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Post by CentreHice on Sept 23, 2014 21:37:50 GMT -5
Leafs beat Philly 4-0 for their second straight win over the Flyers.
Of course...Rogers Sportscentre says, "This is the first time the Leafs have been 2-0 to start the pre-season in over 10 years."...you know, when they used to make the playoffs pre-lockout.
Talk about scraping for optimism.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 23, 2014 23:25:23 GMT -5
Leafs dressed ten, perhaps 11 guys who will be in the line-up for the season. Philly also dressed 9. That's a lot from both teams for an exhibition game. I guess they're getting the regular season started early in order to get a jump on the rest of the league.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 23, 2014 23:44:08 GMT -5
That noted goon, Josh Gorges, broke Jordan Staal's leg yesterday in an exhibition game. Sounds like it was a minor kind of check along the boards, so it had to be a freak accident. That won't help Carolina
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 24, 2014 20:13:57 GMT -5
Was watching Ottawa/Toronto for a while ... what a classic ... whatever ... Sens are 65-1 to win the Cup, the Leafs 45-1 ...
Cheers.
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Post by blny on Sept 24, 2014 20:23:11 GMT -5
Meanwhile the Hockeyville game is in Sylvan Lake. Flames and Yotes are tied at 3 in the third. Haven't watched too closely. My stomach turned when the rink PA introduced MacLean and Cherry at center ice.
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 24, 2014 23:24:21 GMT -5
My stomach turned when the rink PA introduced MacLean and Cherry at center ice. "Ron and Don". National celebrity/homage built on 26 years and counting of a virtually uncontested pulpit….bullying its way with lies, bigotry, English-Canadian rhetoric, etc. MacLean could've debated Don into national embarrassment on many occasions….but he quickly chose to dumb it down and get hit with Cherry pies. I'm sure they do a lot of good out there in hockey land (booked by their agents)….I'm just continuing to rail at the "uncontested" element of the show…and all the excuses, apologies, and protection afforded to Cherry by HNIC and MacLean over the years. It's that unchecked mechanism that has made him the star he is. Ethics and integrity be damned. All the way to the bank, baby…. |
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Post by blny on Sept 25, 2014 6:01:25 GMT -5
My stomach turned when the rink PA introduced MacLean and Cherry at center ice. "Ron and Don". National celebrity/homage built on 26 years and counting of a virtually uncontested pulpit….bullying its way with lies, bigotry, English-Canadian rhetoric, etc. MacLean could've debated Don into national embarrassment on many occasions….but he quickly chose to dumb it down and get hit with Cherry pies. I'm sure they do a lot of good out there in hockey land (booked by their agents)….I'm just continuing to rail at the "uncontested" element of the show…and all the excuses, apologies, and protection afforded to Cherry by HNIC and MacLean over the years. Ethics and integrity be damned. All the way to the bank, baby…. I was thinking about it last night. Something definitely changed in the culture at CBC right around, or just after, the 1994 lockout. To that point, MacLean more or less held Cherry to task, and Cherry was toned down. As the league moved toward mob rule and thuganomics, the CBC let Cherry off the leash and the whole product began to pander to the knuckle draggers. Not long after that, it became all about the Leafs - or whoever the Canadiens were playing. |
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Post by CentreHice on Sept 25, 2014 7:35:09 GMT -5
Good points, blny. I think the turning point was just before that….during the 1993 playoffs….when Cherry brought fellow K-towner Doug Gilmour into the studio after his OT goal in Game 1 of the St. Louis series (Round 2) and the "kiss" happened….with Cherry proclaiming Dougie as the best hockey player in the world.
The Leafs had gone through a woeful 80s decade…and had missed the playoffs in 3 of the 4 previous years.
As he had associated himself with Orr's success…he did the same with Gilmour's goal that night. The kiss (at the height of Leaf emotion at the time) officially anointed Cherry as #1 Leaf fan…and he hasn't let up on that image since. (He tried the same kind of shtick with Kadri after his hat-trick in Ottawa.)
It would've been career suicide for MacLean to be harshly critical of Don following the "Dougie" show. And so the uncontested pulpit was in full swing…with MacLean the enabler. (Yes, he's objected to the completely outrageous…but nothing has made him quit Coach's Corner.)
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Post by franko on Sept 29, 2014 8:59:46 GMT -5
hadn't realized that Gomez signed on with the Devils again. if they're looking to the past, why not sign Marty up for one more kick at can?
I think that Lou has lost his touch.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 29, 2014 16:28:09 GMT -5
They might try calling Scott Stevens and Scott Neidermayer. Relive the glory days?
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Post by blny on Sept 29, 2014 16:45:28 GMT -5
... and Holik! lol 17, you may be on with the 93 playoffs thing. At the time, I thought it somewhat innocent. Sort of like Subban giving McGuire a kiss after ousting Boston this Spring. I don't like to give Cherry credit for forethought and intelligence, but anything is possible lol.  |
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Post by 24in93 on Sept 29, 2014 20:20:27 GMT -5
Gomer potted two last night against Philly. Equaling his average in the league the last three years. Too bad it's only preseason Scott.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 11, 2014 23:20:04 GMT -5
Leafs get schooled by the Pens. Bruins lose 4-0 at home to the Caps. Season's off to a great start.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 12, 2014 2:10:22 GMT -5
I agree, CH. The Kings have only 1 point out of their first two games and the Avalanche have lost both. I wonder how hard it would be to get Carolina's first rounder this year. It will be a good one.
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Post by jkr on Oct 12, 2014 6:27:17 GMT -5
Leafs get schooled by the Pens. Bruins lose 4-0 at home to the Caps. Season's off to a great start. Someone tossed a jersey on the ice at the ACC. Only 2 games in. Too funny.  That pudgy Kessel was a -1 last night. Just saying. |
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 12, 2014 7:47:14 GMT -5
Many comments on Leaf boards citing soft goals allowed by Bernier. Some actually calling for Reimer once again. Fickle bunch. |
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Post by blny on Oct 12, 2014 11:34:43 GMT -5
Lots of guys and teams stumbling out of the gate.
The Leafs are playing two young defenders every night. Combine that with the overrated Phaneuf and guys like Lupul and Kessel who don't back check, and you have the potential to give up a lot of goals. Bernier hasn't been great. He needs to stand on his head for them to have a shot night in night out.
Boston had some decent scoring chances yesterday, but Holtby was equal to the task. Caps PP was full marks. All that said, I think Boston is going to struggle to score. If you can keep Marchand and Lucic under wraps, you're going to blank them. After the aging Chara and Seidenberg, you've got a thin defense. Krug is dangerous at both ends. Hamilton is still very young.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 12, 2014 11:51:05 GMT -5
Sportsnet is all over the Leafs early season failures ... they're micro-dissecting the team and it gets the majority of coverage ... oh yeah, little to no Ontario-born players (actually there's five on their current roster) ... how either becomes a national story is beyond me ... short story; whenever I go into the grocery store I always look for a buddy of mine, a Bruins fan, who works there ... ever since the Habs eliminated the Bruins last spring he's been very distant ... as of today (or last night's results maybe) he totally avoids me ... his reaction earlier this morning reminded of how some of the Bruins players reacted to being eliminated ... but, still, it's not a reaction I'd expect from a grown adult; someone who is about my age ... getting rid of Jack Edwards would be a start ... to Bruins fans he comes across as an exulted hockey authority ... to me he's a self-absorbed master of his domain who focuses on the only two teams in the league (for him) the Bruins and the Habs ... in that context it's understandable where (my friend) gets his attitude from ... [/rant]
Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 12, 2014 11:59:00 GMT -5
Lots of guys and teams stumbling out of the gate. The Leafs are playing two young defenders every night. Combine that with the overrated Phaneuf and guys like Lupul and Kessel who don't back check, and you have the potential to give up a lot of goals. Bernier hasn't been great. He needs to stand on his head for them to have a shot night in night out. Boston had some decent scoring chances yesterday, but Holtby was equal to the task. Caps PP was full marks. All that said, I think Boston is going to struggle to score. If you can keep Marchand and Lucic under wraps, you're going to blank them. After the aging Chara and Seidenberg, you've got a thin defense. Krug is dangerous at both ends. Hamilton is still very young. Add Soderberg into that mix ... he's moved up to 2nd-line duty I think ... the Leafs? ... it's too bad but I think Carlyle's days might be in countdown mode right now ... it's certainly not his fault and, as an outsider looking in, I think the Leafs will have to sort out their leadership first and foremost ... too many passengers at the present time ... that may change, but I can't see it being a permanent change, not until they sort out that leadership core ... that's the world according to Garp Dis, anyway ... Cheers. |
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Post by blny on Oct 12, 2014 12:53:08 GMT -5
Lots of guys and teams stumbling out of the gate. The Leafs are playing two young defenders every night. Combine that with the overrated Phaneuf and guys like Lupul and Kessel who don't back check, and you have the potential to give up a lot of goals. Bernier hasn't been great. He needs to stand on his head for them to have a shot night in night out. Boston had some decent scoring chances yesterday, but Holtby was equal to the task. Caps PP was full marks. All that said, I think Boston is going to struggle to score. If you can keep Marchand and Lucic under wraps, you're going to blank them. After the aging Chara and Seidenberg, you've got a thin defense. Krug is dangerous at both ends. Hamilton is still very young. Add Soderberg into that mix ... he's moved up to 2nd-line duty I think ... the Leafs? ... it's too bad but I think Carlyle's days might be in countdown mode right now ... it's certainly not his fault and, as an outsider looking in, I think the Leafs will have to sort out their leadership first and foremost ... too many passengers at the present time ... that may change, but I can't see it being a permanent change, not until they sort out that leadership core ... that's the world according to Garp Dis, anyway ... Cheers. There's certainly disarray from top down. Within the locker room, until they get a real leader in there they're on repeat. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 12, 2014 13:07:01 GMT -5
Not enough talent on that Leafs team (yet) and it's not built as a team, but as a group of individuals. They could use Bergevin (but they're not getting him)
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 12, 2014 15:10:41 GMT -5
Not enough talent on that Leafs team (yet) and it's not built as a team, but as a group of individuals. They could use Bergevin (but they're not getting him) Call it a light bulb moment, but this makes sense to me, 17 ... I remember Brian Burke trying to make an immediate impact in Toronto by signing a few FAs, most notably, Mike Kommisarek ... Leaf fans everywhere were lauding Burke for knowing "how to build a hockey team" ... however, what I remember Burke for is how the media started the Burke-to-Toronto rumours two years in advance of Burke getting there ... and they were promptly there to hold the door for him when he was made to leave in disgrace ... they're doing this with Detroit's Mike Babcock now ... the TO media is starting to speculate why Babcock has yet to sign with Detroit and, of course, the answer is that the Leafs would be interested ... whatever ... Cheers. |
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Post by GNick99 on Oct 12, 2014 16:27:04 GMT -5
Sportsnet is all over the Leafs early season failures ... they're micro-dissecting the team and it gets the majority of coverage ... oh yeah, little to no Ontario-born players (actually there's five on their current roster) ... how either becomes a national story is beyond me ... short story; whenever I go into the grocery store I always look for a buddy of mine, a Bruins fan, who works there ... ever since the Habs eliminated the Bruins last spring he's been very distant ... as of today (or last night's results maybe) he totally avoids me ... his reaction earlier this morning reminded of how some of the Bruins players reacted to being eliminated ... but, still, it's not a reaction I'd expect from a grown adult; someone who is about my age ... getting rid of Jack Edwards would be a start ... to Bruins fans he comes across as an exulted hockey authority ... to me he's a self-absorbed master of his domain who focuses on the only two teams in the league (for him) the Bruins and the Habs ... in that context it's understandable where (my friend) gets his attitude from ... [/rant] Cheers. I just hope Leafs don't end up with McDavid |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 12, 2014 16:52:14 GMT -5
Sportsnet is all over the Leafs early season failures ... they're micro-dissecting the team and it gets the majority of coverage ... oh yeah, little to no Ontario-born players (actually there's five on their current roster) ... how either becomes a national story is beyond me ... short story; whenever I go into the grocery store I always look for a buddy of mine, a Bruins fan, who works there ... ever since the Habs eliminated the Bruins last spring he's been very distant ... as of today (or last night's results maybe) he totally avoids me ... his reaction earlier this morning reminded of how some of the Bruins players reacted to being eliminated ... but, still, it's not a reaction I'd expect from a grown adult; someone who is about my age ... getting rid of Jack Edwards would be a start ... to Bruins fans he comes across as an exulted hockey authority ... to me he's a self-absorbed master of his domain who focuses on the only two teams in the league (for him) the Bruins and the Habs ... in that context it's understandable where (my friend) gets his attitude from ... [/rant] Cheers. Don Cherry ranted on last night about the Leafs problem is that they didn't draft any Canadians last year (he named another team too, to compare Toronto too, sort of implying do we really want to be like them?) Anyhow, he was upset that the Leafs didn't draft a big Canadian boy, Nick Ritchie, in the first round .... And of course went on to imply Nylander ran home crying to Sweden. He implied Ritchie was NHL ready and Anaheim think so too, but not Toronto. How many games has Ritchie played in the NHL? Same number as Nylander, but that doesn't mean anything. The king of contradiction reigns supreme. |
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 12, 2014 22:01:06 GMT -5
I read that Cherry was also complaining about having only 5 minutes for CC. Ha!
Oh well….the parade's back on: The Leafs drove Lundqvist from the net after 6 goals in the first 35:00 minutes.
Go figure.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 13, 2014 1:40:29 GMT -5
I was watching on City TV this saturday (PVR) and I saw Coach's Corner come on. Treated it like a commercial and fast forwarded to the start of the period. I'm really not interested any more in what he has to say. Bye, Don. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 13, 2014 9:53:48 GMT -5
Just heard Corey Landsberg from TSN talking about the Leafs after their win in New York. "They're still not a good team. As bad as the the Leafs looked against Pittsburgh on Saturday, the Rangers looked twice as bad against the Leafs on Sunday."Nice to hear a Toronto-based sports commentator, other than Bob McCown, value truth over interest. RE: Cherry. Even if he IS being phased out, how can he possibly complain? He'll be 81 in February. He's built a veritable empire and can continue to cash in on his Rock 'em Sock 'em DVDs and his lucrative speaking engagements (anywhere from $30,000 to $50,000 according to one speaker's agency that books him) til the end of his days. |
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Post by jkr on Oct 13, 2014 13:08:39 GMT -5
Watching Bruins / Avs on free preview with the Edwards/Brickley team. The Avs have had two PPs - one was embellished and on the other the Colorado player sold it according to Brickley.  |
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 13, 2014 14:04:20 GMT -5
Seidenberg just got away with a rule-change penalty.
He dove, got the puck first, but the took the feet out from under the Av player afterwards with his upper arm, shoulder.
The Av player looked at the ref, expecting a call as per the new rule. Nope.
Shades of grey or shades of black-and-gold?
1-1 tie in the third period. Shouldn't matter.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 13, 2014 14:18:07 GMT -5
RE: Cherry. Even if he IS being phased out, how can he possibly complain? He'll be 81 in February. He's built a veritable empire and can continue to cash in on his Rock 'em Sock 'em DVDs and his lucrative speaking engagements (anywhere from $30,000 to $50,000 according to one speaker's agency that books him) til the end of his days. In Southern Ontario, perhaps. I'm skewed of course. He'd have to pay me to get me to waste an hour of my time. |
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