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Post by blny on May 11, 2016 12:23:36 GMT -5
The Bonino line was great all series. Hats off to Kessel, who's likely played the best hockey of his life. Ovi never out of second round. Has Russia won anything significant during Ovechkin's time? I know they've failed at the last 2 Olympics. Lots of shoulders to lay that blame on; Kovalchuk, Radulov, the friction I believe may exist between NHL and KHL players. |
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Post by jkr on May 11, 2016 14:23:26 GMT -5
Has Russia won anything significant during Ovechkin's time? I know they've failed at the last 2 Olympics. Lots of shoulders to lay that blame on; Kovalchuk, Radulov, the friction I believe may exist between NHL and KHL players. I don't know why any team, any where would want Radulov on the roster. He's a s toxic as they come. |
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Post by blny on May 11, 2016 16:51:00 GMT -5
Lots of shoulders to lay that blame on; Kovalchuk, Radulov, the friction I believe may exist between NHL and KHL players. I don't know why any team, any where would want Radulov on the roster. He's a s toxic as they come. Agreed. Despite it, there's been consistent talk much of the new year that he's intent on coming back to the NHL. |
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Post by Skilly on May 11, 2016 19:20:19 GMT -5
The Bonino line was great all series. Hats off to Kessel, who's likely played the best hockey of his life. Ovi never out of second round. Has Russia won anything significant during Ovechkin's time? I know they've failed at the last 2 Olympics. World Junior Gold World Junior Silver 3 World Championship Gold 2 World Championship Silver 2 World Championship Bronze |
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Post by CentreHice on May 11, 2016 20:05:31 GMT -5
Lehtonen.....what a night to have "one of those games".
Down 3-0 after the first...two GA that an experienced goalie who's taken you this far should have. Another of the soft variety was ruled no-goal after an offside review....
Weird deflection aside....as Kelly Hrudey noted, Lehtonen didn't look "prepared" to start the game....
They were mentioning that he's done this before in Game 7s. Not sure....
Niemi in to start the second....of course...
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 11, 2016 20:09:32 GMT -5
Flames' fans dreams of another first rounder from the Russell deal if DAL advances is not looking so good. Boo hoo hoo.
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Post by CentreHice on May 11, 2016 20:20:51 GMT -5
Backes scores on the second shot on Niemi.
Another puck that has to be stopped.
As I pointed out in the Jack Adams thread, both Lehtonen and Niemi had Condon-like numbers this year.
What a game to display the low end of what results in those averages...especially when they've been doing okay without Seguin....til now...
Now it's 5-0. Niemi no chance....
Poor backcheck coverage by the Stars....
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Post by blny on May 11, 2016 21:40:28 GMT -5
Tough way to go out, getting blown out at home. They've got to address the goal tending. I don't know if they buy one out, but I can't see a team trading for one of the two they have.
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Post by jkr on May 12, 2016 7:19:23 GMT -5
Tough way to go out, getting blown out at home. They've got to address the goal tending. I don't know if they buy one out, but I can't see a team trading for one of the two they have. I know I'm getting way ahead of myself but if Pittsburgh wins the Cup with Murray in goal do they move Fleury? If you have a Cup winning goalie at the low end of the pay scale why keep the expensive option? |
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Post by blny on May 12, 2016 9:23:35 GMT -5
Tough way to go out, getting blown out at home. They've got to address the goal tending. I don't know if they buy one out, but I can't see a team trading for one of the two they have. I know I'm getting way ahead of myself but if Pittsburgh wins the Cup with Murray in goal do they move Fleury? If you have a Cup winning goalie at the low end of the pay scale why keep the expensive option? I'm sure there are Pens fans who've thought the same. MAF has 3 years left at $5.75 million. Dallas and Calgary could really use an upgrade. I don't see the Stars being able to do it without Pittsburgh taking a goalie back. Maybe, maybe, they take Lehtonen back. He's more expensive, but only has a year left. He backs up Murray. It's tough though. Murray is only 21. As good as he's playing, he could easily regress a little, and then you're left with Lehtonen. Calgary would have the cap space, and could definitely use the stability of a solid #1. The Pens defense has over achieved in these playoffs. Guys like Cole, Lovejoy, Dumoulin, and even Trevor Daley have played above their station. Maybe the Flames can offer up one of their D. Wideman perhaps. It's a wash money-wise, and frees up some cash that Calgary could spend to add goals up front. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 12, 2016 11:06:38 GMT -5
The other factor looming on the Pittsburgh goalie front/decision is the ability to only protect one goalie come the expansion draft. After Murray's performance so far and based on his projected play, it will be hard to see him potentially walk for nothing.
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Post by seventeen on May 12, 2016 12:48:15 GMT -5
No matter how much we feel we need more scoring (and we do), we can't lost sight of the fact that defense still wins championships. On the discussion about Pitt's defense, Maatta and Letang are quality players. Cole is actually a winner in the advanced stats department. I didn't think much of him, but he's a pretty decent possession guy, so I think he's underrated. The last 3 probably are playing over their heads. Dumoulin has been improving through his young career, so he may simply have taken a step up. The Pens did spend a fair amount of time in their own end against the CAPS and they'll have to improve on that against Tampa.
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Post by CentreHice on May 12, 2016 21:45:42 GMT -5
Preds down 3-0 after two.
Only 8 shots on net. They all appear to be having "one of those games" that you see in February....
Weber not having a good night....
Completely unacceptable for a Game 7.
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Post by CentreHice on May 12, 2016 22:11:29 GMT -5
5-0 and Rinne loses his s@#t! Breaks his stick against the post....whips it into the corner....
I wouldn't be surprised if his anger was directed at his teammates. He actually held them in it early on.
The Preds were never in this game. Never any sustained pressure. Only 8 shots after 40 minutes. And 8:00 into the third, they have only 10....not that it matters now.
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Post by blny on May 13, 2016 7:09:20 GMT -5
Weber looked completely gassed out there. He was listless and wandering all over. Early in the Sharks series NBC showed a chart listing the amount of miles teams had racked up in just the playoffs. The Preds were far and away at the top with over 20000kms in a two week period. It was more than all Eastern teams combined. I can't recall for certain if it was more than all western teams combined as well, but it was way way more than anyone else.
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Post by Boston_Habs on May 13, 2016 7:24:41 GMT -5
I love the matchup out West. Two historic playoff chokers in the Blues and Sharks, so one of them has to win. Blues one of the original expansion teams in 1967 and last seen in the Finals for Bobby Orr's iconic OT winner in 1970. You bet that footage will get some play if they advance. The Sharks another tough luck playoff team, but overall a very successful franchise. They have much better depth now and Jones seems pretty solid in net. Should be a bruising series between two very similar teams.
Blues vs. Penguins would be a neat matchup between 2 original expansion teams, but I've adopted the Sharks for this playoff year and I'd love to see Joe Thornton win a Cup.
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Post by Polarice on May 13, 2016 7:43:54 GMT -5
I love the matchup out West. Two historic playoff chokers in the Blues and Sharks, so one of them has to win. Blues one of the original expansion teams in 1967 and last seen in the Finals for Bobby Orr's iconic OT winner in 1970. You bet that footage will get some play if they advance. The Sharks another tough luck playoff team, but overall a very successful franchise. They have much better depth now and Jones seems pretty solid in net. Should be a bruising series between two very similar teams. Blues vs. Penguins would be a neat matchup between 2 original expansion teams, but I've adopted the Sharks for this playoff year and I'd love to see Joe Thornton win a Cup. Wouldn't hurt my feelings to see either of them win the cup. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 13, 2016 12:38:17 GMT -5
Weber looked completely gassed out there. He was listless and wandering all over. Early in the Sharks series NBC showed a chart listing the amount of miles teams had racked up in just the playoffs. The Preds were far and away at the top with over 20000kms in a two week period. It was more than all Eastern teams combined. I can't recall for certain if it was more than all western teams combined as well, but it was way way more than anyone else. Yep…the Preds drew the short (or should I say long) straw twice in a row…and did themselves no favours by going to 7 vs. the Ducks. Nashville had only ONE 2-day rest period between games--ironically, between Games 6 and 7 vs. the Sharks. Maybe it threw them off…ha! Meanwhile, the Sharks were only 350 miles away from the Kings in Round 1. Like Toronto to Montreal. |
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Post by seventeen on May 13, 2016 13:06:08 GMT -5
Weber looked completely gassed out there. He was listless and wandering all over. Early in the Sharks series NBC showed a chart listing the amount of miles teams had racked up in just the playoffs. The Preds were far and away at the top with over 20000kms in a two week period. It was more than all Eastern teams combined. I can't recall for certain if it was more than all western teams combined as well, but it was way way more than anyone else. I'm always skeptical of travel excuses. In this case the players didn't have to run 20,000 km, they sat while some plane did all the work. You can't even blame time zones because every opponent would have faced the same issue. The Preds are a good team that just wasn't good enough. There are two key players who weren't at their career peaks...Rinne and Weber. Rinne has been a bit soft since even last season. There were valid comparisons between he and Carey for half of Carey's season of a lifetime, but after that halfway point, Rinne's been going downhill. WRT to Weber, the advanced stats guys have been saying he's not the same player he was in his prime. If he was paired with someone other than Josi, it might have been more apparent. Josi had a bad game yesterday too and perhaps he was worn out as well. When the World Cup of Hockey picks were announced earlier, I was annoyed that Weber was picked for the team, thinking he simply wasn't good enough. I still think that. There's no way he should be an automatic pick and PK be sitting on the sidelines. He isn't the player that PK is any longer. So what's the policy there? Can a player who has been chosen already be pulled off the team? If we go into the WC of Hockey with Weber in our top 4, it's a big problem. He's still a decent player, but he's no longer elite. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 13, 2016 19:23:43 GMT -5
It's a wonder Callahan didn't break Letang's neck. I'd suspend him for 10 games. Brutal, dirty hit from behind...you'd almost think it was a case of, "If you get the chance to take out a key guy...do it."
Major and ejection....
EDIT: Bolts killed it.
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Post by jkr on May 13, 2016 19:36:37 GMT -5
It's a wonder Callahan didn't break Letang's neck. I'd suspend him for 10 games. Brutal, dirty hit from behind...you'd almost think it was a case of, "If you get the chance to take out a key guy...do it." Major and ejection.... EDIT: Bolts killed it. I remember Cooper whining about Pateryn's hit on Johnson (who made a remarkable recovery BTW)  . No respect for the game, bla, bla,bla. Wonder what he says about that one. Looked like Callahan used his arm to drive Letang into the glass. |
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Post by jkr on May 13, 2016 19:38:50 GMT -5
Bishop down awkwardly. In a lot of pain. Remind you of anything?
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Post by CentreHice on May 13, 2016 19:39:49 GMT -5
Bishop's no doubt done for the year.
The way his knee twisted as he was trying to get back in the net. The ol' skate gets caught while everything above rolls over the other way. Could be ankle, too.....but he was grabbing his knee....
He's still down....now a stretcher coming out.
Completely different series now.....
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Post by jkr on May 13, 2016 19:44:45 GMT -5
It's a wonder Callahan didn't break Letang's neck. I'd suspend him for 10 games. Brutal, dirty hit from behind...you'd almost think it was a case of, "If you get the chance to take out a key guy...do it." Major and ejection.... EDIT: Bolts killed it. Remarkably, Callahan not ejected. Way to go NHL refs. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 13, 2016 19:46:13 GMT -5
Letang's back.....
Wow.
And Callahan's still in the game....he'll likely get 1 game max now....ha!
Hate to see that happen to Bishop....but what a zap in the nads for the Bolts. No Stamkos, no Stralman....now their #1 is gone....
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Post by CentreHice on May 13, 2016 19:59:01 GMT -5
Now they might be losing Johnson. He sidesteps a check from Kunitz in front of the boards...but it ends up knee-on-knee.
Johnson went down...needed help off the ice...
If anything, the hit might've been a bit late...but there was no intent on Kunitz's part to target the knee.
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Post by CentreHice on May 13, 2016 20:02:55 GMT -5
Cherry, of course, puts blame on Letang. He shoulda known Callahan was on the ice...a good Irish guy who likes to hit....
He ends with another "Cherry's a Genius" clip.
From an earlier Coach's Corner, footage of Brian Elliott being pulled, with Cherry saying, "I HOPE he comes back...because he's a great guy...."
Maclean then said, "And did he ever....!" over footage of Elliott stoning the Stars in Game 7.
Cherry finishes with, "He won that game for 'em, eh! He came back...JUST LIKE I KNEW HE WOULD."
Hope = Know, in Cherry's lexicon.
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Post by CentreHice on May 13, 2016 20:20:25 GMT -5
Despite losing Bishop and Johnson in this one....Tampa's up 2-0....
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Post by jkr on May 13, 2016 20:25:16 GMT -5
Crosby has been MIA since the Rangers series. Malkin too. If they don't show up the Penguins are done.
Crosby looks like the guy from the beginning of the season.
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Post by jkr on May 13, 2016 20:31:26 GMT -5
Cherry, of course, puts blame on Letang. He shoulda known Callahan was on the ice...a good Irish guy who likes to hit....He ends with another "Cherry's a Genius" clip. From an earlier Coach's Corner, footage of Brian Elliott being pulled, with Cherry saying, "I HOPE he comes back...because he's a great guy...."Maclean then said, "And did he ever....!" over footage of Elliott stoning the Stars in Game 7. Cherry finishes with, "He won that game for 'em, eh! He came back...JUST LIKE I KNEW HE WOULD." Hope = Know, in Cherry's lexicon. I guess that's supposed to be a compliment to Irish people. |
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