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Post by franko on Oct 20, 2014 14:01:34 GMT -5
Bettman gets a lot wrong (imo) and the NHL is slow to act too often, but good on them for being decisive here (as opposed to the NFL, which, I think, has forced the major leagues to start acting decisively!). Would Bettman have done this if Goodell hadn't screwed up the Rice situation so monumentally? not likely. |
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Post by Gogie on Oct 20, 2014 15:02:38 GMT -5
Would Bettman have done this if Goodell hadn't screwed up the Rice situation so monumentally? not likely. There's already precedence for his lack of action in the past - see what Bettman did last year re Varlamov: A year ago, the NHL did not comment when Colorado Avalanche goaltender Semyon Varlamov was arrested on assault charges. He continued playing, and charges were later dropped.Of course Bettman could always claim he's prescient and he knew Varlamov would have the charges dropped but suddenly he's unable to forsee the future wrt Voynov. |
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 20, 2014 15:21:06 GMT -5
I believe it's Voynov, not Boynov. Corrected. Thank you bery much! |
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Post by BadCompany on Oct 20, 2014 15:24:47 GMT -5
It's a difficult situation for a commissioner to be in. On the one hand the optics of continuing to employ a wife beater are of course horrendous. But on the other hand, there is a little thing called due process in our society. It would be bad enough in the NHL, but at least there contracts are honoured. In the NFL let's say you're a special team player, a fringe kind of guy. You're still making $420,000 a year, because that's the minimum NFL wage. You're out, you're young, some hot chick is coming onto you... Next morning she punches herself in the eye. Or gets her accomplice/boyfriend/pimp to do it.
"Give me $50,000, or else I go public with a spousal abuse story, you get suspended, and probably cut from your team."
If you are a player what do you do? Sure, you might be exonerated, eventually, but what if that takes two months? Your team isn't going to carry you for two months, you're going to get cut, and there goes your career, salary, reputation. Won't matter two months from now when she recants and goes to jail for fraud, you're still out of a livelihood. "Doing the right thing" will be of small consolation when you're flipping burgers instead of playing professional sports. So you pay.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 20, 2014 16:37:23 GMT -5
If the player is judged innocent/not guilty, or charges are dropped, could the NHL be slapped with a defamation of character/wrongful suspension lawsuit?
Or is it agreed upon that "suspension WITH pay" negates that action?
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Post by seventeen on Oct 24, 2014 2:02:40 GMT -5
Chara injured tonight vs the Islanders. He ran into Tavares and Tavare's knee caught the inside of Chara's left knee. It's ligament damage and he's out for 4-5 weeks with it to be reassessed at that time in case surgery is needed.
I guess we'll see how the Bruins react to the loss of their best player and backbone of their toughness. They can't replace him, so the younger d-men are really going to have to step it up. It will be really tough to replace that 25 minutes a night and that strength and calmness on the back line.
Should be fun!
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Post by blny on Oct 24, 2014 2:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by acurseoncharasknee on Oct 24, 2014 4:49:48 GMT -5
Chara injured tonight vs the Islanders. He ran into Tavares and Tavare's knee caught the inside of Chara's left knee. It's ligament damage and he's out for 4-5 weeks with it to be reassessed at that time in case surgery is needed. I guess we'll see how the Bruins react to the loss of their best player and backbone of their toughness. They can't replace him, so the younger d-men are really going to have to step it up. It will be really tough to replace that 25 minutes a night and that strength and calmness on the back line. Should be fun! |
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Post by franko on Oct 24, 2014 5:55:34 GMT -5
Chara injured tonight vs the Islanders. He ran into Tavares and Tavare's knee caught the inside of Chara's left knee. It's ligament damage and he's out for 4-5 weeks with it to be reassessed at that time in case surgery is needed. cap problems = no Boychuck = oh-oh. not saying Boychuck is the be-all and end-all . . . just that Chara's minutes are going to be hard to replace. |
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Post by 24in93 on Oct 24, 2014 7:59:37 GMT -5
Look how bad I feel about this.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 24, 2014 9:49:45 GMT -5
They get no sympathy from me. I do like having the big baboon playing against us... Gallagher owned him in the slot. Chara's time is over but the bruins refuse to see that. The more minutes he would play, the worse he would play.
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Post by BadCompany on Oct 24, 2014 10:27:57 GMT -5
Unless he needs surgery and is going to be lost for the year I would rather see him on the ice playing 25 minutes a game. Get him all worn out for the playoffs.
The injury is too early in the year and the Bruins are still too good a team to miss the playoffs because of this. All I see this doing is keeping Chara's legs fresher for the later in the year and giving some of their younger defensemen some more ice time and/or experience.
Having said that, if it needs surgery I won't be complaining!
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Post by jkr on Oct 24, 2014 10:54:29 GMT -5
Unless he needs surgery and is going to be lost for the year I would rather see him on the ice playing 25 minutes a game. Get him all worn out for the playoffs. The injury is too early in the year and the Bruins are still too good a team to miss the playoffs because of this. All I see this doing is keeping Chara's legs fresher for the later in the year and giving some of their younger defensemen some more ice time and/or experience. buzzkill |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 24, 2014 17:12:40 GMT -5
Unless he needs surgery and is going to be lost for the year I would rather see him on the ice playing 25 minutes a game. Get him all worn out for the playoffs. The injury is too early in the year and the Bruins are still too good a team to miss the playoffs because of this. All I see this doing is keeping Chara's legs fresher for the later in the year and giving some of their younger defensemen some more ice time and/or experience. Having said that, if it needs surgery I won't be complaining! You're assuming it will be his only injury this year. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 24, 2014 18:56:21 GMT -5
Chara injured tonight vs the Islanders. He ran into Tavares and Tavare's knee caught the inside of Chara's left knee. It's ligament damage and he's out for 4-5 weeks with it to be reassessed at that time in case surgery is needed. cap problems = no Boychuck = oh-oh. not saying Boychuck is the be-all and end-all . . . just that Chara's minutes are going to be hard to replace. I don't remember ever seeing Chara more gassed than I have this year ... it's still early but he looks like he's struggling a lot ... I don't know if it's age, or sugar levels (or both) ... I remember seeing him drinking both Coke and water on the bench and I thought about the sugar levels ... Murray Wilson was a diabetic and he said he ate 17 chocolate bars in one hockey game so as to keep his sugar levels up ... I'm not saying Chara is a diabetic, but by his standards I think he's been struggling so far this season ... he looks tired a lot ... Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 24, 2014 19:09:47 GMT -5
Unless he needs surgery and is going to be lost for the year I would rather see him on the ice playing 25 minutes a game. Get him all worn out for the playoffs. The injury is too early in the year and the Bruins are still too good a team to miss the playoffs because of this. All I see this doing is keeping Chara's legs fresher for the later in the year and giving some of their younger defensemen some more ice time and/or experience. Having said that, if it needs surgery I won't be complaining! It will be interesting to see who they replace him with ... apparently the Bruins are deep in defensive prospects ... we'll see I reckon ... Cheers. |
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Post by Andrew on Oct 25, 2014 14:36:50 GMT -5
Unless he needs surgery and is going to be lost for the year I would rather see him on the ice playing 25 minutes a game. Get him all worn out for the playoffs. The injury is too early in the year and the Bruins are still too good a team to miss the playoffs because of this. All I see this doing is keeping Chara's legs fresher for the later in the year and giving some of their younger defensemen some more ice time and/or experience. Having said that, if it needs surgery I won't be complaining! It will be interesting to see who they replace him with ... apparently the Bruins are deep in defensive prospects ... we'll see I reckon ... Cheers. They let Iginla and Boychuk go. Chara is on the decline. Rask is showing warts in front of a diminished defense. Committed long term to Krejci while Seguin competes for art Ross trophies. They're not looking as mighty as they have in recent years, which is great news for Habs fans. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 25, 2014 20:06:52 GMT -5
After the 1st, Minny leads Tampa 4-1. Tampa started Nabokov who let in 4 goals on 8 shots. Bishop now in. I hope Minny can pile it on. The more space we put between ourselves and those chasing us, the better. Also, I'd like to see them use Bishop in 75 more games.  |
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Post by jkr on Oct 26, 2014 7:31:54 GMT -5
After the 1st, Minny leads Tampa 4-1. Tampa started Nabokov who let in 4 goals on 8 shots. Bishop now in. I hope Minny can pile it on. The more space we put between ourselves and those chasing us, the better. Also, I'd like to see them use Bishop in 75 more games. the final was 7-2 Wild. I wonder if Eliotte Friedman would call the 7-1 win over MTL "fool's gold" now. BTW, who spells Eliot like that?  |
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Post by jkr on Oct 26, 2014 7:44:35 GMT -5
Bruins beat Leafs 4-1 with Toronto's goal coming very late in the game.
Krejci outskated Kessel in the 2nd goal & Gardiner looked awful on the 4th. He had a step on Hamilton who just blew right by him. Looks like another benching coming. And Bernier pulled again.
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 26, 2014 9:46:16 GMT -5
Bruins beat Leafs 4-1 with Toronto's goal coming very late in the game. Krejci outskated Kessel in the 2nd goal & Gardiner looked awful on the 4th. He had a step on Hamilton who just blew right by him. Looks like another benching coming. And Bernier pulled again. Took a look at the Leafs' HF Boards post-game, and many are calling to blow it up already. Perhaps just teenagers doing the talking…but I'll bet they were also thinking the Leafs were on the right track vs. the Islanders. Tuned in just after Hamilton's 4-0 goal…and Glenn Healy was saying there was no emotion/jump at the morning skate/practice….and it carried over into the game. Healy was comparing the Leaf effort to that of the Habs vs. the Bruins, mentioning Emelin's early hit on Lucic being a key factor in the tone. Cherry with a nice tribute to the two murdered soldiers and Sgt.-at-Arms Vickers. A bit too bullying/shaming in asking us to donate to the families/wounded…but that's his style..and his emotion was running high. Under the new Rogers' system, I'm pretty sure Cherry no longer has his post-game stump for Leaf apologetics/propaganda. Good. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 26, 2014 12:21:24 GMT -5
Islanders outscoring the Stars last night 7-5 ... when was the last time an Islanders team scored seven? ... I honestly don't remember ... not sure giving up five is all that good ... I don't know what the payoff was, but it might have been a good one for Buffalo taking out SJ on the road 2-1 ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 26, 2014 23:33:02 GMT -5
Dallas has developed an all offence/no defense attitude. Seguin is atrocious defensively so even though he scores a lot I doubt he gets invited to many Olympic teams.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 28, 2014 10:51:28 GMT -5
Wow it looks like Krash Kreider is gonna get a free pass again. Takes out Brodin and get no games, according to Bob MacKenzie.
The MSG call on this smacks of Jack Edwards
In the same game Moore nails Erik Haula and gets a call to the league office... I guess you can't suspend 2 players at the same time from the same team.... even if both hits are dirty. What a brutal elbow.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 28, 2014 12:23:35 GMT -5
Took a look at the Leafs' HF Boards post-game, and many are calling to blow it up already. Perhaps just teenagers doing the talking…but I'll bet they were also thinking the Leafs were on the right track vs. the Islanders. How many times have we debated that over the years, eh? ... just years of marking time, not going anywhere ... a glimmer of hope and a first-round exit ... if it were up to this armchair GM, I'd start replacing pieces ... first up, Phaneuf ... I'd even try to find a taker for Kessel ... as an outsider looking in, I just don't see the kind of leadership in place to make a big difference ... replacing Carlyle would only be a temporary fix, IMHO ... I really think they won't go anywhere until they sort out that core ... Cheers. |
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Post by jkr on Oct 31, 2014 6:36:15 GMT -5
NJ beats the jets in a shoot out to break a streak of 18 consecutive losses in that wonderful part of the game. First SO win since March 2013. Lots of empty seats in NJ. Even more empty seats in Florida. What does it take for this league to see that continuing there is an embarassment?
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Post by franko on Oct 31, 2014 7:24:28 GMT -5
NJ beats the jets in a shoot out to break a streak of 18 consecutive losses in that wonderful part of the game. First SO win since March 2013. Lots of empty seats in NJ. Even more empty seats in Florida. What does it take for this league to see that continuing there is an embarassment? speaking of NJ . . . here's Sean McIndoe's (Down Goes Brown) take on one of the worst trades in the history of hockeyof course, it's Leaf based . . . but in the realm of "what ifs", Lucky Lou is unlucky because the Leafs draft Eric Lindros, NJ keeps Kurvers, and in the butterfly effect, Roy stays with the Habs because the Nords don't move, and there is no way the Habs would send him to them. a fun read. the NJ piece: |
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Post by CentreHice on Nov 1, 2014 22:22:03 GMT -5
Didn't see a second of the game, but Reimer with 45 saves vs. Chicago in a 3-2 win for the Leafs.
3 wins in a row….and I bet the lawn chairs are back on Yonge St. and Reimer is the new #1, according to fans.
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Post by franko on Nov 1, 2014 22:45:30 GMT -5
saw the third . . . Reimer full value from what I saw. of course, what I heard implied that he was the second coming of every great goalie ever.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 2, 2014 0:12:52 GMT -5
Was flipping back and forth between the Leafs/Chicago and Bruins/Senators ... Reimer was the difference in Toronto, while Karlsson was -4 against Boston ... he's one of the guys killing me in my fantasy pool ... brutal ...
Cheers.
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