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Post by blny on Jun 11, 2014 18:38:04 GMT -5
Score and Yahoo are running the story. Be interesting to see what the return is. Very talented, oft injured.
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Post by christrpn on Jun 11, 2014 18:48:10 GMT -5
Murray confirmed at GM meetings. No chance for Habs, Murray wants to send him where they won't face him "every" day
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Post by blny on Jun 11, 2014 20:01:11 GMT -5
I'm not all that interested. Jason's best years are behind him I think. His body is old for 30. He's not a good two-way player. He's an interesting pickup though. His actual salary is $4 million this coming season, the last of his deal. He's got a modified NMC at this point, so he does have a say in where he goes. If you have a team with skilled wingers, and are looking for an offense first center ... It's one year at $4 million cost, $7 million cap hit.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 11, 2014 21:20:22 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 16, 2014 10:58:14 GMT -5
According to the Sun (Garrioch), the Flames have made a pitch for Spezza; however, Spezza has told the Senators that he doesn't want to play in Canada. Cheers.
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Post by franko on Jun 16, 2014 11:04:13 GMT -5
too much scrutiny, too many expectations.
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Post by blny on Jun 16, 2014 12:29:56 GMT -5
Next year would be the last year that Jason can submit a list of ten teams he won't go to. Covers all of Canada.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 16, 2014 12:36:40 GMT -5
I see him heading to Anaheim, they will have some extra cap space this summer.
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Post by blny on Jun 16, 2014 13:27:04 GMT -5
I see him heading to Anaheim, they will have some extra cap space this summer. Emerson Etem's name has bounced around a little. Could be a possible component of said deal.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 16, 2014 19:18:58 GMT -5
According to the Sun (Garrioch), the Flames have made a pitch for Spezza; however, Spezza has told the Senators that he doesn't want to play in Canada. Cheers. I guess the price of booze is too high here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 13:30:03 GMT -5
Someone will take him. Spezza had a reasonably productive year last season. It's possible that Ottawa won't get much in return for him, though, so Sens fans may not like who he's traded for (boo hoo). #PissySens
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Post by franko on Jun 17, 2014 14:28:15 GMT -5
Someone will take him. Spezza had a reasonably productive year last season. It's possible that Ottawa won't get much in return for him, though, so Sens fans may not like who he's traded for (boo hoo). #PissySens boy won't I love to hear the "we shoulda kept Spezza" whining . . . most Sens fans can't wait to cheer him gone at the airport. they really don't understand what they have. sure he makes some bonehead plays, but he's hurting and he's shifted around from line to line and doesn't get the opportunity to gel with anyone. I blame JM for trying to make him into what he isn't. let the guy play offense and he'll do well. or at least better.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 19, 2014 11:37:33 GMT -5
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 19, 2014 12:12:30 GMT -5
I blame JM for trying to make him into what he isn't. Martin coached Spezza for only the first 2 seasons (111 regular season games) of his career. Spezza's had 9 seasons without Martin behind the bench. More than enough time to be used properly…or get back to HIS game. Have the subsequent coaches used him in the same manner? Or is Spezza one of those career under-achievers?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 19, 2014 12:51:48 GMT -5
I blame JM for trying to make him into what he isn't. Martin coached Spezza for only the first 2 seasons (111 regular season games) of his career. Spezza's had 9 seasons without Martin behind the bench. More than enough time to be used properly…or get back to HIS game. Have the subsequent coaches used him in the same manner? Or is Spezza one of those career under-achievers? I don't blame Spezza one bit for wanting out ... did you guys get this from an Ottawa newspaper .... an underachiever? ... the guy is a point-a-game-player most seasons and being able to do that under Jacques Martin is an accomplishment in itself, IMHO ... and still the guy is made to feel that he is the problem in Ottawa ... he seems like he's taking all of the blame for his team's woes ... Craig Anderson and Rob Lehner can take their fair share of the blame, as can Brian Murray ... guys, I just don't think Spezza is responsible for Ottawa's current situation and I also feel he doesn't deserve the criticism he's getting from the Ottawa fans ... the team lost their identity when Alfredsson walked and they never recovered from that ... too bad Spezza wasn't in the western conference ... I'd ask about him right away ... #goodplayerCheers.
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Post by jkr on Jun 19, 2014 12:53:14 GMT -5
Does his agent have a list of teams that don't want him either?
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Post by franko on Jun 19, 2014 13:00:04 GMT -5
I blame JM for trying to make him into what he isn't. Martin coached Spezza for only the first 2 seasons (111 regular season games) of his career. Spezza's had 9 seasons without Martin behind the bench. More than enough time to be used properly…or get back to HIS game. Have the subsequent coaches used him in the same manner? Or is Spezza one of those career under-achievers? yes. Spezza underachieved / underachieves. I think it is a product of JM and Paddock tried to do with him. they wanted him to be defense-first. he wants to score goals. after all of these years he still doesn't really have the word "defense" in his vocabulary, but that has never been his role/thought [he coulda taken some lessons from Carbo]. at the same time, he has been the whipping boy in Ottawa forever. he is bounced from line to line and never really gets comfortable with his linemates. biggest problem right now, though [beyond fan expectations and his sulking]: injury. this is, though, his last season before he becomes a UFA, so he'll have something to prove so that he can get a retirement contract. Sens need to get something good back in a high-end NHL-ready player and a prospect, or they aren't going anywhere next year [caveat: Ryan wakes up].
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Post by franko on Jun 19, 2014 13:00:47 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jun 19, 2014 13:10:53 GMT -5
Does his agent have a list of teams that don't want him either? did you see the tweet from CBJ? Yeah. Quite funny.
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Post by blny on Jun 19, 2014 13:42:56 GMT -5
I may not be Spezza's biggest supporter, but it's awfully hard to lay much blame at his feet. He's virtually a ppg player in the regular season, and it doesn't fall far from that in the post season. He was arguably part of their best one two punch with Heatley. He can set up and score, which is not all that common for centers. It's usually one or the other. Give him a legit winger and he'll continue to produce like he did out of the 04-05 lockout. His back is something of a concern, but that's about the only thing that would really worry me.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 19, 2014 14:17:38 GMT -5
Does his agent have a list of teams that don't want him either? did you see the tweet? Saw this, too ... he's not popular in Ottawa and after his 'list of undesirables' went public, I can't see him winning any friends that way either ... I just find it hard to lay all of Ottawa's woes on his shoulders ... they had an overachieving goaltender when they took us out two years ago and that, along with the bully-beating they gave us, earned them a no.2 seed pre-season ranking in the conference ... when that didn't come to fruition it seemed everyone in Ottawa started looking for a scapegoat ... now he wants out and I don't blame him ... but publishing that list didn't do him any favours ... Cheers.
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Post by franko on Jun 19, 2014 14:44:23 GMT -5
like I said, he's the whipping boy . . . always his fault . . . but like BLNY says, give him someone to pass to [if only he'd stop with the behind-your-back stuff] and he'll put up points.
-26 though -- ouch -- even if he is their 2nd leading scorer. Turris did much better than I thought he would.
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Post by christrpn on Jun 20, 2014 17:41:32 GMT -5
Next year would be the last year that Jason can submit a list of ten teams he won't go to. Covers all of Canada. Which is weird because he could have left habs and leafs off the list, chosen two other teams and extended his list to 12. Sens would never terade Spezza to Habs or Leafs, maybe not even in the division.
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Post by blny on Jun 20, 2014 18:27:37 GMT -5
Next year would be the last year that Jason can submit a list of ten teams he won't go to. Covers all of Canada. Which is weird because he could have left habs and leafs off the list, chosen two other teams and extended his list to 12. Sens would never terade Spezza to Habs or Leafs, maybe not even in the division. I think it's an unofficial list of 12 because he can be pretty sure the Sens won't deal him to either.
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