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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 26, 2015 21:29:18 GMT -5
Sens CBC love in finally over. Round two!
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 26, 2015 21:30:26 GMT -5
The refs? Seemed to be some questionable calls against the Habs and a number of no calls on the Sens. They were 0-4 on the PP. Sens power play and Fancy Boy let them down!
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Post by blny on Apr 26, 2015 21:30:28 GMT -5
While we'd likely have hated that whistle, it was the right call. Doesn't matter where the puck is. If the ref can't see it he's obliged to blow the whistle. Simple as that. There were a lot of boos after the whistle in the third as well. Sorry Sens fans, when the goalie looses his mask/helmet, that's a whistle too. Thems the rules.
Now, to get Eller some top six minutes with offensive zone starts ...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 26, 2015 21:37:39 GMT -5
I know someone mentioned it before, but imagine if Prust had some hands to he game ... really glad that Stone issue faded away ... it looked like it was going to be a sideshow to the series but fizzled out well enough ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 26, 2015 21:39:14 GMT -5
it's all the goal that was called back and the terrible reffing here in Ottawa. think I'll listen in to the morning show. oh, and Chris Lee hates the Senators and loves the Canadians, and always favours them. Obviously, dementia is having a field day tonight. Chris Lee favours the Habs. I'm going to have trouble recovering from this laughing fit. I thought it was extreme irony, having Chris Lee blow a quick whistle to help us out, but as I quote Glen Healy earlier, the Sens have no one but themselves to blame. If they hadn't hacked at Price, they don't get the quick whistle. Besides, the Sens are just schmucks and don't deserve to move on. I'd sure like that Karlsson on my team, though. Wow, am I down on Emelin. I know he caused turnovers at times, but he really went out of his way to look bad tonight. He took two penalties for the team and I thank him for that, but the constant bad passes and giveaways have to stop. It was brutal. Just before he got conked by Turris, he made an especially bad play with no pressure on him at all and only Turris' (I think it was Turris) stupidity bailed us out. If Nathan heals, I'd boot Emelin into the press box. I'd even consider playing Gonchar there. Can't have that constant change of possession because it touches Emelin's stick. Oh well. To paraphrase another great Canadian, Hank Snow, "We're moving on". Eeehaaaa....!
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Post by seventeen on Apr 26, 2015 21:40:45 GMT -5
Now, to get Eller some top six minutes with offensive zone starts ...
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 26, 2015 21:42:27 GMT -5
While we'd likely have hated that whistle, it was the right call. Doesn't matter where the puck is. If the ref can't see it he's obliged to blow the whistle. Simple as that. There were a lot of boos after the whistle in the third as well. Sorry Sens fans, when the goalie looses his mask/helmet, that's a whistle too. Thems the rules. Now, to get Eller some top six minutes with offensive zone starts ... And I think Price's reputation of being a puck magnet also had an impact on that call. He had his arms clenched to his body as if he had it frozen. Lee couldn't see it from his angle...so he immediately thought Price had it. Talk about a nice "bounce". Question: If the other ref saw it fall and wouldn't have blown it dead....could he have over-ruled Lee? Not sure of that process. EDIT: I would presume the answer is NO seeing as once players hear the whistle, they stop playing...rendering subsequent play null and void.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 21:47:20 GMT -5
Sens CBC love in finally over. Round two! Commence the Tampa/Detroit love-in.
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Post by blny on Apr 26, 2015 21:56:16 GMT -5
While we'd likely have hated that whistle, it was the right call. Doesn't matter where the puck is. If the ref can't see it he's obliged to blow the whistle. Simple as that. There were a lot of boos after the whistle in the third as well. Sorry Sens fans, when the goalie looses his mask/helmet, that's a whistle too. Thems the rules. Now, to get Eller some top six minutes with offensive zone starts ... And I think Price's reputation of being a puck magnet also had an impact on that call. He had his arms clenched to his body as if he had it frozen. Lee couldn't see it from his angle...so he immediately thought Price had it. Talk about a nice "bounce". Question: If the other ref saw it fall and wouldn't have blown it dead....could he have over-ruled Lee? Not sure of that process. EDIT: I would presume the answer is NO seeing as once players hear the whistle, they stop playing...rendering subsequent play null and void. Not sure. One could argue that a play like that would be a reason for instant replay.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 26, 2015 21:56:31 GMT -5
Sens CBC love in finally over. Round two! Commence the Tampa/Detroit love-in. That bunch is already amassing every Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Tatar, Mrazek, Babcock, Stamkos, Hedman, Johnson, Bishop, Cooper clip and story they can find. If it's Detroit, it'll be all about, "Sure, the Habs were 4-0 against the Wings this year....but the Wings were 1-2-1 against Tampa Bay and they beat them." If it's Tampa, it'll be how they owned us this year. It's the most hypocritical production going....and it's all based on Habs' envy.
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Post by blny on Apr 26, 2015 22:05:19 GMT -5
I've been okay with the play by play crew, despite Healey. Romanuk calls and honest game and Johnson calls it like he sees it.
I avoid the first intermission like the plague. Absolutely zero interest in seeing any of it. I haven't found the second intermission as bad as previous years. Strombo is a Habs fan, but he doesn't wave the flag in the studio - which is the way it should be. Stock has largely been on the SN panel, so I haven't had to listen to him. Friedmann is pretty unbiased. Kypreos and Hrudey waver, but they're certainly not as overtly full of hate like the Stocks and Cherrys.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 26, 2015 22:06:11 GMT -5
Sens CBC love in finally over. Round two! Tough day for TSN and CBC. Only two Canadian teams left in the playoffs and one is several time zones away from the centre of the universe. AND NO MORE RAPTORS! So media will have to focus on the Habs. Would be nice if they showed some love but that ain't goin' to happen. It will make moving to the third round all the sweeter!
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 26, 2015 22:27:53 GMT -5
it's all the goal that was called back and the terrible reffing here in Ottawa. think I'll listen in to the morning show. oh, and Chris Lee hates the Senators and loves the Canadians, and always favours them. By the way, it looked to me that moments before the disallowed goal there was one if not two glove passes by the Sens leading to the turnover and the shot which the record books will show Carey stopped and froze, ever so momentarily.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 26, 2015 22:35:27 GMT -5
While we'd likely have hated that whistle, it was the right call. Doesn't matter where the puck is. If the ref can't see it he's obliged to blow the whistle. Simple as that. There were a lot of boos after the whistle in the third as well. Sorry Sens fans, when the goalie looses his mask/helmet, that's a whistle too. Thems the rules. Now, to get Eller some top six minutes with offensive zone starts ... And I think Price's reputation of being a puck magnet also had an impact on that call. He had his arms clenched to his body as if he had it frozen. Lee couldn't see it from his angle...so he immediately thought Price had it. Talk about a nice "bounce". Question: If the other ref saw it fall and wouldn't have blown it dead....could he have over-ruled Lee? Not sure of that process. EDIT: I would presume the answer is NO seeing as once players hear the whistle, they stop playing...rendering subsequent play null and void. I'm not really sure of the rule, but I saw twice this year the whistle blew before the puck went in the net, and they counted it. I think it has to do with if the puck directly enters the net or not. In both plays I saw, the puck was shot, got behind the goalie, the whistle blew and it dribbled over. I just assumed that if the puck would have entered regardless of the whistle, they could count it. Or I could have seen two instances where the refs screwed up. But in the instance tonight, the puck would have sat next to Price, so the other ref could not over rule, because another act caused the puck to go in, after the whistle.
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Post by jerry_dog on Apr 26, 2015 22:53:58 GMT -5
Great team work and thanks for the excitement; albeit at times a little nerve wracking!
On to round 2 which, according to one of the broadcast crew, is the first time since 1993 that the Hsbs have one the opening round in consecutive years. Nice.
off topic (only kind of ) ... though somewhat wishful ... with the Blues losing to Minny; if Ken Hitchcock is let go and his staff is ushered out with him; that would make Kirk Muller available. Kirk would be a great hire for the upcoming season (and beyond) and, from something I heard, although he cannot be hired as an assistant coach and be behind the bench for the balance of the playoffs; he can be hired as a consultant and work with the coaches and team at practices and be in the booth with coaches / MB during games. Getting let go might initially be crappy for Kirk; if it happens soon I would hope Marc B. is on the phone to him pronto ... let's get him working on / fixing this power play.
also ... Bravo to the Boys on handing the Senators their first shutout of the season. Chapeau!!
Go Habs Go!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 23:04:03 GMT -5
Don't care what the refs, Bettman, CBC or what some of you may think. They won, fair and square and we have the best goalie in the world. Yay.
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Post by jerry_dog on Apr 26, 2015 23:10:58 GMT -5
Don't care what the refs, Bettman, CBC or what some of you may think. They won, fair and square and we have the best goalie in the world. Yay. I like this post.
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Post by blny on Apr 26, 2015 23:25:33 GMT -5
We'll see what happens in St Louis. IMO, their issues revolve around a core group that consistently under achieves in the playoffs. Steen, Backes, Berglund, and Oshie all have putrid numbers. What's more, when they get frustrated they often take terrible penalties.
I'd love to have Muller back. Love too. However, I think it would ruffle some feathers internally if he were brought in in any capacity.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 26, 2015 23:39:06 GMT -5
And I think Price's reputation of being a puck magnet also had an impact on that call. He had his arms clenched to his body as if he had it frozen. Lee couldn't see it from his angle...so he immediately thought Price had it. Talk about a nice "bounce". Question: If the other ref saw it fall and wouldn't have blown it dead....could he have over-ruled Lee? Not sure of that process. EDIT: I would presume the answer is NO seeing as once players hear the whistle, they stop playing...rendering subsequent play null and void. I'm not really sure of the rule, but I saw twice this year the whistle blew before the puck went in the net, and they counted it. I think it has to do with if the puck directly enters the net or not. In both plays I saw, the puck was shot, got behind the goalie, the whistle blew and it dribbled over. I just assumed that if the puck would have entered regardless of the whistle, they could count it. Or I could have seen two instances where the refs screwed up. But in the instance tonight, the puck would have sat next to Price, so the other ref could not over rule, because another act caused the puck to go in, after the whistle. Good point! No doubt the puck was not covered by Carey when the whistle blew. But it only went in because of the Sen player, who was covered by a Hab (I believe Petry or Gilbert). Who's to say the Hab player didn't let up, even momentarily, when he heard the whistle. Sure it was bang bang but when the whistle goes, all bets are off!
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 27, 2015 0:23:11 GMT -5
The Sens took us pretty much to the mat.
We won a 6-game series scoring only 11 goals (I don't count that last goal with .3 seconds left into an empty net). We also allowed only 12....with 5 coming in one game. So Price allowed only 7 goals in the other 5 games, in which we went 4-1. I can live with that.
Good thing Cameron decided to go with Hammond in Game 2, as Anderson proved to be "good-lucky man" against us again...and got into our heads. We just couldn't finish.
WE NEED TO MANUFACTURE SCORING!!! [/understatement]
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Post by PTH on Apr 27, 2015 0:26:39 GMT -5
They finally got it done.
While it was very much Price's doing, I think this was their best game of the series. Anderson got very lucky on a couple of plays, and it could easily have been 3 or 4 goals for us. Carey wasn't lucky as much as just very, very good.
I have to give Gilbert credit, he played a strong game. In fact, I can't think of anyone who wasn't at least ok. Pacioretty had IMO a strong game, he was very involved, and his being involved probably helped us get the goal (I'm not really counting the empty-netter at the last moment).
Guys like Gallagher and Petry did very well, with hustle (such as Gallagher beating out an icing in the last minute of the game) or Petry with a lot of poise under pressure.
I agree with whoever said that Markov seems old and tired. Like I said earlier, we need to give him less icetime and more rest, he can't handle PK-like ice time any more.
Next, Wings or Bolts ?
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Post by jkr on Apr 27, 2015 5:36:41 GMT -5
Should feel elation but it's more relief that it's finally over.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 27, 2015 5:50:42 GMT -5
Should feel elation but it's more relief that it's finally over. Yeah, me too ... I didn't have a warm/fuzzy going into last night's game ... 11 goals in 6 games and we win ... how does that work ... Cheers.
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Post by franko on Apr 27, 2015 5:54:34 GMT -5
And I think Price's reputation of being a puck magnet also had an impact on that call. He had his arms clenched to his body as if he had it frozen. Lee couldn't see it from his angle...so he immediately thought Price had it. Talk about a nice "bounce". Question: If the other ref saw it fall and wouldn't have blown it dead....could he have over-ruled Lee? Not sure of that process. EDIT: I would presume the answer is NO seeing as once players hear the whistle, they stop playing...rendering subsequent play null and void. Not sure. One could argue that a play like that would be a reason for instant replay. don't think so. whistle blown is whistle blown. full stop. I mean, if "intent to blow the call whistle is enough to call back a goal, surely actually blowing the whistle is too.
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Post by franko on Apr 27, 2015 6:07:12 GMT -5
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Post by Polarice on Apr 27, 2015 6:12:07 GMT -5
Next.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 27, 2015 6:15:59 GMT -5
Franko, you got to send me the link to that cartoon! lol
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 27, 2015 6:43:42 GMT -5
They don't ask how, they ask how many, right? I guess if you had of said at the beginning of the series that we would win in six games, outshooting Ottawa in what, 4 of those games, winning the advanced stats battle most of the time, and with only Nathan Beaulieu suffering a significant injury, I think we would all take that, right? But boy, that didn't look too good for most of the third. Still, it's not how... Markov had a terrible series. Hopefully that's just "one of those things" and not him showing his age. Pacioretty had a better game last night, but there were a few passengers, I thought. Galchenyuk should be our version of Pageau but isn't (yet?), and Plekanec has been okay but hasn't really raised his game up yet, if you ask me. The good news of course is that others did, and Price. Where would they be without Price? I'm not one of those who think we would be a lottery team (we would have another goalie after all) but clearly he's the be all, end all of Montreal's hopes. Now if only Markov can avoid running him over in the next round...
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 27, 2015 7:02:28 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 27, 2015 7:02:50 GMT -5
Completely agree. That line was easily our best. Price was great when he had to be. There were a lot of pucks fired at him, and he saw most of them. Thought PAP was okay. Created a few chances. Markov had a terrible series. Maybe he was hearing footsteps every night. Dunno. Petry was a rock. Love to sign him, but it would have to come at the expense of adding goals what with the cap looking like it might get set at $68.1 million instead of $71 million. The only way to sign him and add goals is to move PAP, and I don't see any takers. Eller's been a monster. Seems we could sign Petry if Markov would retire. He's looking old, as is his thought process. Been saying since Feb that MT should be resting him. Weaver and Gonchar add up to 5.5 and if we can move Gilbert that would free up 2.8 more. Pateryn is a keeper, there is no need for him to go back to the dogs.
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