a better goal scoring Koivu.
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Post by PTH on Jun 30, 2013 18:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 18:56:10 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 19:02:03 GMT -5
The kid can really skate....but small.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2013 19:03:45 GMT -5
The kid can really skate....but small. Really Small. Makes Gionta look Gulliverian.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:04:18 GMT -5
Habs pick Andrighetto. This is a great later pick. He's incredibly dynamic. He was clearly their best player against Halifax in the playoffs. Elite speed. Creates as well for himself as he does for others. He's here this late because he's 5'9. He's 188lbs though. Strong on the puck. It's a Gallagher like pick. I like it a lot.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:05:05 GMT -5
Hawks do sign Bickell to 4 year deal.
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Post by Douper on Jun 30, 2013 19:05:58 GMT -5
Hawks resign Bickell
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2013 19:06:26 GMT -5
Our other 3rd rounder (I think) is Sven Andrighetto, and guess what?, I have a write-up on him too! Looks like we still haven't lost our infatuation with smurfs. This might be an old write-up or they got the years wrong. Passed over in the last two NHL Drafts, Sven Andrighetto came into the 2011-12 season with something to prove and a chip on his shoulder. The Swiss Native certainly did that, and the chances of him going undrafted a third team seem to be unlikely, from where I sit. With 31 goals and 98 points, Andrighetto led the Rouyn-Norenda Huskies to an 8th overall finish in the QMJHL. With 30 points in 14 playoff games he was absolutely dominant, and helped the Huskies all the way to the QMJHL semi final where they fell to the eventual Memorial Cup Champion Halifax Mooseheads. Still a win over Drumondville and then a major upset over the Quebec Remparts with Andrighetto leading the way earned him some serious draft hype.
Andrighetto also has plenty of international experience playing for the Swiss at various international tournaments over the years, including the last two World Junior Championships. At the lastest World Juniors, he put up 5 goals and 8 points in just 6 games.
Right Wing Born Mar 21 1993 — Zurich, Switzerland Height 5.09 — Weight 188 — Shoots Left
Andrighetto’s biggest issue is his dimunitive size. At just 5’09″ he has scared off teams in the last two drafts. However at 188 lbs, he is well built and strong on his skates, making him difficult to knock off the puck. Andrighetto is a very good skater with excellent top end speed, and very quick acceleration. He has good agility and edgework, making him shifty in the offensive zone and difficult to contain.
Andrighetto plays the point on the Huskies powerplay and he has an excellent slapshot, especially on one timers. It is hard and extremely accurate. He also has a very good wrist shot and an excellent release. Not just a one trick pony though, Andrighetto is as good a playmaker as he is a sniper, with very good vision and passing skills. Despite his size Andrighetto tries to play a gritty game and get involved in the corners, and he’s more successful than many would expect. Still the size is limiting in this aspect.
Andrighetto’s defensive game has improved, but remains a work in progress. He has trouble containing bigger opponents who can muscle through him at times. He needs better positioning as well, as he can sometimes simply lose his man. This is the biggest weakness in his game.
Andrighetto’s game can be compared to Mike Cammalleri. He plays a similar style. The potential may not be that high though. He could be an effective 2nd liner if he reaches his potential. Due to Andrighetto’s age, he can start immediately in the AHL next year and that might appeal to some NHL teams.www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g5lptNuOLUs
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 19:06:54 GMT -5
Crisp is a goon. Playing with mcDavid... Was eligible last year but didn't get drafted. No offensive upside in his game. Seems like a late bloomer of sorts. He might have been eligible last year, but he only played 6 games. He played 63 games this year and scored 22 goals on the worst team in their conference (Erie). 139pims in 63 games isn't like a Jody Shelley who had over 400 in a season. There's vid on youtube and he seems like a good skater. This is where I wonder....would we be better off getting Bordeleau, an established and top goon (almost uber) for a second? Sure he is older, but nobody questions his toughness AND he steps in right away.
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2013 19:08:29 GMT -5
I don't see why we can't do both. Crisp is years away from the NHL.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 30, 2013 19:10:03 GMT -5
looks like meh to me . . . I think I'm with Skilly: this is our future? then again, I guess that's what drafting is all about. Did you really buy the "we are building the future from the draft" when picking 25th? REALLY? Did you miss my "I don't compliment shoe tying managers?"
It's a good thread to put on your rose coloured glasses....and not much more. Exactly....at those drafting positions, it's all "wait and see". Future size and goaltending was addressed....no game-breakers...but the depth a playoff team needs. Unfortunately, it's not for the next several years. If Bergevin doesn't make a bit of splash via Free Agency/trades....we're not looking a long playoff run next season, either. We're just not deep enough. IMO.
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Post by habsask on Jun 30, 2013 19:10:46 GMT -5
Crisp is a goon. Playing with mcDavid... Was eligible last year but didn't get drafted. No offensive upside in his game. "Goon" being the operative word. Well, with what passes for hockey in the NHL these days Maybe that's what the Habs need. More & more the game appears to have become both teams trying to beat the hell out of each other, especially in the playoffs.
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Post by Douper on Jun 30, 2013 19:12:25 GMT -5
Did you really buy the "we are building the future from the draft" when picking 25th? REALLY? Did you miss my "I don't compliment shoe tying managers?"
It's a good thread to put on your rose coloured glasses....and not much more. Exactly....at those drafting positions, it's all "wait and see". Future size and goaltending was addressed....no game-breakers...but the depth a playoff team needs. Unfortunately, it's not for the next several years. If Bergevin doesn't make a bit of splash via Free Agency/trades....we're not looking a long playoff run next season, either. We're just not deep enough. IMO. Really don't see us as a playoff team anyway. Detroit is in our division now.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 30, 2013 19:12:49 GMT -5
Couldn't find the Insert command (I don't have a 2 button mouse if that's needed) but there's the link. Look at your post, I modified it. Can you see a bar on top of the post when it has a bunch of buttons? Like bold, underline, etc? In there, there is a button that looks like a movie set starter AND when your pointer lingers on it, it will say "video". If you hit that, it will give you a window where you can past the link. Otherwise, you can write out [v i d e o] and [/v i d e o]
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Post by PTH on Jun 30, 2013 19:13:04 GMT -5
Interesting, we got some guys like Fucale and McCarron who are projects, but also guys who were passed over last year like Crisp and Andrighetto who were passed over last season and might just be able to contribute sooner.
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