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Post by seventeen on Jun 7, 2016 11:52:23 GMT -5
I know Fleury played very well during the Pens' resurgence after Sullivan took over the helm….but if the Pens win the Cup with Murray going 99% of the way….does Fleury become somewhat available? Considering his age (he'll be 32 in Nov.) and injury history? He has a modified NTC. I can see Lou and Babcock putting out the feelers already… Of course, that's a lot of commitment--$5.75 for another 3 years--for a team on the rebuild... Depends on whether or not they'd like more stable goaltending with which to develop some offensive confidence….instead of always chasing the game like they did this past year… i certainly hope they do. Nothing like a choke artist guy who has trouble with pressure on the other team. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 7, 2016 12:11:25 GMT -5
I know Fleury played very well during the Pens' resurgence after Sullivan took over the helm….but if the Pens win the Cup with Murray going 99% of the way….does Fleury become somewhat available? Considering his age (he'll be 32 in Nov.) and injury history? He has a modified NTC. I can see Lou and Babcock putting out the feelers already… Of course, that's a lot of commitment--$5.75 for another 3 years--for a team on the rebuild... Depends on whether or not they'd like more stable goaltending with which to develop some offensive confidence….instead of always chasing the game like they did this past year… I was wondering about this a few weeks ago. How about a team like Dallas? They have great offensive pieces. Maybe with some solid goaltending they can get further. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 7, 2016 12:12:30 GMT -5
2 assists for Kessel last night. Leads Pittsburgh in pints in the playoffs & has to be the leader for the Conn Smythe. Much better playoff player than he has been given credit for. This must really burn for Leaf fans.  It must also stick in the craw of Steve Simmons, who is adamant that a Phil Kessel team would NEVER win the cup. Watching Simmons eat his words would be a lot of fun - if he has the guts to do it. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 7, 2016 12:55:01 GMT -5
I don't know if you can call it bandwagon jumping but I just saw a guy ( in Toronto)wearing a blue Penguins jersey with Laraque's name on it.  |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 7, 2016 14:21:23 GMT -5
I know Fleury played very well during the Pens' resurgence after Sullivan took over the helm….but if the Pens win the Cup with Murray going 99% of the way….does Fleury become somewhat available? Considering his age (he'll be 32 in Nov.) and injury history? He has a modified NTC. I can see Lou and Babcock putting out the feelers already… Of course, that's a lot of commitment--$5.75 for another 3 years--for a team on the rebuild... Depends on whether or not they'd like more stable goaltending with which to develop some offensive confidence….instead of always chasing the game like they did this past year… I was wondering about this a few weeks ago. How about a team like Dallas? They have great offensive pieces. Maybe with some solid goaltending they can get further. I was thinking Calgary would be the perfect fit. The Pens are going to lose one if expansion happens and it won't be Murray they'll lose. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 7, 2016 15:54:14 GMT -5
I know Fleury played very well during the Pens' resurgence after Sullivan took over the helm….but if the Pens win the Cup with Murray going 99% of the way….does Fleury become somewhat available? Considering his age (he'll be 32 in Nov.) and injury history? He has a modified NTC. I can see Lou and Babcock putting out the feelers already… Of course, that's a lot of commitment--$5.75 for another 3 years--for a team on the rebuild... Depends on whether or not they'd like more stable goaltending with which to develop some offensive confidence….instead of always chasing the game like they did this past year… I was wondering about this a few weeks ago. How about a team like Dallas? They have great offensive pieces. Maybe with some solid goaltending they can get further. I see that Dis also made the same point earlier in the Entry Draft thread. I haven't heard any pundits talking about it….but I haven't had the sound up very often. Get a little tired of the Canadian coverage…although, they do their best, and they're the best we have at the moment. Does Scott Oake ever start off an interview with something positive? Ha! |
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Post by franko on Jun 7, 2016 16:27:04 GMT -5
I know Fleury played very well during the Pens' resurgence after Sullivan took over the helm….but if the Pens win the Cup with Murray going 99% of the way….does Fleury become somewhat available? Considering his age (he'll be 32 in Nov.) and injury history? He has a modified NTC. I can see Lou and Babcock putting out the feelers already… Of course, that's a lot of commitment--$5.75 for another 3 years--for a team on the rebuild... Depends on whether or not they'd like more stable goaltending with which to develop some offensive confidence….instead of always chasing the game like they did this past year… I was wondering about this a few weeks ago. How about a team like Dallas? They have great offensive pieces. Maybe with some solid goaltending they can get further. Dallas has both Let-them-in and Niemi signed for the next two years ($11 over 2, $9 over 2) |
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Post by franko on Jun 7, 2016 16:29:17 GMT -5
gotta say . . . think this is the first year EVER since 1964 (young but would still watch with my father) that I have not watched even one playoff game in full.
and Mr Bettman: I haven't really missed it. have fun with the next generation.
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Post by jkr on Jun 9, 2016 20:14:13 GMT -5
Just checking in, didn't see the 1st but the stats look ugly for Murray - 3 goals on 7 shots. 3-2 Sharks after one.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 9, 2016 21:04:57 GMT -5
For Murray....can't really blame him on any of the goals. Just one of those games where more shots than usual have eyes.
Jones has been Price-like....especially in the second period. He's saving their series so far in this one.
Still 3-2.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 10, 2016 0:10:49 GMT -5
Jones outright stole it. Everybody was talking about Murray perhaps being Smythe-worthy...and now Jones has a game like this one.
The Sharks came to play, certainly.....but Pittsburgh did everything but win the Cup tonight.
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Post by blny on Jun 10, 2016 5:38:31 GMT -5
It was a frantic start. I think it affected everyone. Jones settled in and made some big saves. Good on the Sharks for finding a way to win and send it back to SJ. We'll see if they can build off it.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 10, 2016 8:05:56 GMT -5
This final is extremely frustrating...All this time off between games is ridiculous. The Stanley cup finals started May 30th which was 4 or 5 days after the conference finals ended(may 26). This thing should be game 7 tomorrow night. Enough of three days between each game crap.
Game 1 (mon)
Game 2 (wed)
Game 3 (Sat)
Game 4 (Mon)
Game 5 (thurs)
Game 6 (Sun)
Game 7 (Wed)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 9:27:48 GMT -5
Jones outright stole it. Everybody was talking about Murray perhaps being Smythe-worthy...and now Jones has a game like this one. The Sharks came to play, certainly.....but Pittsburgh did everything but win the Cup tonight. Neither goalie can control rebounds very well. Both Jones and Murray fumbled pucks they should have caught. Nerves? |
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Post by blny on Jun 10, 2016 9:46:07 GMT -5
This final is extremely frustrating...All this time off between games is ridiculous. The Stanley cup finals started May 30th which was 4 or 5 days after the conference finals ended(may 26). This thing should be game 7 tomorrow night. Enough of three days between each game crap. Game 1 (mon) Game 2 (wed) Game 3 (Sat) Game 4 (Mon) Game 5 (thurs) Game 6 (Sun) Game 7 (Wed) They've been giving an extra travel day between cities, which isn't all that uncommon. The fact game 6 is on a Sunday must mean there's an event at "the Tank" Saturday - when the game would have normally been scheduled. |
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 10, 2016 9:59:38 GMT -5
I've suggested it before, but I really think they should start the season in September. This finishing in mid-June is ridiculous, and probably drops their watching audience by half.
Start Labour Day weekend. The marketing potential around the "end of summer" long weekend and the beginning of Fall/Winter is endless.
Finish mid-May.
Hold the draft late May, in the 25-30th kind of range.
UFA season starts June 1st.
Everything is more or less wrapped up 2-3 weeks later, everybody takes July off.
Training camps start August.
Makes sense to me.
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Post by jkr on Jun 10, 2016 10:08:02 GMT -5
This final is extremely frustrating...All this time off between games is ridiculous. The Stanley cup finals started May 30th which was 4 or 5 days after the conference finals ended(may 26). This thing should be game 7 tomorrow night. Enough of three days between each game crap. Game 1 (mon) Game 2 (wed) Game 3 (Sat) Game 4 (Mon) Game 5 (thurs) Game 6 (Sun) Game 7 (Wed) They've been giving an extra travel day between cities, which isn't all that uncommon. The fact game 6 is on a Sunday must mean there's an event at "the Tank" Saturday - when the game would have normally been scheduled. I watched a bit of the Calder Cup. After taking a 3-0 lead Lake Erie has to wait 4 days to play again & that's in the same city. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 10, 2016 10:15:03 GMT -5
This final is extremely frustrating...All this time off between games is ridiculous. The Stanley cup finals started May 30th which was 4 or 5 days after the conference finals ended(may 26). This thing should be game 7 tomorrow night. Enough of three days between each game crap. Game 1 (mon) Game 2 (wed) Game 3 (Sat) Game 4 (Mon) Game 5 (thurs) Game 6 (Sun) Game 7 (Wed) They've been giving an extra travel day between cities, which isn't all that uncommon. The fact game 6 is on a Sunday must mean there's an event at "the Tank" Saturday - when the game would have normally been scheduled. I don't see the need for this extra travel day between games. They already have the one day off between them. I mean if you can play 3 games in 4 nights in the regular season, you can do 1 game every second day. Plus it's the same amount of travel for each team. If it's scheduling conflict then grow some balls. You've played around 50 games this year, you should be the primary tenant and be able to dictate terms. If MSG and Staples center can play basketball and hockey in one day then so can San Jose and Pittsburgh. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 10, 2016 12:42:25 GMT -5
Yeah, the time between games is annoying.
Did watch the game last night (surprise, surprise), mainly because one of the kids who is a Pens fan was over so I was all over cheering for San Jose to bug her. I have been hoping for a bit now that San Jose can be a first time winner, as that has a nice ring to it in this day and age and given their playoff bust record up to this point. I am also happy every SJ win to just hear the collective moaning of the HNIC crew who are so pro-Pens biased in their broadcasts. That same crew annoys me just as much when they do Habs games as they cheer for anyone but the Habs, and not too subtly either. I guess if I get sick of listening to Hughson and company on Sunday (if I remember to tune in), there is always the Punjabi broadcast!! I sure would not know if they were Pens biased or not!!
One heck of a game by Martin Jones. The Pens have been the best team by a decent margin this whole series, but the Sharks just don't away. Time to chop up some Penguin chum for the Shark Tank on Sunday!!
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 10, 2016 13:39:32 GMT -5
I've suggested it before, but I really think they should start the season in September. This finishing in mid-June is ridiculous, and probably drops their watching audience by half. Start Labour Day weekend. The marketing potential around the "end of summer" long weekend and the beginning of Fall/Winter is endless. Finish mid-May. Hold the draft late May, in the 25-30th kind of range. UFA season starts June 1st. Everything is more or less wrapped up 2-3 weeks later, everybody takes July off. Training camps start August. Makes sense to me. I agree. Plus there's too much overlap with the NBA playoffs, which are always going to get more attention in the US. I think it's also part of the reason for the time between games. The NHL doesn't want to go head to head with the NBA finals. Starting the season earlier would avoid all that. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 10, 2016 14:14:49 GMT -5
Yeah, the time between games is annoying. Did watch the game last night (surprise, surprise), mainly because one of the kids who is a Pens fan was over so I was all over cheering for San Jose to bug her. I have been hoping for a bit now that San Jose can be a first time winner, as that has a nice ring to it in this day and age and given their playoff bust record up to this point. I am also happy every SJ win to just hear the collective moaning of the HNIC crew who are so pro-Pens biased in their broadcasts. That same crew annoys me just as much when they do Habs games as they cheer for anyone but the Habs, and not too subtly either. I guess if I get sick of listening to Hughson and company on Sunday (if I remember to tune in), there is always the Punjabi broadcast!! I sure would not know if they were Pens biased or not!! One heck of a game by Martin Jones. The Pens have been the best team by a decent margin this whole series, but the Sharks just don't away. Time to chop up some Penguin chum for the Shark Tank on Sunday!! I watched the game on NBC to avoid the CBC bias. Mike Emrick can out call anybody at CBC. |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 10, 2016 14:27:05 GMT -5
I have zero interest in this final....I've watched a few periods over the series and I end up turning the channel to watch baseball. Hockey in June is hard to get into if your team is not playing.
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 10, 2016 14:43:32 GMT -5
Jones outright stole it. Everybody was talking about Murray perhaps being Smythe-worthy...and now Jones has a game like this one. The Sharks came to play, certainly.....but Pittsburgh did everything but win the Cup tonight. Neither goalie can control rebounds very well. Both Jones and Murray fumbled pucks they should have caught. Nerves? Likely…but last night reminded me of the Halak Habs taking out the Caps. The Pens were all over them….and the shots were indicative of the play, IMO. 46-21 Pens. Game should've been all but over after the second period. |
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Post by franko on Jun 10, 2016 15:12:03 GMT -5
it's still going on?
I say consecutive nights, day or two for travel, consecutive nights, day for travel.
for every round! they're tired? good -- more mistakes made, more entertaining.
on another matter, is MT still coach?
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Post by Skilly on Jun 10, 2016 15:47:29 GMT -5
gotta say . . . think this is the first year EVER since 1964 (young but would still watch with my father) that I have not watched even one playoff game in full. and Mr Bettman: I haven't really missed it. have fun with the next generation. I haven't watched any in full .... Closest I came was in the first round. I haven't missed it, and not sure I'd even watch a game completely even if the Habs were playing. The officiating has completely turned me ... I'm convinced the refs/NHL play favourites |
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Post by blny on Jun 10, 2016 16:17:23 GMT -5
gotta say . . . think this is the first year EVER since 1964 (young but would still watch with my father) that I have not watched even one playoff game in full. and Mr Bettman: I haven't really missed it. have fun with the next generation. I haven't watched any in full .... Closest I came was in the first round. I haven't missed it, and not sure I'd even watch a game completely even if the Habs were playing. The officiating has completely turned me ... I'm convinced the refs/NHL play favourites Up to this point in the finals, I'd say the reffing has been about as good as I can remember for the playoffs. IMO, having watched a lot more than I expected to, the refs weren't putting their whistles away in the earlier rounds. They've been far more inclined to pocket whistles in the finals. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 10, 2016 16:35:35 GMT -5
I haven't watched any in full .... Closest I came was in the first round. I haven't missed it, and not sure I'd even watch a game completely even if the Habs were playing. The officiating has completely turned me ... I'm convinced the refs/NHL play favourites Up to this point in the finals, I'd say the reffing has been about as good as I can remember for the playoffs. IMO, having watched a lot more than I expected to, the refs weren't putting their whistles away in the earlier rounds. They've been far more inclined to pocket whistles in the finals. In the Tampa-Pitts series, when Tampa had a 3-2 edge, the NHL assigned Dan O'Hallaran's crew to do game 6. Up to that point in the playoffs Tampa was 0-3 when O'Hallaran's crew was the ref, Pitts was 4-0. Surprise surprise, Pitts won the game. So after, game 6 that meant that Tampa was 11-5. 0-4 when O'Hallaran's crew was reffing and 11-1 when anyone else reffed. Coincidence? There's no doubt these yahoos were assigned to prolong the series to give the Golden Boy a game 7 shot. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 10, 2016 21:07:40 GMT -5
Up to this point in the finals, I'd say the reffing has been about as good as I can remember for the playoffs. IMO, having watched a lot more than I expected to, the refs weren't putting their whistles away in the earlier rounds. They've been far more inclined to pocket whistles in the finals. In the Tampa-Pitts series, when Tampa had a 3-2 edge, the NHL assigned Dan O'Hallaran's crew to do game 6. Up to that point in the playoffs Tampa was 0-3 when O'Hallaran's crew was the ref, Pitts was 4-0. Surprise surprise, Pitts won the game. So after, game 6 that meant that Tampa was 11-5. 0-4 when O'Hallaran's crew was reffing and 11-1 when anyone else reffed. Coincidence? There's no doubt these yahoos were assigned to prolong the series to give the Golden Boy a game 7 shot. This is interesting stuff ... Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 11, 2016 0:30:26 GMT -5
Up to this point in the finals, I'd say the reffing has been about as good as I can remember for the playoffs. IMO, having watched a lot more than I expected to, the refs weren't putting their whistles away in the earlier rounds. They've been far more inclined to pocket whistles in the finals. In the Tampa-Pitts series, when Tampa had a 3-2 edge, the NHL assigned Dan O'Hallaran's crew to do game 6. Up to that point in the playoffs Tampa was 0-3 when O'Hallaran's crew was the ref, Pitts was 4-0. Surprise surprise, Pitts won the game. So after, game 6 that meant that Tampa was 11-5. 0-4 when O'Hallaran's crew was reffing and 11-1 when anyone else reffed. Coincidence? There's no doubt these yahoos were assigned to prolong the series to give the Golden Boy a game 7 shot. Very Twilight Zonish. I'd be investigating all those non O'Hallaran crews. 11-1 when a crew other than O'Hallaran's reffed? That seems beyond the realm of probability. |
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Post by CentreHice on Jun 11, 2016 6:39:00 GMT -5
Refs don't have their own crew, per se. He must be the common denominator.
He's been paired in these playoffs with Gord Dwyer, Dan O'Rourke, Kevin Pollack.
The Pens took out the Rangers in 5, and O'Halloran didn't ref any of those Ws.
He reffed one game in the Pens-Washington series.
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There ARE two ref tandems for the Finals, it appears..
The Pens are 1-2 with O'Halloran/O'Rourke officiating, whereas they're 2-0 with McAuley/Sutherland.
Game 1. 3-2 Pens. O"Halloran/O'Rourke
Game 2. 2-1 OT Pens. McAuley/Sutherland
Game 3. 3-2 OT Sharks. O'Halloran/O'Rourke
Game 4: 3-1 Pens. McAuley/Sutherland.
Game 5: 4-2 Sharks. O'Halloran/O'Rourke
Game 6:
Game 7:
They might be happier to see McAuley and Sutherland...who also reffed their Game 7 W vs. Tampa Bay.
McAuley reffed their series clincher against the Rangers, too....
Has Tampa complained about O'Halloran? I don't see the conspiracy…but I used to certainly find lots to complain about when it pertained to the Leafs….ha!
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