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Post by blny on Jun 29, 2015 13:41:47 GMT -5
Word was he was put on unconditional waivers, but now McKenzie is reporting that the Kings are voiding the contract for "Material Breach". The rest is hush hush. Is this just a tactic to get out from paying the player anything, or did Richards really do something so bad that it warrants voiding the contract? kings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=772865 |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 29, 2015 13:59:14 GMT -5
If this has any merit to it, teams are really going to shy away kicking the tires on July 1st.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 29, 2015 14:35:09 GMT -5
Under the CBA, that termination for material breach can occur for not following a team's direction on training or conduct. This could open one heck of a can of worms this summer. Lawyers must be grinning.
LA sure has had their headlines of late.
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Post by Lord Bebop on Jun 29, 2015 15:37:39 GMT -5
From the rumors ..it's about Richards not wanting to train in LA. Not loving the idea of a team telling someone not to spend your free time with your family... I don't like the smell of this at all.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 29, 2015 16:00:44 GMT -5
I believe it's not just a done deal. Richards and more specifically, the NHLPA can grieve it, or perhaps it will have to go to court. Then the 'materialness' of the 'breach' can be judged. I can't see the training location being a material breach, tons of players train elsewhere. Maybe keeping his training limited to his elbow?
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Post by blny on Jun 29, 2015 16:01:04 GMT -5
Doesn't Chelios operating his training program for athletes in LA? Richards' conditioning has been an issue for years. At least in LA they can monitor it closely
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Post by Lord Bebop on Jun 29, 2015 16:13:22 GMT -5
Doesn't Chelios operating his training program for athletes in LA? Richards' conditioning has been an issue for years. At least in LA they can monitor it closely Absolutely you can recommend but I don't think holding a player hostage with the threat of termination seems very heavy handed. Just speculation as we don't have the whole story. Must be more to it |
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Post by Lord Bebop on Jun 29, 2015 16:24:36 GMT -5
Pierre McGuire on TSN 690 mentioned but didn't go into details that Richards had some sorta "issues" at a border crossing
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Post by Skilly on Jun 29, 2015 17:05:09 GMT -5
Pierre McGuire on TSN 690 mentioned but didn't go into details that Richards had some sorta "issues" at a border crossing The U.S. Customs officers didn't show him enough respect.  |
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Post by blny on Jun 29, 2015 17:08:24 GMT -5
He's been hanging out with Stoll, not that he needed any tips ...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 29, 2015 18:21:45 GMT -5
Pierre McGuire on TSN 690 mentioned but didn't go into details that Richards had some sorta "issues" at a border crossing Must have been pretty bad ...
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Post by blny on Jun 29, 2015 18:38:55 GMT -5
At least they didn't send his agent a fish wrapped in vest wrapped in brown paper. That's an old Sicilian message. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 29, 2015 19:06:53 GMT -5
At least they didn't send his agent a fish wrapped in vest wrapped in brown paper. That's an old Sicilian message. Means Luca Brasi Pierre McGuire sleeps with da fishes ... Ciao ... |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 29, 2015 19:32:51 GMT -5
And I thought it was supper with a special dressing. Duh.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 29, 2015 23:22:11 GMT -5
I read this report yesterday... Dean Lombardi made the long trek from California to quiet Kenora, Ont., last summer to see if his eyes could confirm what his heart and gut felt. He wanted to give Mike Richards a second chance. He asked Richards, who worked with an off-ice trainer for the first time since junior, for a serious commitment.
Lombardi had one last golden chance to initiate a compliance buyout - free and clear of cap penalty. But he decided to take Richards at his word.
"I met with him. He promised that he'd do it. And when a guy looks you in the eye and promises, to me, that goes beyond loyalty," Lombardi told the Los Angeles Times before last season. "A guy's giving you his word. That's more important than a contract or anything else."
Lombardi was burned. He felt Richards' contribution was so middling that it was worth saddling all but $925,000 of Richards' $5.75 million cap hit just to have him play in the AHL.
"It could be the worst decision I ever made," Lombardi told ESPN.com last month. "But for all the right reasons. In a cap world, you can't have any heart and soul. I struggle with that." |
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Post by jkr on Jun 30, 2015 6:51:44 GMT -5
I read this report yesterday... Dean Lombardi made the long trek from California to quiet Kenora, Ont., last summer to see if his eyes could confirm what his heart and gut felt. He wanted to give Mike Richards a second chance. He asked Richards, who worked with an off-ice trainer for the first time since junior, for a serious commitment.
Lombardi had one last golden chance to initiate a compliance buyout - free and clear of cap penalty. But he decided to take Richards at his word.
"I met with him. He promised that he'd do it. And when a guy looks you in the eye and promises, to me, that goes beyond loyalty," Lombardi told the Los Angeles Times before last season. "A guy's giving you his word. That's more important than a contract or anything else."
Lombardi was burned. He felt Richards' contribution was so middling that it was worth saddling all but $925,000 of Richards' $5.75 million cap hit just to have him play in the AHL.
"It could be the worst decision I ever made," Lombardi told ESPN.com last month. "But for all the right reasons. In a cap world, you can't have any heart and soul. I struggle with that."That says it all about Richards. Looks Lombardi right in the face and lies. Speaks volumes about his so called character. |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2015 7:03:36 GMT -5
It echos what I've said. It goes back to his time in Philly, and likely habits developed in jr.
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Post by Skilly on Jun 30, 2015 10:38:23 GMT -5
I read this report yesterday... Dean Lombardi made the long trek from California to quiet Kenora, Ont., last summer to see if his eyes could confirm what his heart and gut felt. He wanted to give Mike Richards a second chance. He asked Richards, who worked with an off-ice trainer for the first time since junior, for a serious commitment.
Lombardi had one last golden chance to initiate a compliance buyout - free and clear of cap penalty. But he decided to take Richards at his word.
"I met with him. He promised that he'd do it. And when a guy looks you in the eye and promises, to me, that goes beyond loyalty," Lombardi told the Los Angeles Times before last season. "A guy's giving you his word. That's more important than a contract or anything else."
Lombardi was burned. He felt Richards' contribution was so middling that it was worth saddling all but $925,000 of Richards' $5.75 million cap hit just to have him play in the AHL.
"It could be the worst decision I ever made," Lombardi told ESPN.com last month. "But for all the right reasons. In a cap world, you can't have any heart and soul. I struggle with that."I'm going to do a little reading in between the lines here. I don't think this has anything to do with Mike Richards work out habits. Does a GM really fly up to a player, meet with him, just to settle his mind on what kind of a commitment to working out a player has?? If that was the case, Byfuglien would have Cheveldayoff living next door. Pierre McGuire left some dubious suggestion hang in the air with his "border crossing trouble" comments on the air ... Could this be a case where a GM wanted a player to quit something, or seek help for something, and the player "promised he'd do it" ... let's just say, you don't get stopped at the border for being fat. |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2015 10:58:25 GMT -5
An athlete's proclivity for using drugs/alcohol excessively falls into the category of fitness and conditioning in part (for me). He's got a reputation for the party lifestyle and not taking his level of fitness seriously. Both, imo, are why his game has fallen off so dramatically.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2015 12:16:35 GMT -5
It echos what I've said. It goes back to his time in Philly, and likely habits developed in jr. Wasn't he one of the guys critical of PK when Subban was first getting noticed in the NHL? And then Cherry willingly jumps on that bandwagon because Richards is such a character guy and fits right into Cherry's alley? |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2015 12:20:12 GMT -5
Pierre McGuire left some dubious suggestion hang in the air with his "border crossing trouble" comments on the air ... Could this be a case where a GM wanted a player to quit something, or seek help for something, and the player "promised he'd do it" ... let's just say, you don't get stopped at the border for being fat. My biggest fear is being caught with more than the maximum permitted two bottles of wine. Could that have been it?  No journalist is expressing any knowledge of what the issue is/was, though I'm sure many know. That's part of the job, especially if legal liability plays any role. In hindsight, that LA team seems to have been rather dysfunctional. Or at least full of more than their share of warts. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 30, 2015 12:55:38 GMT -5
It echos what I've said. It goes back to his time in Philly, and likely habits developed in jr. Wasn't he one of the guys critical of PK when Subban was first getting noticed in the NHL? And then Cherry willingly jumps on that bandwagon because Richards is such a character guy and fits right into Cherry's alley? Back then, though, Cherry (and the rest of the hockey world outside of Philly) didn't know what antics Richards (and, reportedly, Jeff Carter) were up to. But Cherry's MO has always been to use comments at face value….as long as they back-up his views. A prime example is his support of Rob and Doug Ford. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 30, 2015 13:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2015 13:34:49 GMT -5
It echos what I've said. It goes back to his time in Philly, and likely habits developed in jr. Wasn't he one of the guys critical of PK when Subban was first getting noticed in the NHL? And then Cherry willingly jumps on that bandwagon because Richards is such a character guy and fits right into Cherry's alley? I can't remember if he was first or Cherry. I've always scoffed regardless, because he showed Booth very little in the way of respect when he almost ended his career. |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2015 13:35:14 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 30, 2015 13:48:07 GMT -5
I'd be lying if I told you I didn't think of it, dude ... there's another statement from the quote CH left in the thread that sort of jumped out of the page at me that kind of made sense, but I'll leave it alone for now ... don't want to speculate and be wrong ... Cheers. |
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Post by franko on Jun 30, 2015 14:37:58 GMT -5
don't want to speculate and be wrong ... never stopped me before  |
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Post by blny on Jun 30, 2015 14:48:32 GMT -5
I'd be lying if I told you I didn't think of it, dude ... there's another statement from the quote CH left in the thread that sort of jumped out of the page at me that kind of made sense, but I'll leave it alone for now ... don't want to speculate and be wrong ... Cheers. Never stopped me either lol. I mean, I'm being half serious. Tongue in cheek. Given his rep, the attention it's getting, it's something. Perhaps some cannabis that he didn't realize he had, whatever. |
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Post by Andrew on Jun 30, 2015 15:22:41 GMT -5
So Voynov is arrested, and charged with a felony for domestic abuse, and is suspended, pending outcome of the trial. Richards is involved in some incident, for which he hasn't even been arrested and they immediately terminate his contract? Curious to hear the details, but at face value it looks like LA trying to get out of a bad contract.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 30, 2015 18:03:41 GMT -5
Well, it's out of the bag now ... no charges laid ... NHL's Mike Richards
NHL Notified About Oxycodone Drama
... At Canadian BorderNHL officials have been notified that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police investigation into ex-L.A. Kings player Mike Richards involves the prescription drug oxycodone ... multiple sources tell TMZ Sports. Our sources say Richards was stopped while crossing from the United States into Canada on June 17th ... and we're told he was questioned about oxycodone pills, a powerful painkiller. For the record, Richards has NOT been charged with a crime. However, he has since been cut from the team for "a material breach of the requirements of his Standard Player's Contract." We reached out to Richards' agent for comment multiple times but haven't heard back. Canadian officials refused to comment, citing privacy laws. But a rep for the NHL Players Association tells us, "We are in the process of reviewing the facts and circumstances of this matter, and will discuss the situation with the player in order to determine the appropriate course of action." TMZ Sports Refers ... |
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